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20120912 02:21:01< Zazarg> Hey guys, is anyone available to answer a few questions for a computer idiot (me)?
20120912 02:30:09< loonycyborg> That's wrong attitude. True idiots never consider themselves such. Calling yourself an idiot betrays laziness, not stupidity.
20120912 02:31:32< Zazarg> Just trying to break the ice, I'm trying to get the new version of Wesnoth running, but i'm only understanding about 80% of how to do it
20120912 02:32:59< loonycyborg> Ehh? That shouldn't be a problem, no matter the platform..
20120912 02:34:14< Zazarg> running on windows
20120912 02:34:32< loonycyborg> Just download the installer and run it.
20120912 02:35:06< Zazarg> maybe I'm missing something... I'm lost in pages about compiling the code in visual studio and such
20120912 02:35:09< Zazarg> checking again...
20120912 02:35:11< shadowm> The installer is an executable file and as such the name ends in .exe. Some people manage to mistake it for the source code tarball.
20120912 02:35:31< shadowm> There's no need to compile from source if you don't know how to do that...
20120912 02:36:37< loonycyborg> http://www.wesnoth.org/ <- you need the link that says 'windows' here :P
20120912 02:37:55< loonycyborg> Compiling on windows is kinda challenging, probably not worth bothering with unless you want to develop.
20120912 02:38:31< Zazarg> I downloaded from the link you sent, but it does not have an installer exe
20120912 02:38:45< Zazarg> is the new 1.11 version compile only?
20120912 02:39:16< shadowm> No.
20120912 02:39:40< shadowm> The link for the 1.11.0 Windows build points to the installer exe: http://sourceforge.net/projects/wesnoth/files/wesnoth/wesnoth-1.11.0/wesnoth-1.11.0-win32.exe/download
20120912 02:40:52< shadowm> Note that if you haven't played Wesnoth before you probably shouldn't use 1.11.0.
20120912 02:41:18< Zazarg> I had a good run with it ~2 years ago 1.8
20120912 02:41:35< loonycyborg> Maybe your browser/download manager mangled the extension..
20120912 02:41:40< Zazarg> rediscovering it with my flatmate now
20120912 02:41:55< Zazarg> figured out the problem, thanks for the help guys
20120912 02:42:04< shadowm> Okay, no problem.
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20120912 02:42:29< Zazarg> is there a reason to not jump right to 1.11?
20120912 02:42:39< Zazarg> seems like a pretty big upgrade, I'm excited to check out the cahnges
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20120912 02:43:20< shadowm> Being the earliest development version in the 1.11.x series, it's bound to have quite a few bugs or unpolished features. New players might not realize which problems are regressions from 1.10.x, and thus might not report back to us and simply assume the game sucks or something.
20120912 02:44:07< Zazarg> oh right right
20120912 02:44:20< Zazarg> that won't be a problem on my end, I should be able to comb through it pretty erll
20120912 02:44:22< Zazarg> well*
20120912 02:44:46< Zazarg> problem ended up being the source code links are listed first, windows installs are listed second...
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20120912 02:45:27< shadowm> I know of a few such bugs myself; in particular, no matter which campaign difficulty you chose, you'll be back at Normal after loading saved games. Deleting all saves from the Load Game dialog also causes the game to crash.
20120912 02:45:38< shadowm> Both those issues will be fixed in 1.11.1, of course.
20120912 02:46:15< Zazarg> thanks for the heads up
20120912 02:46:26< shadowm> The difficulty one is pretty bad because it breaks the novice campaign (Two Brothers) entirely after the current scenario if you choose to load a save.
20120912 02:46:37< Zazarg> if I come across anything else I'll be sure to send a poke out
20120912 02:47:05< Zazarg> hopefully it's not too difficult of a fix for you guys
20120912 02:47:16< Zazarg> shadowm one of the main devs for this?
20120912 02:47:49< shadowm> I'm one of the developers, yes, but not very active as of late.
20120912 02:48:30< Zazarg> active or not man, one hell of a job
20120912 02:48:40< Zazarg> much appreciation to all of you guys
20120912 02:50:23< shadowm> :)
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20120912 23:10:17< pydsigner> wesbot !help
20120912 23:10:27< pydsigner> !help
20120912 23:10:35< Espreon> wesbot: help
20120912 23:10:35< wesbot> Espreon: I could tell you about bug(s), feature(s), task(s), patch(es), a log revision, update the topic, last seen of people... you name it.
20120912 23:10:47< Espreon> Have fun.
20120912 23:11:05< pydsigner> wesbot: bug
20120912 23:11:22< pydsigner> wesbot: bugs
20120912 23:11:23< shadowm> Please do it in private if you must.
20120912 23:11:23< wesbot> pydsigner: 186 bugs found, which one do you want?
20120912 23:13:25< pydsigner> That bot could be easier to use
20120912 23:13:38< shadowm> It's not for users.
20120912 23:14:01< pydsigner> For devs?
20120912 23:14:09< shadowm> Yes.
20120912 23:16:01< pydsigner> Hmm... So what is going to be new in 1.12?
20120912 23:16:17< Espreon> Who knows?
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20120912 23:17:00< pydsigner> Well, 1.11 is out I guess
20120912 23:18:12< shadowm> Anything new in 1.11.x will be new in 1.12.x when using 1.10.x as a reference line.
20120912 23:19:06< pydsigner> Well, I don't have access to 1.11.x.
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