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20120904 01:23:17< AI0867> CIA is a little slow...
20120904 01:24:02< shadowm> Infinitely slow in our case.
20120904 01:24:56< shadowm> The SVN poller is broken at CIA's end, and Gna.org can't send real full notifications because they don't have actual support staff to fix a single line of code.
20120904 01:25:06< shadowm> So yeah, forget about CIA notifications.
20120904 01:40:26< AI0867> poller is broken too?
20120904 01:48:19< shadowm> That's what I said, and that's why my previous ping emails solution stopped working.
20120904 01:49:01< AI0867> some commits made it through 4 hours ago though
20120904 01:49:27< AI0867> it was still functional then?
20120904 01:49:34< shadowm> You mean those three that were part of a ridiculous git-svn test?
20120904 01:49:38< shadowm> Ignore them.
20120904 01:49:50< AI0867> ah, okay
20120904 01:49:52-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 188 bugs, 338 feature requests, 18 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20120904 01:50:10< shadowm> For reference:
20120904 01:50:11< shadowm> 20:49:02 -!- Topic for #cia: If you're missing messages, make sure your scripts are set to cia.vc, NOT  cia.navi.cx (that hostname now no longer works) - apologies for the inconvenience. | current status:  Thinking about long-term maintenance / replacing bits and pieces | SVN poller still crashlooping.
20120904 01:50:28< AI0867> k
20120904 01:50:35< shadowm> If "crashloop" is a thing, then it's probably catastrophic.
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20120904 08:09:44< SpoOkyMagician> is there a way to make a wml direct action for a specific unit to attack? the closes thing I see is [move_unit] but, i doubt that would help.
20120904 08:18:10< SpoOkyMagician> well, i couldn't find any way. but its getting late. ill check/request feature later.
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20120904 14:56:03< fendrin> AI0867: Did you wrote the wmlparser.py ?
20120904 15:00:14< AI0867> no
20120904 15:00:19< AI0867> I just did some work on it
20120904 15:00:45< AI0867> and you shouldn't use it unless wmlparser2.py is unsuitable for some reason
20120904 15:01:13< AI0867> it does no parse WML quite the same way as wesnoth
20120904 15:01:17< AI0867> s/no/not
20120904 15:01:51< fendrin> AI0867: I have copied it and modified to read the data files of another hex field turn game, there I have no need for preprocessing. It works quite nice, wmlparser2 would not have been a better base for that.
20120904 15:02:30< AI0867> k
20120904 15:02:57< AI0867> I'd suggest using JSON instead, like frogatto is doing though
20120904 15:04:45< fendrin> Well, I am through, the script is perfect.
20120904 15:06:07< fendrin> It produces wmldata objects that can be translated into the semantic of Wesnoth by another python script I am working on.
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20120904 16:01:01< Espreon> AI0867: If you look at a tutorial save's information, you'll find "UNTLB" next to "Difficulty:"
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20120904 16:01:45< AI0867> that's not good
20120904 16:01:55< Espreon> Indeed.
20120904 16:02:03< AI0867> for some reason a translated value is saved
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20120904 16:08:34< Ayne> I'm working on that
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20120904 16:15:35< loonycyborg> Ayne: What exactly the assignment on line 183 in src/playcampaign.cpp is supposed to accomplish? 
20120904 16:16:57< loonycyborg> Because currently it foils safebool idiom and assigns truth value of the 'vars' variable :P
20120904 16:19:33< Ayne> loonycyborg: You're right, that's not supposed to happen.. It should be gamestate.carryover_sides_start.child("variables") = vars; of course
20120904 16:19:42< Ayne> or child_or_add or something along those lines
20120904 16:19:45< Ayne> my bad, sorry
20120904 16:24:04< loonycyborg> Ayne: I'll make it use child_or_add, be sure to double check that it does what you need.
20120904 16:27:34< Ayne> loonycyborg: Yes, it should, the old line that I replaced was gamestate.set_variables(vars); and set_variables(vars) does pretty much the same thing
20120904 16:29:40< loonycyborg> kk
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20120904 17:42:40< Necrosporus> I can't connect addon server
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20120904 17:44:33< negusnyul> Apparently the server is down: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/wesnoth.org
20120904 17:44:59< Necrosporus> I hope it's not because of me
20120904 17:45:51< vultraz> says it's up
20120904 17:47:17< negusnyul> hmm now it works
20120904 17:49:32< Necrosporus> addon server still doesn't
20120904 17:51:13< Soliton> load is quite high still.
