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20121103 00:03:34< Soliton> as Huumy explained in that thread they sure are tanks.
20121103 00:04:16< Soliton> it's not clear what context you're referring to though.
20121103 00:05:07< Soliton> they're probably not too helpful in that regard in a campaign on the players side for example.
20121103 00:06:16< fabi_> My proplem is that I do not want them to work as tanks for the campaigns purposes.
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20121103 09:15:24< irker453> wesnoth: ivanovic * r55638 /trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
20121103 09:15:24< irker453> updated Hungarian translation
20121103 09:15:26< irker453> wesnoth: ivanovic * r55637 /branches/1.10/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
20121103 09:15:26< irker453> updated Hungarian translation
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20121103 09:32:36< Ivanovic> lovely...
20121103 09:32:52< Ivanovic> wesnoth does not compile with boost 1.51.0
20121103 09:33:31< Ivanovic> http://pastebin.com/spv0MvpY
20121103 09:33:35< Ivanovic> identical in 1.10 and trunk#
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20121103 13:40:27< mordante> servus
20121103 14:01:10< mordante> Ivanovic, can you test this patch against 1.10 http://paste.debian.net/206106/
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20121103 15:29:19< Ivanovic> re
20121103 15:29:39< Ivanovic> mordante: with the patch: http://pastebin.com/RFLJnLbP
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20121103 15:41:31< mordante> Ivanovic, another attempt http://paste.debian.net/206128/
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20121103 16:08:57< irker350> wesnoth: mordante * r55639 /trunk/src/ (variant.hpp variant.cpp):
20121103 16:08:57< irker350> Let operator= return a reference.
20121103 16:08:58< irker350> Issue found by cppcheck.
20121103 16:09:00< irker350> wesnoth: mordante * r55640 /trunk/src/utils/reference_counter.hpp:
20121103 16:09:01< irker350> Pass parameter by const ref instead of const value.
20121103 16:09:01< irker350> Issue found by cppcheck.
20121103 16:09:03< irker350> wesnoth: mordante * r55641 /trunk/src/gamestatus.cpp:
20121103 16:09:03< irker350> Avoid using an iterator after deletion.
20121103 16:09:04< irker350> Issue found by cppcheck.
20121103 16:10:52< Espreon> Sadly, I guess I'm not in the right position to ask mordante why he's obsessed with this.
20121103 16:11:01< Espreon> ... since I too have absurd obsessions.
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20121103 16:14:34< elias> using a deleted iterator is invalid
20121103 16:14:41< mordante> Espreon, well since there are some useful errors to be found 55641 is a real issue
20121103 16:15:14< Espreon> Hmmm, I suppose.
20121103 16:15:15< Ivanovic> mordante: that last change looks good
20121103 16:15:29< Ivanovic> will you apply it to trunk and 1.10? (yes, both are affected)
20121103 16:15:47< mordante> I read both were affected ;-)
20121103 16:15:58< mordante> I'll commit it with some comment
20121103 16:17:23< Ivanovic> once it is done i will attach the diff to this gentoo bug report: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440742
20121103 16:22:28< irker350> wesnoth: mordante * r55642 /branches/1.10/ (changelog src/image.cpp):
20121103 16:22:29< irker350> Fixes compilation with Boost 1.51.0.
20121103 16:22:30< irker350> Ivanovic mention the bug and its report in the Gentoo bug tracker [1].
20121103 16:22:30< irker350> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440742
20121103 16:25:37< irker350> wesnoth: mordante * r55643 /trunk/ (changelog src/image.cpp):
20121103 16:25:37< irker350> Fixes compilation with Boost 1.51.0.
20121103 16:25:38< irker350> Ivanovic mention the bug and its report in the Gentoo bug tracker [1].
20121103 16:25:39< irker350> Ported from 1.10 branch r55642.
20121103 16:25:39< irker350> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440742
20121103 16:25:43< mordante> Ivanovic, committed 
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20121103 16:46:28< fabi_> Okay, we discussed some changes to the titlescreen dialog to make it look better at high resolutions.
20121103 16:48:36< fabi_> I think it is worth thinking about a solution that prevents all kind of scaling, especially if the result is distorted on non 4:3 resolutions. 
20121103 16:51:16< fabi_> My suggestion is to take a high resolution map from the great Continent and show only a part of it. On low resolutions that part should be centered around Weldyn.
