--- Log opened Tue Aug 14 00:00:52 2012
20120814 00:03:06< celticminstrel> It seems the editor crashes if it can't find the icon image for a group button. Does it even support custom group icons?
20120814 00:03:44< Espreon> It does.
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20120814 00:04:15< celticminstrel> Oh I see, it needs two more variants.
20120814 00:10:39< celticminstrel> Okay, so the terrains aren't being added to the group for some reason...
20120814 00:14:37< celticminstrel> Aha. [terrain] -> [terrain_type]
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20120814 00:16:29< celticminstrel> (On a random note, it's a little disconcerting that Cmd-Q bypasses any "are you sure you want to quit, here save first" messages.
20120814 00:16:31< celticminstrel> )
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20120814 00:45:26< shadowm> celticminstrel: 1.6: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/tags/1.6/ (which is a broken version) , 1.6.5+svn: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/branches/1.6/
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20120814 00:46:08< celticminstrel> Not sure if I still need it, but thanks.
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20120814 02:03:53< celticminstrel> The whole one-sided attacking … doesn't work as well as I'd hoped.
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20120814 09:18:34< Necrosporus> Choise must be made (heir to the throne)
20120814 09:18:41< Necrosporus> Which choise would be better?
20120814 09:19:01< Espreon> What choice?
20120814 09:22:08< Espreon> Necrosporus: Ah, if you go north, you'll be able to get a flaming sword the next scenario; go south, you can get some good armor during the next scenario.
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20120814 09:23:08< Necrosporus> Espreon, and you also may go east and get a leutenant
20120814 09:23:16< Necrosporus> And storm trident
20120814 09:23:19< Necrosporus> right?
20120814 09:23:32< Necrosporus> But which choice is better?
20120814 09:24:07< Espreon> It appears so.
20120814 09:24:09< zookeeper> how would you quantify that anyway?
20120814 09:24:28< Espreon> Necrosporus: Pick the path with the goodies you want.
20120814 09:24:31< zookeeper> go for whichever you haven't seen yet. if you've seen all of them, take the one you think is most fun :p
20120814 09:24:31< Necrosporus> By making next missions easier
20120814 09:24:55< zookeeper> that naturally depends on your playstyle, recalls, gold, etc
20120814 09:25:17< Necrosporus> I have about 30 lvl3 units and about 20 lvl2's
20120814 09:25:20< Necrosporus> A lot of gold
20120814 09:26:07< Necrosporus> All loyal units except Arch Mage and some merman hunters are already max level
20120814 09:26:59< zookeeper> well, no one knows which path is the most optimal in such a case
20120814 09:27:49< zookeeper> going south, killing all the liches and giving li'sar the thing you get is always a decent choice
20120814 09:28:41< Necrosporus> Why there was no option to kill Li'sar?
20120814 09:33:57< zookeeper> there's no why
20120814 09:38:59< Necrosporus> Yeah
20120814 09:39:01< Necrosporus> Why?
20120814 09:39:16 * zookeeper snarls
20120814 09:39:24< Necrosporus> There also was other opportunity on the great river
20120814 09:39:41< Necrosporus> I have tried to kill her there and it won't kill her anyway
20120814 09:40:21< Necrosporus> she was said to be just driven away
20120814 09:44:14< fendrin> Necrosporus: She still plays a major part later on.
20120814 09:44:56< fendrin> Necrosporus: Coding the opportunity to kill her would create the need to fork the campaign story line from that point on.
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20120814 09:47:37< Necrosporus> Yeah
20120814 09:47:56< Necrosporus> But there are already some forks
20120814 09:48:35< Necrosporus> Also most option could be same
20120814 09:48:49< Necrosporus> I.e. replace her with a general on river
20120814 09:49:03< Necrosporus> And just remove from the cave
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20120814 09:57:25< Necrosporus> Also there would be an option to enslave her or something
20120814 09:57:55< zookeeper> and likewise you could choose which direction you want to go rather than following a set path of scenarios
20120814 09:58:46< zookeeper> there's no reason why none of that exists. it just doesn't.
