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20121010 22:52:12< Evropi>  I literally just released Temple of the nagas 1.26.1. I still haven't done the big change planned for 1.30, but jb's and Mythological's all-time classic is on its way back up the survival scenario ladder
20121010 22:52:25< Evropi> if anyone can get 4 friends together, I would highly recommend it
20121010 22:53:55< Evropi> though it's still under heavy development, and the picking up and dropping of items has yet to be implemented. Give it 2 weeks or so, I'll get it done when I have the time. The codebase is ancient and massive--it's 200kb of a .cfg file! For those not initiated in WML, that means it's 6000+ lines of confusing text. All in one file, with almost no variables (bits you can drop in and out). Sigh
20121010 22:54:19< sur_nhm> That is messy.
20121010 22:54:27< Evropi> Still, it is very much playable and I would recommend it to any fan of survival scenarios.
20121010 22:54:42< Evropi> yeah, I know, uses only 2 macros as well and no predefined macros
20121010 22:55:04< blarumyrran> iirc it heavily encouraged players to make a super-unit that gets all artifacts
20121010 22:55:08< blarumyrran> I think that's a fault
20121010 22:55:46< sur_nhm> I'm running the SvN version of BfW, though
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20121010 22:55:56< sur_nhm> might be hard to come across pals for multiplayer.
20121010 22:56:55< Evropi2> dang server
20121010 22:57:14< Evropi2> I was about to say, blarumyrran
20121010 22:57:29< Evropi2> I am actually considering allowing only a single item to be carried
20121010 22:57:35< Evropi2> I don't think I'll nerf the items
20121010 22:57:50< Evropi2> TOTN is best viewed as a "baby's first survival scenario" :)
20121010 22:58:20< Evropi2> sur_nhm: it is, I play with an IRL friend and my clan from another game that has now moved on to... several other games, though mainly BfW
20121010 22:58:33< Evropi2> we also watch movies together from time to time with streams
20121010 22:58:44< Evropi2> very tight-nit group of friends and I've met one of the guys IRL
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20121010 22:59:00< sur_nhm> * tight-knt
20121010 22:59:04< sur_nhm> * tight-knit
20121010 22:59:17< zookeeper> nah, it's not the linecount which makes code messy.
20121010 22:59:22< Evropi> A Grammar Nazi, I see
20121010 22:59:25< Evropi> yeah, it's the lack of macros
20121010 22:59:35< Evropi> and ridiculously inefficient ways of doing things
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20121010 23:00:34< sur_nhm> I do meddle a bit with programming. Never got past the scripting stage, though.
20121010 23:00:35< zookeeper> i'd say it's usually the other way around. heavy use of macros usually only makes things harder to comprehend.
20121010 23:01:06< zookeeper> if you got a macro calling a macro calling a macro calling a macro then you can't have any idea of what's really going on anymore.
20121010 23:01:07< Evropi> some of them make sense
20121010 23:01:12< Evropi> like FLASH_WHITE
20121010 23:01:15< Evropi> yeah that happens at times
20121010 23:01:20< Evropi> see Bob's RPG Era
20121010 23:01:29< Evropi> dear oh dear, you might as well call it obfuscated
20121010 23:01:36< zookeeper> but of course they can be used well and they're quite indispensable
20121010 23:01:41< zookeeper> yep
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