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20120904 17:56:32< Soliton> should be fine now.
20120904 17:57:34< Necrosporus> Updated my addon on server
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20120904 17:58:28< Necrosporus> Already 12 downloads
20120904 17:58:34< Necrosporus> I wonder who it might be
20120904 18:03:26< Soliton> note that the web interface downloads it on every change.
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20120904 19:21:57< Necrosporus> boucman, so with animation, can you help me?
20120904 19:22:34< Necrosporus> I want unit to be animated after move without blocking other units movement
20120904 19:23:00< Necrosporus> post_movement_anim blocks other units from moving
20120904 19:23:18< Necrosporus> animation within moveto event does it too
20120904 19:23:38< Necrosporus> And this animation is mean to be quite long, so it's not acceptable
20120904 19:23:55< Necrosporus> Standing animation works but is repeated
20120904 19:25:19< boucman> Necrosporus: that can't be done
20120904 19:25:31< Necrosporus> At all?
20120904 19:25:41< Necrosporus> boucman, what about terrain animation?
20120904 19:25:53< boucman> terrain animations are independant from unit animations
20120904 19:26:06< Necrosporus> Yes, but can't I play it where unit moved to?
20120904 19:26:27< boucman> could you describe to me what you are trying to do... in term of visual effect, not of animation engine
20120904 19:26:45< boucman> not sure... I am not very knowledgeable in terrain anims
20120904 19:27:05< boucman> but basically all animations are more or less blocking...
20120904 19:27:07< Necrosporus> I made a new ability, Chameleon, it is meant to hide unit when it doesn't move
20120904 19:27:15< boucman> hmm
20120904 19:27:50< boucman> what do you mean by "doesn't move" it becomes invisible at start of turn if it hasn't moved in the previous turn ?
20120904 19:28:00< Necrosporus> When unit moves from one point to another, it got opaque and moves, than when it ends its movement, it must became transparent slooowly
20120904 19:28:20< Necrosporus> It became invisible on start of side turn
20120904 19:28:22< boucman> why slowly ?
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20120904 19:28:38< Necrosporus> Because real chameleons can change their color only slowly
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20120904 19:28:46< boucman> i'm trying to understand in what way this is different from some sort of invisibility
20120904 19:28:47< Necrosporus> about 1 minute to change 
20120904 19:29:08< Necrosporus> you may want to take a look on addon itself
20120904 19:29:26< boucman> wouldn't that be more annoying than usefull ?
20120904 19:29:38< Necrosporus> Its already implemented, but via standing animation, which got repeated even though I made it very long it doesn't end when it's meant to
20120904 19:30:09< Necrosporus> boucman, I guess, it's easier if you download my addon and see yourself how it works 
20120904 19:30:16< Necrosporus> Age of Tentacles
20120904 19:30:42< boucman> standing anim are more or less the only non-blocking animations (with idle anims)
20120904 19:31:02< Necrosporus> Can I disable idle anim?
20120904 19:31:15< boucman> i am not really convinced that this is a good ability from a gameplay PoV, but that's not the subject
20120904 19:31:25< boucman> for a specific unit, or for the whole game .
20120904 19:31:26< boucman> ?
20120904 19:31:35< Necrosporus> for specific unit
20120904 19:32:10< boucman> provide an empty idle anim with very high priority or provide no idle anim at all 
20120904 19:32:34< Necrosporus> The problem with current implementation is: unit became opaque by itself when standing long enough (while I tried to use empty frame with duration=3600000 it didn't help)
20120904 19:33:12< boucman> hmm
20120904 19:33:48< Necrosporus> I though if I make unit transparent at start of standing anim and keep it its way for a hour it would work, but it didn't
20120904 19:33:53< boucman> that makes sense (with the way the engine work) whenever an idle animation is triggered or you select the unit, you restart the idle anim
20120904 19:34:18< Necrosporus> Seem like it's triggered even when unit doesn't have one
20120904 19:34:26< boucman> it is...
