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Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20121017 20:56:59-!- Topic set by wesbot [~wesbot@asteria.debian.or.at] [Tue Oct 16 21:20:38 2012] 20121017 20:56:59[Users #wesnoth-dev] 20121017 20:56:59[ AI0867 ] [ fendrin ] [ loonycyborg ] [ stikonas ] 20121017 20:56:59[ Akihara ] [ Gambit ] [ LordNasty ] [ Tigge ] 20121017 20:56:59[ Anakonda ] [ grzywacz ] [ mattsc ] [ timotei ] 20121017 20:56:59[ apoi ] [ happygrue] [ melinath ] [ ToBeFree ] 20121017 20:56:59[ balrog ] [ hopman- ] [ mjs-de ] [ vultraz ] 20121017 20:56:59[ boucman ] [ isaac_ ] [ negusnyul ] [ vultraz_laptop] 20121017 20:56:59[ ChrisOelmueller] [ Ivanovic ] [ noy ] [ wesbot ] 20121017 20:56:59[ crimson_penguin] [ iwaim_ ] [ Rhonda ] [ xchat_sux ] 20121017 20:56:59[ EdB ] [ jamit ] [ Samual ] [ yann ] 20121017 20:56:59[ ejls ] [ janebot ] [ shadowm ] [ zookeeper ] 20121017 20:56:59[ elias ] [ knotwork ] [ shadowm_laptop] [ {V} ] 20121017 20:56:59[ Espreon ] [ lipkab ] [ shikadibot ] 20121017 20:56:59[ esr ] [ lobby ] [ skyfaller ] 20121017 20:56:59[ ettin ] [ loonybot ] [ Smar ] 20121017 20:56:59-!- Irssi: #wesnoth-dev: Total of 53 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 53 normal] 20121017 20:57:06-!- Channel #wesnoth-dev created Tue Jan 27 06:28:41 2009 20121017 20:57:31-!- Soliton [~Soliton@wesnoth/developer/soliton] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121017 20:58:05-!- Irssi: Join to #wesnoth-dev was synced in 74 secs 20121017 21:03:11-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20121017 21:51:28< zookeeper> anyone remember who's worked on the status table? 20121017 21:52:53-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.114.79.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121017 21:54:10-!- lipk [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121017 21:56:44-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20121017 22:02:09-!- lipk is now known as lipkab 20121017 22:05:47< zookeeper> ah well, nevermind. 20121017 22:15:11-!- negusnyul [~negusnyul@dsl51B6E0CA.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20121017 22:24:29-!- EdB [~edb@tss37-1-89-82-194-231.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20121017 22:50:41< jamit> zookeeper: You asked because the status table can show a leader's ID? It's not really the leader's ID, but the side's current_player attribute, which happens to default to the leader's ID. 20121017 22:50:55< zookeeper> yes 20121017 22:51:12< jamit> Kind of odd for a translatable attribute to default to a non-translatable one, though. 20121017 22:52:02< zookeeper> it seems like a bit of a complicated issue since you need to treat sides differently based on whether they're a human side in MP or not, so i don't know what the best way to deal with it is, but the leader id should not be shown in any case. 20121017 22:54:07< zookeeper> anyways, i was just about to go to bed, will read the logs tomorrow in case you had something to add... 20121017 22:54:11< jamit> Maybe it should default to something like user_team_name + "-" + side? 20121017 22:55:14< jamit> Not sure though. I haven't looked at how it's set/used in the code. I just know the defaults from messing with WML. 20121017 22:56:36< Espreon> user_team_name + "-" + side... ... ... hmmm? 20121017 22:57:57< Espreon> Well, as long as the translator can switch things around, I guess it'd be fine. 20121017 22:58:22< jamit> Not great, but it's something. There are not many translatable things to use as a default there. 20121017 22:58:29-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20121017 22:59:24< jamit> Even if that was done, it should probably be "encouraged" somehow for scenarios to define current_player. 20121017 22:59:46< Espreon> Yes. 20121017 23:00:48< Espreon> (and we'd need to bring the ability to change that attribute's value back) 20121017 23:04:16-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Quit: And away we go] 20121017 23:13:38-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@f053191233.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20121017 23:44:28-!- Upth [~ogmar@69.62.144.56] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121017 23:44:28-!- Upth is now known as Upthorn 20121017 23:47:38-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@89-67-177-27.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121017 23:47:38-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@89-67-177-27.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Changing host] 20121017 23:47:38-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121017 23:50:24-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] --- Log closed Thu Oct 18 00:01:00 2012