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20120816 01:32:57< celticminstrel> Why do AMLAs use a different tag in [modifications] than in [unit_type] (assuming the wiki is correct)? This means you can't (for example) put {AMLA_DEFAULT} in the [modifications] tag to create a unit that has already gotten a hitpoints bonus.
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20120816 05:22:56< celticminstrel> Trying to find somewhere that describes all the gold mechanics in some detail, including bonus and carryover and anything else that might be relevant to balancing gold in campaigns.
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20120816 18:26:57< igorko> hi
20120816 18:27:00< igorko> Espreon: ping
20120816 18:28:11< Espreon> igorko: pong
20120816 18:29:06< igorko> I'm still confused. Why singular has no $friends
20120816 18:29:07< igorko> msgid "Friendly unit sighted"
20120816 18:29:07< igorko> msgid_plural "$friends friendly units sighted"
20120816 18:29:16< igorko> in original string
20120816 18:29:37< Espreon> Because English doesn't need it.
20120816 18:29:57< igorko> so I should ignore this line at all?
20120816 18:30:31< igorko> and add $friends to msgstr[0]- $friends[2]
20120816 18:30:43< igorko> msgstr[0]- msgstr[2]
20120816 18:30:45< Espreon> Yes, have it in each.
20120816 18:31:03< igorko> ok
20120816 18:31:08< Espreon> As I said the other day, [0] is for all numbers ending in 1... except 11.
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20120816 18:55:36< igorko> Espreon: yes, but it's useless to put msgid in pot...
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20120816 18:56:56< Espreon> igorko: Why would you put an additional msgid in there?
20120816 18:57:27< igorko> there are msgid and msgid_plural
20120816 18:57:45< igorko> but, never mind. It doeasn't matter
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20120816 19:08:59< Espreon> igorko: Yeah, you don't need more msgids.
20120816 19:09:05< Espreon> You're dealing with msgstrs.
20120816 19:09:27< igorko> i just read po in texteditor ;)
20120816 19:09:36< Espreon> Ah, I see.
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20120816 20:32:58< igorko> could someone rephrase this a little? "I am done for, but we have yet to lose this battle!"
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20120816 20:43:35< Espreon> igorko: "I am doomed, but we have not lost this battle yet!"
20120816 20:49:00< Espreon> igorko: Eh, make it obvious that the guy's going to die like... a second later, though.
20120816 20:49:06< Espreon> ... if that is the case.
20120816 20:49:51< igorko> yet to lose == not lost That's the main problen for non english ;)
20120816 20:50:00< igorko> problem*
20120816 20:50:03< igorko> thanks
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20120816 21:18:18< celticminstrel> Um, "to lose" ≠ "not lost"...
20120816 21:18:30< celticminstrel> Oh wait. "yet to lose". Yes.
20120816 21:18:44< celticminstrel> Just ignore that.
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20120816 22:09:30< Espreon> celticminstrel: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=535424#p535424 ... How dare you imply that it's all right to not use proper dashes!®
20120816 22:30:58< celticminstrel> XD
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20120816 22:43:56< Forty-3> making a camplaign
20120816 22:44:51< Forty-3> when testing it out, I kep getting an error "unknown scenario: spiders"
20120816 22:45:03< Forty-3> even when I change the id
20120816 22:45:53< Forty-3> err
20120816 22:46:05< Forty-3> the id changes
20120816 22:46:07< Forty-3> now
20120816 22:46:11< Espreon> Clear your cache, try again, and give me the exact error.
20120816 22:46:16< Forty-3> however, I'm still getting the same error
20120816 22:47:08< celticminstrel> Don't you need to restart Wesnoth to see changes?
20120816 22:47:20< Forty-3> yes
20120816 22:47:21< Forty-3> and I do
20120816 22:47:47< Forty-3> 1 sec for files
20120816 22:48:46< Forty-3> https://sites.google.com/site/seanga2/dropbox/Plummets_of_Magi.tar.bz2?attredirects=0&d=1
20120816 22:51:14< Forty-3> any ideas?
20120816 22:55:13< Espreon> Forty-3: Yes, but you should clear your cache or hit F5 before trying again so we can get a better error message.
20120816 22:55:26< Forty-3> ok
20120816 22:56:05< Forty-3> "20120816 16:55:47 error general: Unknown scenario: 'sp'"
20120816 22:56:16< Forty-3> that's after clearing out the cache
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20120816 23:14:30< Espreon> Forty-3: Hmmm, I guess you made an epic screw-up then.
20120816 23:14:37< Espreon> All right, I'll take a look.
20120816 23:14:43< Forty-3> yay!
20120816 23:15:33< Espreon> Forty-3: You don't have a scenario with the id "sp"
20120816 23:15:46< Forty-3> oops
20120816 23:15:52< Forty-3> I changed the wrong name
20120816 23:16:28< Forty-3> same error
20120816 23:16:31< Forty-3> even when fixed
20120816 23:16:34< Forty-3> try it
20120816 23:16:51< Espreon> Hoo boy.
20120816 23:17:26< Forty-3> ..
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20120816 23:20:43< Espreon> Forty-3: You always load your scenarios last.
20120816 23:21:02< Forty-3> ok
20120816 23:21:06< Espreon> ... not your units after your scenarios.
20120816 23:21:36< Forty-3> same thing
20120816 23:22:09< Espreon> Forty-3: Also, it's [scenario]; not [Scenario]
20120816 23:22:11< celticminstrel> What's this about hitting F5?
20120816 23:22:54< Forty-3> thanks
20120816 23:22:54< Espreon> celticminstrel: On the titlescreen, hitting F5 reloads everything.
20120816 23:22:57< Forty-3> works now
20120816 23:23:14< celticminstrel> !
20120816 23:23:15< shadowm> celticminstrel: If you press F5 in the titlescreen the WML cache is invalidated and reloaded, thus allowing add-on WML that has changed on disk while Wesnoth was running to take effect.
20120816 23:23:20< celticminstrel> Is that documented somewhere?
20120816 23:23:27< shadowm> Probably not.
20120816 23:23:35< celticminstrel> I wish I'd known that earlier...
20120816 23:23:51< shadowm> I think it's found in the Hotkeys dialog, along with a bunch of other undocumented options that don't necessarily have a default hotkey.
20120816 23:24:18< celticminstrel> Incidentally, I'm loading units after scenarios with no problems.
20120816 23:24:31< shadowm> Okay, no, the Reload WML hotkey does not exist.
20120816 23:24:52< celticminstrel> Meaning it works but isn't in the preferences?
20120816 23:25:00< shadowm> Yes.
20120816 23:25:24< shadowm> It also works in the editor.
20120816 23:27:26< celticminstrel> I've always been restarting Wesnoth when stuff changed.
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