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20121003 00:55:56< irker014> wesnoth: shadowmaster * r55463 /trunk/testfile: I am still testing
20121003 00:56:43< irker014> wesnoth: shadowmaster * r55464 /trunk/testfile: Revert "I am still testing"
20121003 00:56:44< irker014> This reverts commit r55463.
20121003 01:07:09< shadowm> fendrin_: I have completely different reasons to ask that question to dailin.
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20121003 02:16:15< fendrin_> shadowm: Well, I hope he is aware that Wesnoth is GPL. Would be nice to share some of the profit with the project like Kyle did.
20121003 02:19:25< irker014> wesnoth: ai0867 * r55465 /website/gettext.wesnoth.org/bin/update-gettext-stats: Add a 1.12 wescamp checkout to update-gettext-stats
20121003 02:20:27< fendrin_> shadowm: irker is the new cia?
20121003 02:20:29< AI0867> shadowm: color looks a bit off ^
20121003 02:20:32< AI0867> fendrin_: yes
20121003 02:20:43< fendrin_> hi AI0867
20121003 02:20:55< AI0867> though it has a vastly different architecture
20121003 02:21:50< fendrin_> AI0867: You are the author?
20121003 02:27:12< AI0867> no, esr is
20121003 02:27:27< AI0867> I did a bit of work on the svn part of irkerhook.py
20121003 02:44:57< shadowm> AI0867: The color looks like usual to me?
20121003 02:45:01< shadowm> *colors
20121003 02:45:24< shadowm> fendrin_: That's kind of why I asked him whether he talked to noy or Dave about it.
20121003 02:45:37< shadowm> I didn't want to go into detail since it's a public forum.
20121003 02:45:50< shadowm> And yes, irker is esr's thing.
20121003 02:45:58< shadowm> But this particular application is my thing. http://shadowm.rewound.net/blog/archives/247-irker-svnpoller-An-SVN-poller-and-mail-filter-application-for-irker.html
20121003 02:48:22< AI0867> shadowm: maybe it's irssi's highlighting
20121003 02:48:58< shadowm> I don't know what your irssi config is, but here it only highlights irker's nickname on the lines that mention me.
20121003 02:49:03< AI0867> projectname is white, my nick is yellow (from the highlight), revision is bright green, filepath is darker green, colon is bright green, commit message is darker green
20121003 02:49:16< AI0867> shadowm: that's what has me confused
20121003 02:49:42< shadowm> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21371130/screenshots/irssi-irker-display-example.png
20121003 02:50:18< AI0867> shadowm: well, *your* commits match your screenshot
20121003 02:51:47< shadowm> Btw can I join the Python club now?
20121003 02:51:52< shadowm> :p
20121003 02:51:57< AI0867> http://ai.ai0867.net/tmp/irssi-irker.png
20121003 02:52:53< shadowm> Yeah, that looks weird.
20121003 02:53:47< shadowm> I mean, besides the massive font size.
20121003 02:54:06< shadowm> Those antialiased curves are so pretty.
20121003 03:22:19< irker014> wesnoth: alarantalara * r55466 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/11_Battle_for_Zocthanol_Isle.cfg: Remove pointless condition since the one-time event is the only thing that can cause it to evaluate to false
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20121003 03:39:57< fendrin_> shadowm: Yes, I think the topic is back on to normal. Sapient already pmed me to delete my comment but it is too late since it is already quoted.
20121003 03:40:46< shadowm> Too bad that derailment means he didn't answer my question.
20121003 03:44:06< fendrin_> Well, let's just be more charming than usual and try to get him into the developer pool.
20121003 03:45:07< fendrin_> I do not want another bad appstore port that is damaging our repute while we earn money form it.
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20121003 03:50:54< shadowm> I suspect in this case it'll be more like, damaging our repute while we are forced to file for chapter 11 bankruptcy.
20121003 03:51:38< shadowm> (Just poking fun at the situation here.)
20121003 03:52:59< fendrin_> Honestly, the old iphone port is some unholy thing. The users are not really happy with it, most of them don't understand that it is not our product and still the project gets some refunds. The situation is suboptimal.
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20121003 05:47:04< esr> shadowm: You there?
20121003 05:48:28< shadowm> Yes.
20121003 05:52:11< shadowm> esr: Yes.
20121003 05:52:33< irker014> wesnoth: alarantalara * r55467 /trunk/data/campaigns/Under_the_Burning_Suns/scenarios/08_Out_of_the_Frying_Pan.cfg: Remove need for NOT_SHALLOW_WATER_TO_KEEP macro. Incidentally optimizes run speed of flooding.
20121003 05:54:07< esr> shadowm: Duuude.  You finally wrote a Python program!  And it looks good. <voice style="palpatine">Welcome to the dark side!</voice>   :-)
20121003 05:55:42< shadowm> Haha.