20121103 16:57:44< lipkab> fabi_: Are there a high resolution maps...?
20121103 17:01:13< zookeeper> there aren't
20121103 17:01:33< fabi_> lipkab: http://postimage.org/image/xp4wgedlx/full/
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20121103 17:02:03< zookeeper> anyway, removing the scaling of the map in the title screen wouldn't look so great with the current map, but once i finish the new ones it's going to be needed anyway
20121103 17:02:50< zookeeper> i mean, removing the scaling of the current map on non-widescreen resolutions wouldn't look so great. the stretching of course makes it hideous on widescreen.
20121103 17:11:30< zookeeper> fabi_, where did that discussion take place?
20121103 17:16:48< fabi_> zookeeper: Once here, but mordante was not around. And some at wesnoth-de.
20121103 17:20:00< zookeeper> mmkay
20121103 17:21:09< zookeeper> well, while a single huge map might be nice, my suggestion is rather to keep the map centered, and possibly only scale it while keeping the aspect ratio intact.
20121103 17:21:20< zookeeper> that's how i've planned for my new maps to work, anyway
20121103 17:22:03< zookeeper> http://imagebin.org/234469 <- tileable background, map centered and unscaled on top of it
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20121103 17:32:08< fabi_> zookeeper: Looks very nice.
20121103 18:04:34< mordante> zookeeper, and on larger screens you want more wood to be shown?
20121103 18:04:42< zookeeper> mordante, yes
20121103 18:05:36< mordante> what resolution will the map get?
20121103 18:05:57< zookeeper> i'm planning on 1280x960 atm
20121103 18:07:27< zookeeper> i could do bigger too, but then it'd get downscaled on the most common resolutions (1280x1024/960, 1920x1080, etc)
20121103 18:09:54< mordante> but if we don't scale 1280x960 would be somewhat small
20121103 18:10:05< mordante> we could crop on smaller resolutions
20121103 18:10:58< zookeeper> yes, but it could also be scaled up somewhat on really big resolutions
20121103 18:12:05< zookeeper> also, it could be positioned so that on a really large resolution, the map doesn't stay centered but avoids the menus and tips
20121103 18:14:02< zookeeper> anyway, of course i could produce a titlescreen map in various shapes and sizes, but that wouldn't work for story screens since i don't want to create several versions of _every_ map
20121103 18:14:03< mordante> would indeed be nice if possible.
20121103 18:15:09< mordante> other resolutions, does that mean redrawing everything or a kind or rerender things?
20121103 18:17:08< zookeeper> more like a re-render. still a bit of work since it involves so many steps.
20121103 18:25:22< mordante> ok
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20121103 18:46:26< lipkab> fabi_: "I think you do not need to make a program GPL if you only use images which are GPL." <- I've been thinking that, too.
20121103 18:46:47< lipkab> But the GPL actually rather clearly states the opposite.
20121103 18:46:56< lipkab> These requirements apply to the modified work as a whole. If identifiable sections of that work are not derived from the Program, and can be reasonably considered independent and separate works in themselves, then this License, and its terms, do not apply to those sections when you distribute them as separate works. But when you distribute the same sections as part of a whole which is a work based on the Program, the distributio
20121103 18:47:27< lipkab>  this License, whose permissions for other licensees extend to the entire whole, and thus to each and every part regardless of who wrote it.
20121103 18:49:26< lipkab> ...and I thought that the map you mentioned was some UMC stuff, but it looks pretty good nonetheless.
20121103 18:57:21< elias> the version bundled with the GPL images certainly has to be GPL as a whole
20121103 18:57:46< elias> but as copyright holder, you can still license your code under different licenses in addition to the GPL
20121103 18:58:11< elias> so you could for example distribute another copy (without the GPL images) in another license
20121103 19:01:11< elias> you can also take any BSD or MIT licenses code and combine with those images, then release it all under GPL - as those licenses allow it
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20121103 19:05:17< lipkab> elias: The problem is that there's a(n apparently) commercial game which uses Wesnoth images, see http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=37770
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20121103 19:07:05< elias> that means it needs to be open sourced, yeah
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20121103 19:12:13< Gambit> ugh the misconceptions in that thread
20121103 19:12:21< Gambit> they think the gpl has something to do with money v_v
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20121103 19:37:24< AI0867> mordante: http://ai.ai0867.net/tmp/gui2_portrait_crop.diff <-- Some work-in-progress on cropping things. Currently the coordinates are off
20121103 19:48:09< Espreon> elias: Could you make it so that @ modifiers in the language codes in units.wesnoth.org's language selection thingy don't get removed?
