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20120818 00:00:09< Espreon> Forty-3: Screenshot please.
20120818 00:01:01< Forty-3> http://img.removedfromgame.com/imgs/incomplete-wiki.png
20120818 00:01:21< Forty-3> oh, wait
20120818 00:01:30< Espreon> Scroll down some more...
20120818 00:01:33< Forty-3> it's all the way at the bottom of the page
20120818 00:01:41< Forty-3> why?
20120818 00:01:57< Espreon> Because that's the way it is.
20120818 00:02:10< Espreon> Yes, it sucks, but we're too lazy to make it better.
20120818 00:02:16< Forty-3> :P
20120818 00:02:21< Forty-3> it's confusing
20120818 00:02:32< Forty-3> maybe you should add a note to help people out
20120818 00:03:01< Forty-3> like "Scroll down for the content; we're too lazy to fix it."
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20120818 00:31:22< celticminstrel> That's one of the worse pages on there. :/
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20120818 00:33:46< Forty-3> :|
20120818 00:34:18< celticminstrel> You could always fix it yourself. :P
20120818 00:35:09< Forty-3> I don't have a wiki account, and "we're too lazy to fix it."
20120818 00:35:38< celticminstrel> You can create a wiki account, can't you? I would, but lazy. :P
20120818 00:35:56< Forty-3> hm
20120818 00:38:53< Forty-3> so are there any plans to make a MP campaign out of delfidor's memoirs?
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20120818 00:50:14< celticminstrel> Uh… why would there be?
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20120818 01:02:03< celticminstrel> Is the server icon for an add-on automatically scaled down to something like 72x72?
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20120818 01:13:24< celticminstrel> And what's the proper way to reference a mainline campaign image in the pbl icon?
20120818 01:14:12< celticminstrel> (Also there should be a way to preview the icon before uploading. :/ )
20120818 01:15:46< shadowm> The mainline campaigns' availability isn't guaranteed.
20120818 01:15:57< shadowm> That said, data/campaigns/Epic_Fail/images/whatever.png
20120818 01:16:39< celticminstrel> Under what circumstances might mainline campaigns be missing?
20120818 01:16:47< shadowm> When they are not installed.
20120818 01:16:54< celticminstrel> And why would they not be installed?
20120818 01:17:14< shadowm> The Debian and Ubuntu packages distribute them in separate optional packages along with the music, for instance.
20120818 01:17:20< celticminstrel> Ah.
20120818 01:17:44< shadowm> That's intended for people who play add-ons and/or MP exclusively.
20120818 01:18:05< shadowm> If I were the release manager I'd certainly choose to do the same for the official distribution.
20120818 01:18:40< celticminstrel> Seems silly to me, but whatever.
20120818 01:19:14< shadowm> It's not silly if you are on crappy quota-controlled 3.5G mobile broadband.
20120818 01:19:30< celticminstrel> I suppose.
20120818 01:20:41< shadowm> Many people (including me) also play without music most of the time, so music is wasted megabytes for them.
20120818 01:21:09< shadowm> And I think I haven't played mainline campaigns in years.
20120818 01:22:10< celticminstrel> Heh.
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20120818 03:29:19< lentex> hi
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20120818 13:31:11< Necrosporus> I do not see addon's maps in mp lobby create game dialog
20120818 14:05:40< zookeeper> Necrosporus, how do you know there should be some?
20120818 14:06:33< Necrosporus> zookeeper, because there are some now with same set of addons
20120818 14:06:48< Necrosporus> I did some black magic with reinstalling addons
20120818 14:09:01< zookeeper> mmkay
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20120818 14:51:58< Guest53976> Hello
20120818 14:52:12< Guest53976> Anyone there? 
20120818 14:53:07< Guest53976> I need to know something
20120818 14:53:36< Espreon> What do you need to know?
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20120818 14:57:10< Zachary923> Hello
20120818 14:57:28< Espreon> Hello.
20120818 14:57:31< Zachary923> I need to know what wesnoth mechanical is.
20120818 14:57:38< Zachary923> I haven't seen any
20120818 14:57:46< Espreon> Ummm... what?
