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20120920 00:34:18< CIA-108> jamit * r55331 /trunk/src/ (unit.cpp unit.hpp): 
20120920 00:34:18< CIA-108> Better way for temporary_unit_mover to change movement.
20120920 00:34:18< CIA-108> (It now handles negative movement the same way unit::set_movement() would.)
20120920 01:18:49< CIA-108> jamit * r55332 /trunk/src/ai/testing/aspect_attacks.cpp: 
20120920 01:18:49< CIA-108> A slightly faster test for backstab and slow.
20120920 01:18:49< CIA-108> The previous version already did an imperfect test for UMC versions of these
20120920 01:18:49< CIA-108> specials (by ignoring some filters; mainline units have no filters anyway)
20120920 01:18:49< CIA-108> in order to increase performance. This version ignores all filters for a
20120920 01:18:49< CIA-108> larger performance boost.
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20120920 01:40:11< CIA-108> jamit * r55333 /trunk/src/sdl_utils.cpp: English convention: space after the colon.
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20120920 14:55:16< CIA-108> jamit * r55334 /trunk/src/ (unit_types.hpp unit_types.cpp unit_abilities.cpp): Add some documentation and give some parameters more descriptive names.
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20120920 15:10:15< CIA-108> jamit * r55335 /trunk/src/unit_types.hpp: Restore a comment that was (presumably accidentally) half-deleted in r10989.
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20120920 16:56:22< AI0867> fendrin: cleared hotkeys aren't actually deleted, so you get a lot of __none__ hotkeys in your preferences
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20120920 17:08:17< AI0867> wesnothd sends invalid WML (just a single key, lacking a node) as a response if it does not accept the client's version and doesn't a good [redirect] for it
20120920 17:08:44< AI0867> I doubt anything depends on this behaviour, but correct me if I'm wrong
20120920 17:10:57< CIA-108> jamit * r55336 /trunk/src/ (unit_types.hpp unit_abilities.cpp): Convert two private member functions to static non-member functions.
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20120920 18:20:05< AI0867> okay, looks like the client actually uses it
20120920 18:20:34< AI0867> this code hasn't changed since 2005
20120920 18:21:49< AI0867> the bare version key is marked as being for backwards compatibility, but besides [redirect], there is no fallback
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20120920 18:50:12< fendrin> AI0867: hello
20120920 18:52:11< AI0867> fendrin: hey
20120920 18:54:29< fendrin> AI0867: Ah yes. Now I got it.
20120920 18:55:20< fendrin> AI0867: The saved preferences file contains that __none__ keys which can't be recognized thus you get error messages on the commandline. 
20120920 18:55:35< fendrin> AI0867: Did you also spot problems with the gameplay?
20120920 18:57:18< AI0867> didn't see any error messages on stderr, but I did see lots of commas in my hotkey list
20120920 18:57:34< AI0867> haven't actually done any gameplay =P
20120920 18:58:24< fendrin> AI0867: Ah, okay. I don't get any commas, is your operating system a linux=
20120920 18:58:27< fendrin> ?
20120920 19:00:42< fendrin> AI0867: Okay, stupid me. I learned how to reproduce the behavior.
20120920 19:01:33< fendrin> AI0867: I won't fix the issue with the dialog but commit a new one that is no longer a window of its own.
20120920 19:07:30< AI0867> ?
20120920 19:07:45< AI0867> the dialog is a symptom, not the problem
20120920 19:10:14< fendrin> Yes, the problem is in hotkeys.cpp.
20120920 19:10:14< fendrin> If you want to get rid of them in the savefile.
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20120920 19:21:57-!- Irssi: #wesnoth-dev: Total of 50 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 50 normal]
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20120920 19:23:35< fendrin> AI0867: Yes, I don't know much about multiplayer. I don't even get how those things are related.
20120920 19:24:35< fendrin> AI0867: I would love if you take the time and explain a little further.