20120904 19:34:39< Necrosporus> I want idle anim not to be triggered at all
20120904 19:34:52< Necrosporus> for units with specific ability
20120904 19:35:45< boucman> Necrosporus: I dont' think what your ask for is really doable, you really need a non-blocking post-mvt animation...
20120904 19:36:17< boucman> let me check the code a bit
20120904 19:36:17< Necrosporus> You can make one for dev version than
20120904 19:36:51< Necrosporus> boucman, do I need to paste it or you would download entire addon?
20120904 19:40:02< boucman> Necrosporus: you can paste it, but i'm a bit short on time right now, and i'm pretty sure it's not doable... pre/post mvt anims might be made non-blocking, but I would need to study it in detail (well, not pre... post maybe)
20120904 19:43:15< Necrosporus> http://pastebin.com/HjuHQcVf
20120904 19:44:49< Necrosporus> It's way it's done now, it does what I want except unit became opaque by itself 
20120904 19:46:26< Necrosporus> Also moves=$this_unit.max_moves generates wml errors, but it doesn't seem to affect gameplay 
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20120904 20:39:39< Soliton> if anything the animation engine should try to prevent such silly abuse, not add features to support it. though i guess post movement animations can be useful, too.
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20120904 21:11:30< Necrosporus> Soliton, what's silly abuse?
20120904 21:11:51< Necrosporus> Animation engine should let developers to make visual effects they want 
20120904 21:16:49< Soliton> within reason, sure.
20120904 21:16:59< Soliton> hiding a unit with animations is not reasonable.
20120904 21:17:41< Soliton> mixing graphics and gameplay that way is just annoying the player.
20120904 21:22:44< boucman> yeah, I agree on that
20120904 21:22:55< boucman> we have the invisible ability if you want to do something like that
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20120904 21:38:14< Necrosporus> boucman, didn't you see the code
20120904 21:38:20< Necrosporus> I set 30% transparency
20120904 21:38:26< Necrosporus> It's just visual effect
20120904 21:38:41< Necrosporus> Hiding is separate ability and it's defined too
20120904 21:39:19< Necrosporus> So I want both invisible ability and appropriate visual effects
20120904 21:39:37< boucman> no hadn't checked yet
20120904 21:39:46< Necrosporus> Soliton, it's not hiding unit with animation, look at code
20120904 21:39:47< boucman> but yes, this makes more sense...
20120904 21:40:15< boucman> Necrosporus: you sure you don't simply want a fast fade-out as a post-mvt ? :)
20120904 21:40:17< Necrosporus> boucman, logically I hide unit when moves=max_moves, that's all
20120904 21:40:33< Necrosporus> boucman, yes, I want slow fade out
20120904 21:40:49< Necrosporus> at least in 3 - 5 seconds
20120904 21:41:16< boucman> Necrosporus: if the effect is "invisible when it has all its MP" maybe you want to have two standing anims, one with full opacity and one transparent
20120904 21:41:47< boucman> I don't think there is a "start of turn" animation event, but that something I could add easily (for trunk, obviously)
20120904 21:41:56< Necrosporus> boucman, also the bug you were pointed out. transparency doesn't work well on units with parts out of their tile
20120904 21:42:14< Necrosporus> boucman, there's event animation
20120904 21:42:26< boucman> Necrosporus: I was on a trip until last sunday, I know the bug is here, but I havn't looked at it yet
20120904 21:42:42< boucman> Necrosporus: what do you mean ?
20120904 21:42:55< Necrosporus> So this bug and animation problem both are related with my addon
20120904 21:43:13< Necrosporus> I mean there are several start of turn events and animation action
20120904 21:43:23< Soliton> Necrosporus: no, thanks. got better things to waste time on.
20120904 21:44:39< boucman> and you can trigger an animation from WML event ? i don't remember implementing that, but if it's there, that would probably be the approche I take (with a short fade out)
20120904 21:44:46< Necrosporus> boucman, what I want is a way for making animations non-blocking, I think you may want to add a key like non-blocking
20120904 21:44:49< shadowm> boucman: [animate_unit]
20120904 21:45:32< shadowm> There's also a few other WML actions that invoke the animation engine for specific purposes, such as [harm_unit] and [heal_unit]
20120904 21:45:56< boucman> Necrosporus: it's very easy to break the game with such a key, which is why it isn't implemented...