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20121003 06:15:47< esr> shadowm: Seriously, that looks like good work.  Well done!
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20121003 06:32:52< shadowm> esr: Yeah, I guess? I am rarely happy with my own code for very long, but at the very least this allowed me to regain some confidence in my ability to learn programming languages.
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20121003 07:51:28< shadowm> fendrin_: Hm, your changes to hex selection remind me (especially now that I'm testing them in conjunction with the patch you mentioned) that it's really annoying when I accidentally click on the gamemap when trying to advance cutscene dialogs.
20121003 07:52:01< shadowm> It looks ugly when the whole gamemap is covered by that selection overlay.
20121003 08:05:24< shadowm> Hm, I like the patch's effects.
20121003 08:05:29< shadowm> I'll look at the code later.
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20121003 09:36:30< irker201> wesnoth: ivanovic * r55469 /branches/1.10/ (7 files in 7 dirs): updated Scottish Gaelic translation
20121003 09:36:32< irker201> wesnoth: ivanovic * r55468 /trunk/ (7 files in 7 dirs): updated Scottish Gaelic translation
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20121003 09:41:27< shadowm> elias: Could you check why wesnoth_addon_manager dies when trying to download a specific add-on from the 1.10.x add-ons server? The C++ client seems unaffected.
20121003 09:41:33< shadowm> elias: $ wesnoth_addon_manager -p 1.10.x -d Colosseum_edit_harder
20121003 09:42:20< shadowm> elias: Example output: http://pastebin.com/bDmDZgEx
20121003 09:43:58< shadowm> elias: The C++ client doesn't present WML preprocessor or parser errors when going into multiplayer mode with the add-on installed.
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20121003 10:36:17< irker201> wesnoth: ai0867 * r55470 /website/gettext.wesnoth.org/config.php: Work around PHP not obeying its own specification
20121003 10:39:07< irker201> wesnoth: ai0867 * r55471 /website/gettext.wesnoth.org/config.php: Add some extra guards
20121003 10:41:21< irker201> wesnoth: ai0867 * r55472 /website/gettext.wesnoth.org/config.php: Update wescamp trunk version
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20121003 10:55:50< zookeeper> fendrin_, so, please come up with a WML hotfix for this if at all possible: http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37681
20121003 11:01:52< shadowm> fendrin_: I'm handling coffee's patch.
20121003 11:02:30< shadowm> That is, https://gna.org/patch/?3527 . I asked him about a few code concerns first, though.
20121003 11:03:52< fendrin_> shadowm: Okay, thanks. I hope I did well replying to his forum thread. After reading it again I felt I was a little bit too harsh.
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20121003 11:07:37< shadowm> No, I think it's all right.
20121003 11:08:58< shadowm> Recruit location highlighting wouldn't serve an actual purpose most of the time. For situations where suitable locations are non-obvious (e.g. abuse of the castle or keep overlays), it should be the scenario designer's responsibility to provide the player with visual cues.
20121003 11:09:58< shadowm> Alternatively, people could implement an accessible terrain graphics add-on.
20121003 11:11:09< shadowm> That reminds me that we should have an option to display textual team numbers _somewhere_, either on the sidebar or (preferably) the gamemap.
20121003 11:12:41< shadowm> Otherwise certain types of color blindness could make unit allegiance rather hard to determine on a mirror match with more than two players.
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20121003 11:20:57< fendrin_> zookeeper: Yes, I will have a look at the issue.
20121003 11:22:05< zookeeper> you've fixed it in trunk already
20121003 11:23:43< elias> shadowm: i wonder if addon manager uses the python instead of c++ parser
20121003 11:24:53< elias> i'll look at it in the evening if i don't forget
20121003 11:31:43< AI0867> elias: it does
20121003 11:31:53< AI0867> the backtrace clearly shows that
20121003 11:51:28< elias> i wonder why
20121003 11:51:41< elias> maybe i can make it use the C++ one
20121003 11:53:29< elias> and then just remove the python one, there's no reason to use it
20121003 12:03:10< fendrin_> Ivanovic: Already thought about the release date of 1.11.1 ?
20121003 12:06:22< Ivanovic> fendrin_: nope
20121003 12:08:47< fendrin_> Ivanovic: So I guess that there is still some time between today and the release.
20121003 12:08:58< Ivanovic> yes
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20121003 14:36:53< irker201> wesnoth: ivanovic * r55473 /trunk/data/core/about.cfg: extended Scottish Gaelic translation credits entry
20121003 14:36:55< irker201> wesnoth: ivanovic * r55474 /branches/1.10/data/core/about.cfg: extended Scottish Gaelic translation credits entry
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20121003 15:17:20< elias> hm, what is this irker?
20121003 15:17:49< elias> is this wesnoth only, or could other projects use it instead of cia.vc?