20120920 19:24:39< fendrin> please
20120920 19:25:02< AI0867> they aren't
20120920 19:25:19< AI0867> I was looking into the protocol between wesnoth and wesnothd
20120920 19:27:15< fendrin> You talked not to me. I need to get a coffee.
20120920 19:27:31< fendrin> :-)
20120920 19:28:34< AI0867> you need coffee *now*? Your sleep schedule may be worse than mine
20120920 19:29:59< CIA-108> ai0867 * r55337 /trunk/src/server/server.cpp: Explicitly [reject] clients we don't know what to do with, while sending them the full list of versions we do accept
20120920 19:30:00< CIA-108> ai0867 * r55338 /trunk/src/multiplayer.cpp: Add client support for [reject]
20120920 19:30:01< AI0867> if you're still interested ^
20120920 19:31:46< fendrin> AI0867: Does that mean the player gets actually a useful error message? Like: "The server needs at lest version blah but you use blah -5!
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20120920 19:32:48< fendrin> hi noy
20120920 19:34:10< AI0867> it tried to already do that, but to a very limited degree
20120920 19:34:52< AI0867> if you have two different wesnoth versions on the same machine, you can test it by running wesnothd in one (no arguments needed) and wesnoth -s localhost in the other
20120920 19:35:08< AI0867> if you don't, you'll need to write a tiny config file for wesnothd
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20120920 19:52:03< fendrin> AI0867: I am going to test it.
20120920 19:54:18< fendrin> AI0867: Wich version must be the newer one? server or clie3nt?
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20120920 20:15:33< CIA-108> fendrin * r55339 /trunk/src/hotkeys.cpp: 
20120920 20:15:33< CIA-108> Handle cleared commands better.
20120920 20:15:33< CIA-108> Hide the "copy selected hex fields to clipboard" hotkey.
20120920 20:15:55< fendrin> AI0867:^
20120920 20:45:39< AI0867> either one works
20120920 20:46:01< AI0867> as long as their version is not the same, they won't work together by default
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20120920 20:52:53< CIA-108> jamit * r55340 /trunk/src/ (unit_types.hpp unit_abilities.cpp): Simplify the logic in attack_type::special_active().
20120920 20:52:57< Soliton> AI0867: those changes are backwards compatible, right? i.e. an old client connecting still understands the reply?
20120920 20:54:56< AI0867> yes
20120920 20:54:59< AI0867> I only added to it
20120920 20:55:13< AI0867> and clients will also still understand old servers
20120920 20:55:24< Soliton> excellent.
20120920 20:55:41< AI0867> but maybe, in 3 years or so, we can make the server responses into valid WML ;)
20120920 20:58:15< Soliton> top level keys are not valid?
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20120920 21:34:34< AI0867> according to some specs, there are only top-level tags
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20120920 22:26:15< Soliton> the preferences file is not valid WML either then. seems unnecessarily strict.
20120920 22:44:09< CIA-108> jamit * r55341 /trunk/src/unit_abilities.cpp: Eliminate some overhead that was used to sometimes avoid a single string comparison.
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20120920 23:01:00< jamit> fendrin: If you clear a hotkey, an almost-empty tag (contains just the command= attribute) gets written to the preferences file. Not a big deal since it gets erased eventually (when going back into the hotkey window?), but it's still something not quite working right.
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20120920 23:22:43< fendrin> jamit: You mean the file contains temporarily the hotkey tag with just command?
20120920 23:30:52< fendrin> jamit: Can you be more specific and tell me the value of the command attribute?
20120920 23:31:14< fendrin> Or is it for every cleared hotkey item?
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20120920 23:50:28< jamit> fendrin, right. In my file, I see (spread across multiple lines, obviously): [hotkey] command="animatemap" [/hotkey]
20120920 23:51:36< jamit> It happened for all the commands I tested, but I did not test that many. I was sticking to commands that did not have a hotkey by default (since it's easier to undo everything in that case).
20120920 23:54:17< fendrin> jamit: Thank you. I will have a look at it.
20120920 23:56:15< fendrin> Isn't a continue in a switch case continuing the outer for loop?
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