20120904 21:45:59< Necrosporus> boucman, I already use it for last breath event (play death animation when unit is dying from plague and make new one on its place)
20120904 21:46:15< boucman> this has been the most asked request on the engine, believe me if it were easy it would be done
20120904 21:47:09< Necrosporus> boucman, other way is to disable idle animation when there are none
20120904 21:47:19< Necrosporus> or to add specific key not to trigger it
20120904 21:47:36< Necrosporus> Than my current code would work as I want
20120904 21:47:43< Necrosporus> take a look, it's short
20120904 21:47:55< boucman> no, that's too specialized to break the engine for...
20120904 21:48:49< boucman> Necrosporus: disabling idle anims when there are none is a big engine change
20120904 21:49:03< boucman> the engine doesn't have any special case for any type of animation
20120904 21:49:08< boucman> and I want to keep it that way
20120904 21:49:43< Necrosporus> boucman, trigger idle animation only when at least one standing animation cycle was played
20120904 21:50:12< Necrosporus> So if I set standing anim to 1 hr, idle animation won't be ever triggered
20120904 21:50:20< boucman> i don't even know the animation being triggered is an idle anim when i'm in the engine
20120904 21:50:48< shadowm> Who in their sane mind would make a non-custcene unit animation lasting more than 2 seconds for a turn based strategy game.
20120904 21:51:02< Necrosporus> boucman, you may take my code and use some debug keys to see which animation is triggered
20120904 21:51:06< shadowm> 1 hour is an absolutely ridiculous amount of time.
20120904 21:51:19< boucman> that's not what I meant
20120904 21:51:42< boucman> the animation engine is totally neutral wrt the type of anim played, the very idea of type of anim doesn't exist within the engine
20120904 21:51:52< Necrosporus> shadowm, I just want unit to slowly fade out after movement in a non-blocking way
20120904 21:52:00< boucman> this is what gives the engine its versatility
20120904 21:52:23< Necrosporus> But there are some checks which animation is to play
20120904 21:52:35< boucman> Necrosporus: and that's not a simple thing to do, it breaks some basic assumptions about the engine, and i'm not even convinced it will look good for the player
20120904 21:53:26< boucman> and it will probably be confusing ui-wise, you should really implement it in the same way invisible works and not bother with long anims that will be confusing
20120904 21:53:47< Necrosporus> boucman, you didn't event take a look at the code
20120904 21:54:03< Necrosporus> http://pastebin.com/HjuHQcVf
20120904 21:54:46< Necrosporus> It's already implemented this way
20120904 21:55:53< boucman> i don't care how it's implemented on your side, you are trying to make the engine do things that is not supposed to work, it's a feature request at best, and i'm not even convinced it's a good one in the long turn...
20120904 21:56:57< Necrosporus> boucman, I think idle animation being triggered where there are no idle animations defined is a bug
20120904 21:57:02< boucman> so either you provide c++ patch to fix it and it might be included or you change stuff on your side, but i'm not going to change that right away, it's complicated to do cleanly, it's not a simple matter of adding one line of code somewere, and i won't butcher my design for a use case I have doubts about...
20120904 21:57:48< boucman> Necrosporus: standing animations are meant to be interuptible at any point, so not really a bug (though it could be done in a cleaner way)
20120904 21:58:01< boucman> it simplifies code tremendously
20120904 21:58:54< Necrosporus> Can I have several standing animations?
20120904 21:59:12< Necrosporus> one is for after movement and others are for triggering after idle anim
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20120904 22:00:01< boucman> you can have multiple standing anims, but you can't choose depending on the previous animation...
20120904 22:01:46< boucman> Necrosporus: it seems to be possible to be a bit smarter on the "not playing idle" side 
20120904 22:02:10< boucman> could you open a bug for that, i'll do it at some point (tell me when you're done and i'll assign to myself)
20120904 22:02:32< Necrosporus> boucman, but I'm not sure it's the problem
20120904 22:03:13< boucman> according to the code, we do reset standing anims if there is no idle anims, and that could be considered a bug
20120904 22:03:46< boucman> Necrosporus: can you compile yourself ?