20121003 15:23:39< AI0867> it's a CIA replacement
20121003 15:23:48< AI0867> this particular instance runs on my machine
20121003 15:31:57< boucman_work> what's wrong with CIA ?
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20121003 15:36:34< loonycyborg> boucman_work: It was nuked accidentally due to miscommunication with the hosting service
20121003 15:36:43< loonycyborg> And there were no backups :P
20121003 15:36:56< boucman_work> oh :(
20121003 15:39:06< irker201> wesnoth: ivanovic * r55476 /branches/1.10/po/wesnoth/gd.po: updated Scottish Gaelic translation
20121003 15:39:07< irker201> wesnoth: ivanovic * r55475 /trunk/po/wesnoth/gd.po: updated Scottish Gaelic translation
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20121003 17:01:19< Alarantalara> Ayne: The easiest way to recreate bug #20211 is to revert r55458 locally then jump to the scenario Dark Sky Over Weldyn in the Delfador's memoirs campaign.
20121003 17:04:18< Ayne> Alarantalara: I tried that. The campaign continued.
20121003 17:10:07< Alarantalara> Ayne: I see. I wonder if I was not up to date in trunk and it was already fixed. I'll try it out.
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20121003 17:25:44< Alarantalara> Ayne: I still can reproduce it with r55458 reverted. You do have to go through/skip the story before the error occurs.
20121003 17:27:41< Ayne> Alarantalara: I'm on r55457 and I've gone all the way to The Portal of Doom without it crashing :S
20121003 17:29:57< Alarantalara> At least it doesn't appear to be OS specific, since the original bug was reported on Windows and I reproduced on OS X.
20121003 17:34:24< Ayne> I'm on Linux.. No idea why I can't reproduce the bug, since my two copies of Wesnoth shouldn't be any different from trunk/r55457
20121003 17:35:58< Alarantalara> I'll see if I can isolate it for you
20121003 17:41:25< Ayne> Thanks. I've got to go, but I'll be back in a bit
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20121003 18:26:35< Alarantalara> Ayne: I've added a narrative of what happens to the bug report. 
20121003 18:27:26< Ayne> Alarantalara: Yes, I just saw. I have to go soon, but I will take another look and see if I can fix that tomorrow. Thanks for the help
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20121003 19:03:12< irker162> wesnoth: lipk * r55477 /branches/1.10/src/ (playmp_controller.cpp team.cpp playturn.cpp): Apply patch #3360 for 1.10
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20121003 19:25:53< irker162> wesnoth: ai0867 * r55478 /trunk/src/game.cpp: Reindent a function
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20121003 19:29:41< irker162> wesnoth: ai0867 * r55479 /trunk/src/game.cpp: with tabs...
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20121003 22:06:43< shadowm> elias: I thought it shared the Python parser with wmllint et al.
20121003 22:07:06< elias> i thought wmllint uses regexps
20121003 22:08:31< shadowm> wmllint uses wmliteratorfrom wesnoth.wmltools import *
20121003 22:08:31< shadowm> from wesnoth.wmliterator import *
20121003 22:08:51< shadowm> Eh. Yeah. It uses wmltools and wmliterator.
20121003 22:09:17< shadowm> Ah, so wesnoth_addon_manager uses yet another parser.
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20121003 22:25:14< AI0867> there are a few too many ways to use WML in python
20121003 22:25:29< AI0867> wmliterator is single-file only. It does not do preprocessor stuff
20121003 22:25:49< AI0867> wmlparser is a full implementation that is not entirely compatible
20121003 22:26:03< AI0867> wmlparser2 uses wesnoth's own parser
20121003 22:26:29< shadowm> boucman: http://shadowm.rewound.net/blog/archives/246-Exit-CIA.vc,-enter-irker.html
20121003 22:26:43< shadowm> The application we use is my own: http://shadowm.rewound.net/blog/archives/247-irker-svnpoller-Subversion-poller-and-mail-filter-application-for-irker.html
20121003 22:27:04< AI0867> and in my wesnothd_client, I have a SimpleWML class that, like wesnothd's version, depends on the input being normalized
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20121003 22:31:04< boucman> thx
20121003 22:33:57< shadowm> Espreon, Ivanovic : Just a reminder that whenever you add new translators with known forum accounts you should add them to Translators in the forums yourselves or ask me.
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20121003 23:01:56< Espreon> Hmmm... if only I had the ability to add people to that group.
20121003 23:03:53< shadowm> You don't?
20121003 23:04:26< Espreon> Well, I'm not one of the group's leaders.
20121003 23:04:28< Espreon> ... apparently.
20121003 23:04:30< shadowm> Now you are.
20121003 23:05:13< shadowm> Now you can go to http://forums.wesnoth.org/ucp.php?i=groups&mode=manage to do stuff.
20121003 23:06:02< Espreon> Cool.
20121003 23:06:07< Espreon> Thanks.
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