20120818 14:57:52< Zachary923> Sounds cool though
20120818 14:58:05< Zachary923> In the manual go to units
20120818 14:58:15< Zachary923> then look at races or abilities
20120818 14:58:19< Zachary923> I saw mechanical
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20120818 15:00:04< Zachary923> Is it in the game yet?
20120818 15:00:34< Zachary923> In a picture on the iphone wesnoth loading screen I saw a cyborg
20120818 15:01:18< zookeeper> mechanical is merely used for ships and such
20120818 15:01:51< Zachary923> Ok
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20120818 15:02:00< Zachary923> Which campaign has ships?
20120818 15:02:44< Zachary923> That shoot
20120818 15:02:53< zookeeper> son of the black eye has two scenarios which feature ships... i don't recall any others in mainline actually
20120818 15:03:15< Zachary923> Ill be sure to try it out
20120818 15:03:30< Zachary923> What's your favorite group?
20120818 15:03:38< zookeeper> they're only ferrying enemy troops around, nothing more involved than that
20120818 15:03:42< zookeeper> group?
20120818 15:04:06< Zachary923> On the units page there was a pirate ship that had 20-1
20120818 15:04:12< Zachary923> Or faction
20120818 15:04:32< Zachary923> Rebels, undead, loyalists, drakes, dwarvesd
20120818 15:04:47< zookeeper> i don't have a favourite really. not even a faction i dislike most, i guess
20120818 15:05:01< Zachary923> You just do campaign?
20120818 15:05:27< zookeeper> well... i haven't really played at all for ages
20120818 15:05:35< Zachary923> They're all pretty awesome
20120818 15:05:44< Zachary923> Ages?
20120818 15:05:53< Zachary923> You mean a few weeks?
20120818 15:05:55< zookeeper> for ages == for a long time
20120818 15:06:00< zookeeper> no, more like few years
20120818 15:06:02< Zachary923> Oh
20120818 15:06:16< Zachary923> Which campaign was the funnest?
20120818 15:06:27< Zachary923> Did you beat the game?
20120818 15:06:39< zookeeper> rise of wesnoth would be perhaps my favourite campaign
20120818 15:06:40< Zachary923> It must of been smaller game back then
20120818 15:07:06< zookeeper> i've beaten most of the campaigns, yes. there's a few i haven't ever really bothered to play much
20120818 15:07:06< Zachary923> I only beat tale of two brothers and heir to the throne
20120818 15:07:33< Zachary923> Took months
20120818 15:08:04< zookeeper> and no, it wasn't that much smaller back then. the latest versions have a few new campaigns, but other than that it's still the same game except for graphical and other upgrades.
20120818 15:08:18< Zachary923> On iphone version Ooze awakening was my favorite
20120818 15:08:35< Zachary923> When was wesnoth first started?
20120818 15:08:35< zookeeper> it was a pretty unique campaign, yes :p
20120818 15:08:54< zookeeper> about 2003
20120818 15:09:13< zookeeper> do you only have the iphone version?
20120818 15:09:21< Zachary923> So, they're kind of stopped working on it
20120818 15:09:23< Zachary923> yeah
20120818 15:09:37< Zachary923> I'm trying out Into the Unknown
20120818 15:09:41< Zachary923> Expert Level
20120818 15:09:53< zookeeper> no, it's still very much being worked on. i'd really suggest you get the computer version too, since the iphone version is quite a bit older and has less campaigns and all that.
20120818 15:09:58< Zachary923> I'm better at wesnoth than I thought
20120818 15:10:02< Zachary923> I have both
20120818 15:10:13< zookeeper> okay
20120818 15:10:42< Zachary923> Is everyone else afk?
20120818 15:11:09< zookeeper> i bet most of them are. i also bet there's _someone_ watching.
20120818 15:11:24< Zachary923> Creepy...
20120818 15:11:54< Zachary923> Do you know what feeding is?
20120818 15:12:01< Zachary923> For lvl 2 goul
20120818 15:12:05< Zachary923> ghoul
20120818 15:12:51< zookeeper> it gives a permanent +1 max hp whenever you kill a living unit with it
20120818 15:13:00< Zachary923> Cool
20120818 15:13:23< Zachary923> Can you lvl a lich into a lvl 4 or is that only campaign?