20120904 22:04:11< Necrosporus> I can
20120904 22:04:19< Necrosporus> I'm using Slackware
20120904 22:04:33< boucman> ok, gimme a sec
20120904 22:05:01< boucman> open unit.cpp and go to line 1869
20120904 22:06:34< Necrosporus> unpacking source takes some time
20120904 22:06:47< boucman> ok, tell me when you're done
20120904 22:07:59< Necrosporus> params.halo_y -= height_adjust; empty line...
20120904 22:08:31< boucman> Necrosporus: what version do you use ?
20120904 22:08:41< Necrosporus> 1.10.4
20120904 22:08:46< boucman> ok
20120904 22:09:26< boucman> gimme a sec to find it
20120904 22:12:37< boucman> ok, go line 1795, what do you havz ?
20120904 22:13:14< Necrosporus> anim = new unit animation
20120904 22:13:42< Necrosporus> anim = new_unit_animation(*animation)
20120904 22:13:59< boucman> ok, so we have a slight offset, but I probably can work around that
20120904 22:14:20< boucman> you should have a line "state_ = state;" a couple of line above
20120904 22:14:28< Necrosporus> yeah
20120904 22:14:34< boucman> move that line below the "if" block
20120904 22:14:48< boucman> ok ?
20120904 22:15:05< Necrosporus> yeah
20120904 22:15:27< boucman> ok, now in that same "if" block you have another "if" block
20120904 22:16:14< boucman> change it so that its "state_ != STATE_STANDING" instead of "sate != STATE_STANDING" (note the underscore, it's the only difference)
20120904 22:16:40< Necrosporus> yeah
20120904 22:16:52< boucman> ok, now recompile and tell me if it changes anything
20120904 22:17:13< boucman> it should keep the old anim when there is no new anim to replace
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20120904 22:25:19< Necrosporus> http://pastebin.com/WpZuj7gV
20120904 22:25:29< Necrosporus> So I should patch with this patch
20120904 22:25:46< boucman> Necrosporus: looks good
20120904 22:26:15< boucman> did you compile and test ? it should prevent the idle anim problem you have, but I want you to make sure...
20120904 22:26:54< Necrosporus> compiling will surely take at least a half of hour
20120904 22:27:13< boucman> ok, i'll be around for at least an hour, go for it :)
20120904 22:29:12< Soliton> looks like savegame compatibility was broken with the last commit, at least for add-on savegames.
20120904 22:32:09< Soliton> might also be because i had the difficulty level breaking revision reverted before though.
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20120904 22:36:51< Necrosporus> Something happened so my computer switched off by itself
20120904 22:36:55< Necrosporus> maybe overheat
20120904 22:39:48< Necrosporus> I hope it won't do it again
20120904 23:07:13< Necrosporus> Espreon, how do I know my addon already wescamped?
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20120904 23:11:31< Necrosporus> boucman, compiled, now installing. What do I need to test except if my bug still present?
20120904 23:12:37< boucman> that's basically it
20120904 23:12:56< Necrosporus> I guess I should check if it introduced other bugs, no?
20120904 23:13:28< boucman> yes, but that's a bit hard to test, so i'll test it before I commit 
20120904 23:14:38< Espreon> Necrosporus: It will be uploaded when I run the magick script.
20120904 23:14:43< Espreon> ... so... sometime tonight.
20120904 23:15:01< Espreon> As for how you can check...
20120904 23:15:16< Espreon> http://www.wesnoth.org/gettext/ ... check this every so often
20120904 23:15:35< Espreon> If it's in, you should see your add-on's name in the list of add-ons there.
20120904 23:16:03< Espreon> Necrosporus: I hope you read this: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/WesCamp#Preparing_your_add-on_for_WesCamp
20120904 23:16:17 * Espreon knows he probably didn't, but meh
20120904 23:16:21< Necrosporus> Espreon, I have used mainline strings
20120904 23:16:42< Espreon> But did you do everything else right?
20120904 23:16:50< Espreon> That's what I'm wondering.
20120904 23:16:54< Necrosporus> I'm not sure
20120904 23:17:02< Necrosporus> But what I want is a pot file
20120904 23:17:08< Espreon> We'll find out soon enough...