20121103 19:50:32< elias> Espreon: they aren't removed
20121103 19:50:52< Espreon> Then why do I see four "sr"s?
20121103 19:51:12< elias> a bug i suppose
20121103 19:52:12< Espreon> http://imagebin.org/234477
20121103 19:52:41< Espreon> And I suppose country codes shouldn't be removed for some langs.
20121103 19:54:19< mordante> AI0867, not sure whether the from what we want, maybe specify the centre of the image an crop height and width instead
20121103 19:54:57< mordante> thus get crop_x, crop_y, crop_w and crop_h
20121103 19:56:07< mordante> or better let x and y be the top left of the area to crop
20121103 19:58:33 * AI0867 tries to visualize this
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20121103 19:59:30< mordante> the x and y are the offset from top left of the image
20121103 19:59:49< AI0867> the part we leave or the part we crop away?
20121103 19:59:51< mordante> from that point a rectangle with width crop_w and height crop_h is taken
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20121103 20:00:04< mordante> the part we leave
20121103 20:00:05< AI0867> ah
20121103 20:00:39< AI0867> well, in this particular case, we want y to always be the remaining height of the image
20121103 20:00:45< AI0867> and x to be zero
20121103 20:01:58 * mordante now tries to visualise
20121103 20:02:18< AI0867> after scaling, we want to leave the bottom-left portion of the image
20121103 20:02:27< AI0867> and crop off whatever doesn't fit into the viewbox
20121103 20:03:28< AI0867> where the scaling rule is: don't scale down if the viewport is big enough to accommodate a 500x500 image
20121103 20:03:57< AI0867> if it's not, scale it so that a 500x500 image would fit
20121103 20:05:23< AI0867> the idea here is that in tiny viewports, small portraits don't suddenly look huge compared to scaled big portraits
20121103 20:06:40< AI0867> so, on a 800x480 device (which is the smallest we support I believe), that gives you a vertical resolution of about 450 pixels
20121103 20:06:55< AI0867> horizontal resolution should be sufficient unless people go crazy with new themes
20121103 20:07:22< AI0867> so that means scale everything down 10% and crop off whatever doesn't fit
20121103 20:09:45< mordante> but why do you then need the cropping from the bottom left corner, I think you can achieve the same with my proposal
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20121103 20:11:27< AI0867> mordante: you can, and it is more general
20121103 20:11:54< AI0867> so it's better than my current solution, but I'd rather get it to work first
20121103 20:12:23< mordante> ok
20121103 20:12:53 * AI0867 considers a scale key that just scales the image down...
20121103 20:13:01< AI0867> too much interface design
20121103 20:13:59< mordante> I also wonder how the interaction between scaling and cropping should be
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20121103 20:16:34< AI0867> mordante: first scale then crop?
20121103 20:18:31< mordante> just wonder whether or not it might cause confusion
20121103 20:18:35< mordante> not really sure
20121103 20:19:00< mordante> especially when an image is tiled
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20121103 21:42:35< mordante> I'm off night
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20121103 21:53:19< irker350> wesnoth: elias * r55644 /trunk/data/tools/unit_tree/html_output.py:
20121103 21:53:19< irker350> [units.wesnoth.org] Use full locale names in language selection.
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20121103 22:37:21< anonymissimus> mordante: in which way/why is r55641 now safer as previously; does the i++ create a copy of the iterator, increment it and make that new new i, while it passes the old to erase() ?
20121103 22:38:53< anonymissimus> if so, it makes sense to me...otherwise, it would still increment the iterator which now points to the erased element
20121103 22:41:56< anonymissimus> mordante: also r55643: nice, that's the compiler error I hit when I was forced to update boost because of the bzip2 change
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20121103 23:29:54< AI0867> anonymissimus: what post-increment does is, make a copy, increment yourself, then return the copy
20121103 23:31:16< AI0867> which makes it safe to use in linked lists and such. You'd have to read the documentation to find out about this case
20121103 23:33:30< anonymissimus> AI0867: okay thanks, makes sense
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