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Whenever I switch to fullscreen something awkward happens but not the same thing every time. In most cases the application is spread over both monitors leaving huge black borders on each side, not very playable. When leaving fullscreen mode or quiting Wesnoth my Desktop is not restored properly (KDE, again there are several different things which 20121004 11:16:12< fendrin_> can happen). I don't know about Windows/Mac and all the other targets. The problem is based on libSDL not handling multi monitors properly. The upcoming 1.3/2.0 release of SDL promises to do better. The feature list includes new support for multiple monitors and multiple windows. 20121004 11:17:14< shadowm> Yeah, the only problem is that SDL 2.0 will be both API and ABI incompatible with SDL 1.2. 20121004 11:18:24< fendrin_> shadowm: Well, ABI isn't much of a problem in our case, is it? 20121004 11:18:27< shadowm> It will probably take some extensive work for us to support that and it might be necessary to drop SDL 1.2 compatibility by then. 20121004 11:18:57< shadowm> So that might be a 1.14 or 1.16 target if SDL 2.0 gets released before 1.12. 20121004 11:20:06< fendrin_> On a side not a like to mention the minor important issue that libsdl2.0 will also support force feedback devices, which I like to put in use together with the new joystick/gamepad support. 20121004 11:21:18< fendrin_> s/not/note 20121004 11:43:16-!- igorko [~Instantbi@93-127-15-131.static.vega-ua.net] has joined #wesnoth 20121004 11:51:35-!- Xjs|moonshine [moon@siddhartha.aoide.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20121004 11:59:33< vurtual> welp, let's hope windows supprot sit 20121004 12:00:23-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20121004 12:00:34< vurtual> my gpu does angling, most games like source engine ones and crysis have wonky hud, ut3 hates FOV, ut99 hates the res, ut2k4 somehow works fine. wesnoth would be a good test 20121004 12:00:51-!- igorko [~Instantbi@93-127-15-131.static.vega-ua.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20121004 12:02:34-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has joined #wesnoth 20121004 12:03:09-!- igorko [~Instantbi@93-127-15-131.static.vega-ua.net] has joined #wesnoth 20121004 12:05:07-!- Xjs|moonshine [moon@siddhartha.aoide.de] has joined #wesnoth 20121004 12:11:48-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20121004 12:13:24-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20121004 12:27:01-!- chimay [~chimay@unaffiliated/chimay] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0-dev] 20121004 12:39:56-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has joined #wesnoth 20121004 13:07:56< fendrin_> shadowm: http://wiki.libsdl.org/moin.cgi/MigrationGuide 20121004 13:36:34-!- dkkrg [~dkkrg@opt-101-1-149-55.client.pikara.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20121004 13:38:07-!- horon [~horon@nttkyo042189.tkyo.nt.ngn2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20121004 13:45:14-!- xchat_sux [~eli@dhip-029.rrw.residences.colby.edu] has joined #wesnoth 20121004 13:48:34< loonycyborg> fendrin_: Why would you want to run wesnoth fullscreen, anyway? I always prefer maximized window instead. 20121004 13:53:21< fendrin_> loonycyborg: Scrolling when the mouse hits the map border works better in fullscreen mode. There is also no reason to waste space for window borders. 20121004 13:53:45< loonycyborg> It doesn't waste it for me. 20121004 13:54:01< loonycyborg> It removes border from fullscreen windows. 20121004 13:54:16< loonycyborg> And you can set taskbar to auto-hide too. 20121004 13:54:50< loonycyborg> And I use 4D scroll to scroll the map anyway :P 20121004 13:55:24< fendrin_> 4d scroll? 20121004 13:56:24< loonycyborg> Yeah. Some mice have it. You can scroll both horizontally and vertically with it. 20121004 13:58:25< fendrin_> How is it implemented? Can you point me to a device that supports it? 20121004 13:58:59< loonycyborg> It's basically a touch panel. 20121004 13:59:22< fendrin_> My mouse has a scroll wheel that supports 4 directions. But it isn't working very well in Wesnoth imho. 20121004 13:59:49< loonycyborg> http://www.genius.ru/products.aspx?pnum=20767 <- this is the one I'm using currently. 20121004 14:01:12< vurtual> my mouse has a tilting wheel 20121004 14:04:06 * vultraz watches as people start comparing mice to see who has the coolest 20121004 14:09:22< zookeeper> i have a second-hand mx518 which is really nice, except that all the extra buttons are so easy to misclick that i have them disabled. -.- except for the app switching button, which i still misclick all the time accidentally. 20121004 14:10:48< fendrin_> loonycyborg: I see. Looks interesting. 20121004 14:11:05< fendrin_> vultraz: :-) 20121004 14:11:43< vultraz> I have a simple laser muse that has 2 buttons on the side that don't seem to do much 20121004 14:11:47< vultraz> mouse* 20121004 14:11:59< fendrin_> By the way, current trunk supports hotkey assignment to mouse buttons since ~ a week. 20121004 14:12:01< vultraz> besides scrol 20121004 14:12:03< vultraz> l 20121004 14:12:16< vurtual> M305 20121004 14:12:19< vurtual> ULTIAMTE COOL 20121004 14:12:25< vurtual> why does everyone have an mx518 20121004 14:12:47< zookeeper> because everyone seems to say that they're great :p 20121004 14:12:49-!- igorko [~Instantbi@93-127-15-131.static.vega-ua.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20121004 14:15:09-!- igorko [~Instantbi@93-127-15-131.static.vega-ua.net] has joined #wesnoth 20121004 14:55:16-!- igorko [~Instantbi@93-127-15-131.static.vega-ua.net] has quit [Quit: Instantbird 1.2 -- http://www.instantbird.com] 20121004 15:05:19-!- Xjs|moonshine 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