20120818 15:13:57< zookeeper> only in campaigns/scenarios which specifically allow that
20120818 15:14:14< Zachary923> Like the into the unknown
20120818 15:14:26< Zachary923> I was an elf and I barely beat him
20120818 15:14:37< Zachary923> Then he allies with me for some reason...
20120818 15:14:47< zookeeper> well i wouldn't know which campaign that is
20120818 15:14:54< Zachary923> iphone only
20120818 15:15:01< Zachary923> and android
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20120818 15:15:11< Zachary923> Hello lip
20120818 15:15:40< lipkab> Hi zac.
20120818 15:16:05< Zachary923> Which faction or group of wesnoth is your favorite?
20120818 15:16:25< Zachary923> Rebels, undead, dwarves, drakes, orcs
20120818 15:16:30< lipkab> The Crusaders of the Holy Cookie.
20120818 15:16:47< Zachary923> I ate the holy cookie
20120818 15:16:53< Zachary923> So thats not possible
20120818 15:17:02< lipkab> But not its crusaders.
20120818 15:17:12< Zachary923> Which is that?
20120818 15:17:19< Zachary923> Which races?
20120818 15:17:32< lipkab> It's not yet published...
20120818 15:17:33< Zachary923> The ugly beast race?
20120818 15:17:53< lipkab> I'm going to put it on the add-ons server when it's time.
20120818 15:18:21< Zachary923> celestials
20120818 15:18:35< Zachary923> I found something on them
20120818 15:18:50< Zachary923> On iphone version theres adventure into the unknown campaign
20120818 15:19:01< Zachary923> You fight off demons
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20120818 15:19:28< lipkab> ...and in the end, you kill Shadow Master himself?
20120818 15:19:46< Zachary923> You do?
20120818 15:19:52< Zachary923> Or dude of darkness?
20120818 15:19:57< lipkab> You don't?
20120818 15:19:59< lipkab> I did.
20120818 15:20:05< Zachary923> And then theres lady of light
20120818 15:20:16< Zachary923> I bet shes bad *** and hot
20120818 15:20:24< Zachary923> What she got?
20120818 15:20:32< lipkab> Who?
20120818 15:20:49< Zachary923> 20-20 arcane blade pierce impact cold fire?
20120818 15:20:51< lipkab> Ah, Elynia.
20120818 15:20:56< Zachary923> All in one move
20120818 15:21:09< lipkab> No, she's got a nice staff.
20120818 15:21:11< Zachary923> And thats for her melee and ranged
20120818 15:21:25< Zachary923> THat does 100-1?
20120818 15:21:41< Zachary923> Or 20-20?
20120818 15:21:48< Zachary923> Or does she suck
20120818 15:22:03< lipkab> I'm sorry to disappoint you, but she's merely better than a level 3 mage.
20120818 15:22:24< lipkab> *barely
20120818 15:22:36< Zachary923> Is she the elvish autistic sorceress?
20120818 15:23:05< lipkab> Autistic? She looked kinda sociable for me.
20120818 15:23:23< Zachary923> Or Aitustic
20120818 15:23:26< Zachary923> COld
20120818 15:23:29< Zachary923> Attack
20120818 15:23:39< Zachary923> Zephr Ray or something
20120818 15:23:52< lipkab> No, she's got an arcane attack iirc.
20120818 15:24:07< Zachary923> tHe lady of light?
20120818 15:24:15< lipkab> Yes.
20120818 15:24:28< Zachary923> I was talking about some elf before
20120818 15:24:36< Zachary923> I didnt know what you were talking about
20120818 15:24:39< Zachary923> whatever
20120818 15:24:44< Zachary923> What does she have
20120818 15:24:57< Zachary923> Is the darkness god better than the lvl  lich?
20120818 15:25:02< Zachary923> lvl 4
20120818 15:25:15< lipkab> Of course. He's level 6.
20120818 15:25:24< Zachary923> Wtf?