20120904 23:17:15< Necrosporus> Everything else I can do myself
20120904 23:17:15< Espreon> ... you'll get one very soon.
20120904 23:17:17< Espreon> Be patient.
20120904 23:17:27< Necrosporus> I can maybe make one myself...
20120904 23:17:41< Necrosporus> boucman, seem to work so far
20120904 23:17:41< Espreon> You probably could.
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20120904 23:18:59< boucman> Necrosporus: ok, i'll test and commit at some point
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20120904 23:19:41< Necrosporus> http://storage3.static.itmages.ru/i/12/0905/h_1346793567_7285610_8241f73607.png
20120904 23:20:12< Necrosporus> boucman, though there are some artefacts with transparency
20120904 23:20:24< boucman> yes, but taht's another problem
20120904 23:20:35< Necrosporus> some parts of this unit are not transparent even within its own hex
20120904 23:21:39< Necrosporus> or that's stones
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20120904 23:24:55< Necrosporus> Seems that's just stones
20120904 23:25:18< Necrosporus> boucman, do I still need to post a bug report?
20120904 23:25:36< boucman> no need, it's on my todo list,
20120904 23:25:38< boucman> but thx
20120904 23:27:05< Espreon> wesbot: log 55243
20120904 23:27:07< wesbot> espreon * r55243 : Made a bunch of strings in the test scenario untranslatable; moved 'sword', 'bow', and 'longbow' out of the wesnoth domain.
20120904 23:27:10< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=55243
20120904 23:27:26< Espreon> I wish I dealt with all that stuff the moment I saw it...
20120904 23:29:16< Necrosporus> boucman, do you know who to ask for terrain animations? I want to place an animated volcano on my map
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20120904 23:29:44< boucman> zookeeper might know who to ask...
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20120904 23:29:55 * zookeeper doesn't
20120904 23:30:27< Necrosporus> I will try to do on my own, maybe I even go it right
20120904 23:30:57< Necrosporus> Though I want to make it shoot volcanic bombs at random points, is it quite possible?
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20120904 23:31:42< shadowm> No.
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20120904 23:31:52< shadowm> I mean, what's a volcanic bomb, anyway.
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20120904 23:32:34< Necrosporus> shadowm, semi-molt stones shoot by volcanos
20120904 23:32:50< Necrosporus> Basically just stones
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20120904 23:33:05< Necrosporus> though it can hurt someone
20120904 23:33:10< boucman> Necrosporus: that's one of the aim of the particle engine SoC you should ask bloodycoin when he's around...
20120904 23:33:22< Espreon> wesbot: log 55244
20120904 23:33:23< wesbot> espreon * r55244 : Made everything in scenario-movethrough.cfg untranslatable.
20120904 23:33:26< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=55244
20120904 23:33:33< Necrosporus> why?
20120904 23:34:08< Espreon> Because we don't like to have our test scenarios translatable.
20120904 23:34:09< shadowm> Yes, I'm pretty sure even small 1 cm^3 stones can kill people.
20120904 23:34:34< shadowm> Actually, I think the terrain graphics engine gained some degree of randomness last cycle, but I'm not sure.
20120904 23:35:19< shadowm> boucman: What's the state of that particle engine thing, by the way? I noticed it wasn't mentioned in the 1.11.0 announcement at all.
20120904 23:36:06< boucman> it hasn't be merged in trunk, but the basic infrastructure is in place, it needs to be polished and merged
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20120904 23:37:10< Necrosporus> Can I do it in 1.10.4? I mean, some animations of moving stone and plus events to hurt units (I guess, on moveto event)
20120904 23:37:31< boucman> no, even when it's merged it won't be backported to stable
20120904 23:37:50< Necrosporus> What can I do with 1.10.4 than?
20120904 23:38:13< zookeeper> good luck, folks, and have fun. i'm off to bed. -.-
20120904 23:38:20< Espreon> (Absolutely nothing...™)
20120904 23:38:28< Necrosporus> that's not true
20120904 23:38:33< Necrosporus> At least mill works
20120904 23:38:37< boucman> well, stable is stable... you need to work around the limitations (though bug are fixed in the next release)
20120904 23:38:44< Necrosporus> So the volcano itself must be doable
20120904 23:38:46< shadowm> boucman: Oh, it's not in trunk. I see.