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20120814 13:46:32< igorko> Espreon: ping
20120814 13:46:34< igorko> hi all
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20120814 17:15:48< celticminstrel> Huh. Just noticed the discussion with Necrosporus from last night. :/
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20120814 17:27:09< Necrosporus> And?
20120814 17:27:12< Necrosporus> celticminstrel, 
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20120814 17:28:09< celticminstrel> Why would you want to kill the major character?
20120814 17:28:22< celticminstrel> ^main
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20120814 17:29:37< lipkab> Why not?
20120814 17:30:08< MrBeast> if it suits the story...
20120814 17:30:20< celticminstrel> Does it?
20120814 17:30:27< celticminstrel> ^But
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20120814 17:40:22< Necrosporus> celticminstrel, well, she attacked my forces
20120814 17:40:30< celticminstrel> So?
20120814 17:40:30< Necrosporus> Two times
20120814 17:40:58< celticminstrel> So?
20120814 17:41:04< Necrosporus> And first time, ok, I spared her life
20120814 17:41:23< celticminstrel> When was the second time? I can't remember.
20120814 17:41:24< Necrosporus> But the second time, after she sent me to undead walley, why won't I kill her?
20120814 17:41:35< Necrosporus> On the Great River
20120814 17:41:40< celticminstrel> Oh, right.
20120814 17:42:02< Necrosporus> She was trying to prevent me from crossing it
20120814 17:42:18< lipkab> Yeah. And she also prevents Konrad from becoming the king.
20120814 17:42:29< celticminstrel> Not true. :P
20120814 17:42:41< lipkab> Yes it is.
20120814 17:42:52< celticminstrel> I wonder if there's an easter egg for any crazy person who manages to kill her at the ford.
20120814 17:43:07< celticminstrel> Not really, because he becomes king anyway. :P
20120814 17:43:49< lipkab> No he doesn't. He becomes a nobleman who happens to marry the queen. But he's not crowned.
20120814 17:44:11< lipkab> At least HttT doesn't mention that.
20120814 17:44:43< celticminstrel> I'm pretty sure he's referred to as a king somewhere… might be The South Guard though… unless there was another king named Konrad (which isn't impossible).
20120814 17:45:12< Necrosporus> celticminstrel, I managed to kill her at ford, but dialogue said she just driven away
20120814 17:45:40< celticminstrel> XD
20120814 17:45:56< Necrosporus> not without debug mode, though
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20120814 17:46:29< Necrosporus> celticminstrel, he's referred as king in some campaigns
20120814 17:46:40< Necrosporus> but that was addons however
20120814 17:46:52< Necrosporus> With Li'sar as Queen
20120814 17:46:59< Necrosporus> AFAIR
20120814 17:49:24< celticminstrel> lipkab = lipk?
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20120814 17:51:20< lipk> No.
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20120814 17:51:33< lipkab> Of course not.
20120814 17:51:34< celticminstrel> Is that a "yes"? :P
20120814 17:51:57< lipkab> I'll let you guess :P
20120814 17:52:10< celticminstrel> :(
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20120814 17:53:02< celticminstrel> Whoops.
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20120814 17:55:25< lipkab> celticminstrel: Why do you care, anyways? :P
20120814 17:55:57< celticminstrel> This: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=535270#p535270
20120814 17:56:21< lipkab> What about that?
20120814 17:57:07< celticminstrel> Wondering if it was an adaptation of the original poster's work.
20120814 17:58:22< lipkab> Of course it was. lipk took the images and wrote some nice cfg-s for them.
20120814 17:59:51< lipkab> celticminstrel: "My version" refers to his cfg-s in contrary to Celtic_Minstrel's cfg.
20120814 18:00:16< lipkab> By the way, are you identical to Celtic_Minstrel on the forums? :P
20120814 18:00:20< celticminstrel> Yeah.
20120814 18:00:25< celticminstrel> :P
20120814 18:00:55< lipkab> What a coincidence. The world is small.
20120814 18:01:18< celticminstrel> Heh.
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