--- Log opened Thu Nov 08 01:17:22 2012 20121108 01:17:30-!- lobby [~wesnoth@wesnoth/bot/lobby] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 01:17:30-!- Topic for #wesnoth-dev: 1.11.1 planned for once the hotkey and MP issues are fixed | 187 bugs, 334 feature requests, 15 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20121108 01:17:30-!- Topic set by wesbot [~wesbot@asteria.debian.or.at] [Sun Nov 4 08:20:40 2012] 20121108 01:17:30[Users #wesnoth-dev] 20121108 01:17:30[ [Relic] ] [ csarmi ] [ janebot ] [ shadowm_desktop] 20121108 01:17:30[ AI0867 ] [ ejls ] [ lipkab ] [ shadowm_laptop ] 20121108 01:17:30[ Akihara ] [ elias ] [ lobby ] [ shikadibot ] 20121108 01:17:30[ Alarantalara ] [ Elvish_Pillager] [ loonybot ] [ skyfaller ] 20121108 01:17:30[ alexander__b ] [ Espreon ] [ loonycyborg] [ Smar ] 20121108 01:17:30[ Anakonda ] [ ettin ] [ LordNasty ] [ stikonas ] 20121108 01:17:30[ apoi ] [ exciton ] [ maxy ] [ Tigge ] 20121108 01:17:30[ Arc ] [ fendrin_ ] [ melinath ] [ ToBeFree ] 20121108 01:17:30[ balrog ] [ Gambit ] [ mikhas ] [ vultraz ] 20121108 01:17:30[ boucman_work ] [ happygrue ] [ oldtopman ] [ wesbot ] 20121108 01:17:30[ ChrisOelmueller] [ Ingmar ] [ PolarPanda ] [ yann ] 20121108 01:17:30[ cjhopman ] [ Ivanovic ] [ Rhonda ] [ {V} ] 20121108 01:17:30[ cjhopman__ ] [ iwaim_ ] [ Samual ] 20121108 01:17:30[ crimson_penguin] [ jamit ] [ shadowm ] 20121108 01:17:30-!- Irssi: #wesnoth-dev: Total of 54 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 54 normal] 20121108 01:17:37-!- Channel #wesnoth-dev created Tue Jan 27 06:28:41 2009 20121108 01:17:40-!- Soliton [~Soliton@wesnoth/developer/soliton] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 01:18:36-!- Irssi: Join to #wesnoth-dev was synced in 74 secs 20121108 01:36:12-!- mattsc [~mattsc@d154-20-32-241.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 02:20:42-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.11.1 planned for once the hotkey and MP issues are fixed | 186 bugs, 334 feature requests, 15 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! 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I have a question wrt code signing... 20121108 14:47:29-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@80.171.120.236] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 14:51:56 * Soliton points towards Alarantalara 20121108 15:11:46-!- mattsc [~mattsc@207.230.251.234] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 15:41:18-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 16:14:41-!- LordNasty [~NaSTy@93-43-163-192.ip92.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20121108 16:15:13-!- LordNasty [~NaSTy@93-43-163-192.ip92.fastwebnet.it] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 16:19:23-!- mattsc [~mattsc@207.230.251.234] has quit [Quit: bye] 20121108 16:24:09< Soliton> Rhonda: not much except a big replace of a foreach macro. (which should of course not change behaviour) 20121108 16:26:30-!- LordNasty [~NaSTy@93-43-163-192.ip92.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20121108 16:27:03-!- LordNasty [~NaSTy@93-43-163-192.ip92.fastwebnet.it] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 16:29:48-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20121108 16:30:09< boucman_work> Alarantalara: around ? 20121108 16:41:19-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 16:45:54-!- mattsc [~mattsc@fw.hia.nrc.ca] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 17:04:35-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 17:55:54-!- EdB [~edb@tss37-1-89-82-194-231.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 18:17:16-!- EdB [~edb@tss37-1-89-82-194-231.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20121108 18:27:35-!- boucman_work [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20121108 18:33:17-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Quit: - )] 20121108 18:34:49-!- ancestral [~ancestral@65-128-234-158.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 18:37:00-!- prkc [~negusnyul@dsl51B61C79.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 18:57:11-!- Gambit [~gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 18:57:14-!- EdB [~edb@tss37-1-89-82-194-231.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 19:10:54-!- shadowm_desktop [shadowm@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 19:45:27-!- iwaim_ [~iwaim@gateway.alib.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20121108 19:45:54-!- iwaim_ [~iwaim@2001:2c0:40e:2002:0:4:14:80] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 20:18:55< elias> shadowm: i set TEMP to a folder in the user's home 20121108 20:19:28< elias> while that might make wmlunits (even) slower... the /tmp problem should be fixed 20121108 20:20:08< elias> i'll also monitor the folder and see if any files remain (there shouldn't if it works as intended) 20121108 20:21:28< shadowm> Why should it become slower? 