20120904 23:39:03< boucman> i'll fix the idle thing for 1.10.5, but I don't know if/when it will be releaseed
20120904 23:39:19< boucman> shadowm: nope we worked in  a separate git repo
20120904 23:39:22< shadowm> boucman: Given enough important fixes ,it can be released any time.
20120904 23:39:50< shadowm> We can surely find more terribly broken code in 1.10 to fix if necessary.
20120904 23:39:51< boucman> true, but there are few important bug at this point...
20120904 23:42:24< Necrosporus> boucman, is there a way to get windows binary with this bug fixed?
20120904 23:42:38< Necrosporus> I don't know how to compile them (and don't have windows)
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20120904 23:42:56< Necrosporus> I mean with the patch you introduced
20120904 23:43:05< boucman> Necrosporus: not easily, compiling on windows is a daunting task...
20120904 23:43:08< Espreon> wesbot: log 55245
20120904 23:43:09< wesbot> espreon * r55245 : Replaced textdomain bindings with the proper wmllint directives in test scenarios; stripped trailing whitespace.
20120904 23:43:12< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=55245
20120904 23:43:31< Espreon> Oh wait..
20120904 23:43:39< Necrosporus> boucman, maybe one who makes windows releases can give wesnoth.exe with this patch or something
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20120904 23:44:25< Necrosporus> My co-author is using windows and probably want to see this bug fixed 
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20120904 23:44:59< boucman> Necrosporus: well, I can't help you with that, I don't have any windows pc, neither at home nor at work
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20120904 23:45:26< Necrosporus> boucman, what would you do if I said I don't know how to compile stuff?
20120904 23:45:50< Espreon> Meh.
20120904 23:46:17< loonycyborg> Necrosporus: Nobody knows how to compile on windows :P
20120904 23:46:41< boucman> why would you be asking the question in the first place, then ?
20120904 23:46:54< Necrosporus> I guess, I know... instally mingw, dependances and same way as on linux
20120904 23:47:25< Necrosporus> boucman, I wonder would you compile it for me test yourself with my code on your side
20120904 23:47:40< loonycyborg> I can cross-compile a trunk binary, but 1.10.xx will be harder.
20120904 23:48:02< loonycyborg> I'd prefer if another release was made.
20120904 23:48:07< Necrosporus> maybe I can crosscompile wesnoth.exe myself?
20120904 23:48:46< loonycyborg> I bet it'll be even harder for you than for me :P
20120904 23:49:34< Necrosporus> it would, but at least i can learn something if I will not be lazy
20120904 23:49:41< loonycyborg> Actually, it's only matter of rebooting and repeating the build I've done for latest 1.10 release with 1.10+svn
20120904 23:50:08< Necrosporus> how is it done?
20120904 23:50:21< Necrosporus> what stuff do one need to build it?
20120904 23:50:24< Necrosporus> wine?
20120904 23:50:46< loonycyborg> I do it from winxp partition, using mingw toolchain and scons.
20120904 23:51:09< loonycyborg> But setting up all the dependencies can be a pain.
20120904 23:51:45< Necrosporus> maybe it's easier with linux version of mingw?
20120904 23:52:00< loonycyborg> Once they've been set up, it's a single command from cmd.exe.
20120904 23:52:26< loonycyborg> Cross-compiling from linux will require setting up dependencies too.
20120904 23:52:41< Necrosporus> yeah, but if you figure it out how to compile from linux, you can stop rebutting every time you want to build something
20120904 23:52:56< Necrosporus> for windows
20120904 23:53:13< loonycyborg> I reboot to be sure that it works on native windows, since most people use it.
20120904 23:54:03< loonycyborg> (Because what's the point of using windows version on linux? :P)
20120904 23:54:19< Necrosporus> to test if it works in wine
20120904 23:55:45< Necrosporus> boucman, something is wrong with animation, though I don't know what exactly... I switched onto wesnoth windows and discovered units are not transparent... 
20120904 23:55:54< Necrosporus> * window
20120904 23:56:41< loonycyborg> It does work in wine btw :P
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