20120818 15:25:33< Zachary923> What age is that in?
20120818 15:25:35< lipkab> ...and he can ban you from the forums!!!
20120818 15:25:41< Zachary923> AHHH
20120818 15:26:10< Zachary923> I don't even go on the forums! AHHH
20120818 15:26:42< lipkab> (Maybe it's better for everyone)
20120818 15:27:02< Zachary923> Lol
20120818 15:27:10< Zachary923> What age is that campaign in?
20120818 15:27:26< Zachary923> I mean era
20120818 15:27:36< lipkab> Heh?
20120818 15:27:39< Zachary923> Theres like 50 of them in the unit page
20120818 15:27:51< Zachary923> Which era is that campagin in?
20120818 15:28:17< lipkab> It's set in the far future...
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20120818 15:28:30< lipkab> ...not sure what you mean by "era" here.
20120818 15:28:43< Zachary923> Like age of heros
20120818 15:28:47< Zachary923> or default
20120818 15:28:50< lipkab> Ah.
20120818 15:28:57< Zachary923> Also
20120818 15:29:04< lipkab> Those are independent things.
20120818 15:29:09< Zachary923> Have you ever heard of the celestials?
20120818 15:29:22< lipkab> A campaign is not necessarily affiliated with any era.
20120818 15:29:29< Zachary923> wiki.wesnoth.org/celestials
20120818 15:29:51< lipkab> No.
20120818 15:29:52< Zachary923> Well its in a different era
20120818 15:30:08< Zachary923> Elvish hunters are in a different era than dfault
20120818 15:30:22< Zachary923> I looked at dino ero an dfound them though
20120818 15:30:38< lipkab> Again, eras are different entities.
20120818 15:31:18< lipkab> Campaign units aren't necessarily present in any eras.
20120818 15:31:24< Zachary923> Like units.wesnoth.org
20120818 15:32:11< lipkab> What's with that?
20120818 15:35:10< Zachary923> with what?
20120818 15:35:23< lipkab> With units.wesnoth.org
20120818 15:35:27< lipkab> *.
20120818 15:35:29< Zachary923> Is the lady of light the mage of light?
20120818 15:35:37< Zachary923> Morning star?
20120818 15:35:38< lipkab> No.
20120818 15:36:05< lipkab> Apparently, she's not present in the database at all...
20120818 15:36:43< lipkab> shadowm: Well, both IftU and AtS are missing from units.wesnoth.org.
20120818 15:39:53< Zachary923> Under the burning suns is before that though
20120818 15:40:03< Zachary923> So I might get something from that
20120818 15:46:33< Zachary923> Theres an 18th century era
20120818 15:46:55< Zachary923> Guns
20120818 15:47:18< Zachary923> I don't thinks its in the game or an addon yet
20120818 15:47:21< Zachary923> Wait
20120818 15:47:30< Zachary923> Your making an addon?
20120818 15:47:35< Zachary923> Crusaders?
20120818 15:48:03< lipkab> Yes, but it's not yet time for the world to see it.
20120818 15:49:19< Zachary923> Cool
20120818 15:49:28< Zachary923> The 18thcenturywarfare era looks cool
20120818 15:50:59< Zachary923> You can actually control ships and put units on them?
20120818 15:56:45< Zachary923> Beyond southern hells also looks cool
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20120818 17:55:53< Gambit> PolarPanda: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20566997/images/wesnoth/wtg.png :D
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20120818 17:57:42< Gambit> Coming Soon?
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20120818 21:16:48< igorko> Ivanovic: ping
20120818 21:17:38< igorko> Espreon: another ping :)
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20120818 23:09:11< Ivanovic> igorko: pings without content tend to go completely unanswered...
20120818 23:09:47< igorko> As i understand you still accept po updates for 1.10 , right
20120818 23:11:56< igorko> Ivanovic: 
20120818 23:15:41< Ivanovic> of course i do
20120818 23:16:10< Ivanovic> the mail i sent was just the warning that the files to be sent in should not be taken from trunk if they were meant for 1.10.x
20120818 23:25:21< igorko> Ok. I have sent updates for 1.10 to Espreon
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