20121108 20:24:05< elias> i thought /tmp is on tmpfs 20121108 20:24:16< Ivanovic> nope, it is not 20121108 20:24:26< elias> ok, no difference then :) 20121108 20:24:27< Ivanovic> we don't have enough memory to make this work nicely! 20121108 20:24:36< shadowm> It is a loop mounted device but I don't know what the backing file is. 20121108 20:25:18< Ivanovic> elias: what about adding a cleanup in the script so that when it tries to rerun at the beginning all old files are purged? 20121108 20:25:32< elias> yes, that will be easy to do now 20121108 20:25:39< Ivanovic> and possibly start the script via some wrapper which catches if it runs and exists successfully or aborts? 20121108 20:25:53< elias> yeah 20121108 20:26:08< elias> i just want to figure out how it can leave files first 20121108 20:26:17< shadowm> Ah, the backing file is a file on the root filesystem. 20121108 20:26:24< elias> but yeah, i'll add that script anway in about a week 20121108 20:28:13< elias> maybe i should use /olddrive 20121108 20:28:17< elias> for the temp dir 20121108 20:28:43< elias> then wmlunits wouldn't compete with all the other stuff accessing the main disk 20121108 20:29:31< shadowm> I don't know myself what that filesystem's purpose is besides being there. 20121108 20:29:46< elias> it's its own physical disk in any case 20121108 20:29:59< shadowm> Yeah. 20121108 20:30:14< elias> i remember something it was installed after some disk failure, with a backup... and then forgotten 20121108 20:30:55< Ivanovic> elias: it was the old drive which we had and which eventually failed 20121108 20:31:07< elias> oh 20121108 20:31:11< shadowm> Is it the actual physical drive, or just a backup of it? 20121108 20:31:14< Ivanovic> it was remounted so that we could restore any still working files but was then forgotten there by our host 20121108 20:31:24< Ivanovic> shadowm: not 100% sure 20121108 20:31:37< Ivanovic> shadowm: but i assume it is the physical drive 20121108 20:31:47< shadowm> If it is the physical drive then it's not reliable for wmlunits' usage. 20121108 20:31:54< Ivanovic> jepp 20121108 20:32:07< Ivanovic> elias: maybe just deactivate wml units unit the new version of the script is ready? 20121108 20:32:27< Ivanovic> since IMO we will survive for one or two weeks without updated unit trees 20121108 20:32:34< shadowm> /backup has more available space than /tmp atm, though, maybe you could use that if it's important. 20121108 20:32:55< Ivanovic> wmlunits is *NOT* important enough to put anything on the backup drive! 20121108 20:33:08< Ivanovic> the backup drive full would be worse than no wmlunits being run 20121108 20:33:12< elias> well, i'm not using /tmp anymore 20121108 20:33:27< shadowm> Yeah, I don't really know what the deal with units.wesnoth.org is besides spoiling those pesky MP people. 20121108 20:33:35< elias> so in the worst case it will use 2GB or so on the main drive now 20121108 20:33:48< Ivanovic> IMO it would be fine if it was run once per week not daily 20121108 20:33:55< elias> true 20121108 20:33:57< shadowm> (I mean, who in their sane minds would want to read about units they haven't found yet in campaigns...) 20121108 20:34:22< shadowm> Anyway it'd be good to exclude whatever directory wmlunits will use from the backup task. 20121108 20:34:48< shadowm> Or otherwise ensure it doesn't leave any files behind and its runtime doesn't intersect with the backup's. 20121108 20:35:06< elias> hm 20121108 20:35:24< elias> yes, you can exclude /home/wesnoth/wmlunits from the backup 20121108 20:35:53< elias> next cronjob would just auto-generate it all anyway 20121108 20:36:35< elias> and it's output get backed up as well due to being in the web folder 20121108 20:57:13-!- EdB [~edb@tss37-1-89-82-194-231.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20121108 20:59:15-!- ancestral [~ancestral@65-128-234-158.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20121108 21:00:03-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20121108 21:00:15-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 21:23:18-!- shadowm_laptop [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 21:26:38-!- shadowm_desktop [shadowm@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Quit: brb] 20121108 21:28:49-!- shadowm_desktop [shadowm@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 21:29:35-!- shadowm_laptop2 [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 21:31:24-!- shadowm_laptop [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20121108 21:32:42-!- shadowm_laptop2 [~ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [Client Quit] 20121108 22:01:15-!- noy_ [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy_] 20121108 22:11:02-!- csarmi [~csarmi@178-164-130-120.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121108 22:25:17< Alarantalara> boucman: I am now. 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