--- Log opened Thu Nov 15 00:00:33 2012
20121115 00:06:21-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20121115 00:29:00-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@d119061.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20121115 00:37:21-!- Crendgrim [~crend@port-92-204-12-127.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
20121115 00:59:12-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Quit: SIGKILL]
20121115 01:08:03-!- stikonas_ is now known as stikonas
20121115 01:16:20-!- PolarPanda [~quassel@unaffiliated/peterporty] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20121115 01:16:49-!- PolarPanda [~quassel@unaffiliated/peterporty] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 01:24:41-!- PolarPanda [~quassel@unaffiliated/peterporty] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20121115 01:44:05-!- mnewton1 [~mnewton1@c-76-99-170-226.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 01:53:13-!- mattsc [~mattsc@fw.hia.nrc.ca] has quit [Quit: I'm asleep]
20121115 02:13:17-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 02:15:04-!- yann [~dwitch@nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20121115 02:18:27-!- yann [~dwitch@nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 02:22:57-!- yann [~dwitch@nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20121115 02:30:55-!- yann [~dwitch@nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 02:35:39-!- ancestral [~ancestral@65-128-234-158.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 02:38:42-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20121115 02:40:28-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20121115 02:46:25-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20121115 02:47:17-!- mattsc [~mattsc@d154-20-32-241.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 02:47:23-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 02:57:39-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 03:12:56-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20121115 03:16:11-!- mnewton1 [~mnewton1@c-76-99-170-226.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Rice and Corn]
20121115 03:43:11-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 04:05:26-!- PolarPanda [~quassel@unaffiliated/peterporty] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 04:06:35-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
20121115 04:10:36-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 04:12:23-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has quit [Changing host]
20121115 04:12:23-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 04:24:56-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@dtmd-4d052aa1.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 04:28:03-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20121115 04:28:50-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic
20121115 04:41:14-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-029.rrw.residences.colby.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
20121115 04:51:39-!- Gambit [~gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20121115 05:48:33-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
20121115 05:48:54-!- mattsc [~mattsc@d154-20-32-241.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: bye]
20121115 06:09:08-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 06:12:37-!- melinath [~melinath@li341-41.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in]
20121115 06:13:18-!- melinath [~melinath@96.126.116.41] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 06:31:11-!- PolarPanda [~quassel@unaffiliated/peterporty] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20121115 06:31:39-!- PolarPanda [~quassel@unaffiliated/peterporty] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 06:40:05-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 07:05:02-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
20121115 07:23:14-!- ancestral [~ancestral@65-128-234-158.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai]
20121115 07:24:59-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 07:44:47-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@dtmd-4d052aa1.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Changing host]
20121115 07:44:47-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 08:17:34-!- PolarPanda [~quassel@unaffiliated/peterporty] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20121115 08:39:43-!- Crendgrim [~crend@port-92-204-63-173.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 08:42:00-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]
20121115 08:44:33-!- Crendgrim [~crend@port-92-204-63-173.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Client Quit]
20121115 08:45:35-!- boucman_work [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 08:52:29-!- irker365 [~irker@ai0867.net] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout]
20121115 08:58:37-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
20121115 08:59:33-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 09:00:32-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20121115 09:17:18-!- happygrue_ [~happygrue@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20121115 09:36:49-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@f053189129.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 10:03:51-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy]
20121115 10:17:51-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20121115 10:29:43-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 11:01:32-!- faabumc [~vcr@wesnoth/developer/faabumc] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
20121115 11:10:25-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 11:30:10-!- happygrue [~happygrue@wesnoth/developer/wintermute] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 11:31:00-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20121115 12:17:24-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@2001:738:5404:192:a120:8616:c9b9:cf6f] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 12:59:23-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@2001:738:5404:192:a120:8616:c9b9:cf6f] has quit [Quit: - )]
20121115 13:38:59-!- loonybot [~loonybot@46.138.80.216] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 13:38:59-!- loonybot [~loonybot@46.138.80.216] has quit [Changing host]
20121115 13:38:59-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 13:54:50-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 13:56:11-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-029.rrw.residences.colby.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 15:05:02< boucman_work> didn't we use to have a compile-time option for low screen res ? I can't find it anymore...
20121115 15:10:07-!- mattsc [~mattsc@207.230.251.234] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 15:23:35< loonycyborg> iirc we made it a runtime option
20121115 15:24:41-!- prkc [~negusnyul@51B7BFDF.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 15:41:38< boucman_work> ok, thx
20121115 15:42:04< boucman_work> (I thought we used imagemagick at build time to reduce the image size, but I might be wrong...)
20121115 15:59:58< Soliton> ("used to" being the important part.)
20121115 16:11:30-!- LordNasty [~NaSTy@93-43-163-150.ip92.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20121115 16:11:51-!- LordNasty [~NaSTy@93-43-163-150.ip92.fastwebnet.it] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 16:16:54-!- mattsc [~mattsc@207.230.251.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20121115 16:22:38-!- Crendgrim [~crend@port-92-204-63-173.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 16:31:53-!- mattsc [~mattsc@fw.hia.nrc.ca] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 17:17:58-!- Skriptkid [~Skriptkid@117.202.62.22] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 17:47:37-!- avinashb [~Thunderbi@117.192.246.149] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 17:49:28-!- Skriptkid [~Skriptkid@117.202.62.22] has left #wesnoth-dev []
20121115 17:50:37< avinashb> hi, is battle for wesnoth for android (http://androthsoft.com/battle/) by any way affiliated with wesnoth.org?
20121115 18:01:26-!- Upthorn [~ogmar@69.62.144.56] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20121115 18:02:25< zookeeper> based on the domain name it's cjhopman's port, http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=36471
20121115 18:02:30< zookeeper> so... i guess so
20121115 18:03:10< zookeeper> you might want to stick around for more details though, since i don't really know anything about the specifics.
20121115 18:03:20-!- Upth [~ogmar@69.62.144.56] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 18:03:20-!- Upth is now known as Upthorn
20121115 18:26:24-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy]
20121115 18:34:45-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 18:38:49< AI0867> boucman_work: we completely removed tinygui
20121115 18:39:54-!- Upthorn [~ogmar@69.62.144.56] has quit [Quit: this quit message is 100% guaranteed not to contain obscenity.]
20121115 18:45:55< mattsc> Ivanovic, noy: I assume the IRC channel where we should discuss GCI tasks with the students is this one?
20121115 18:51:22< mattsc> Alarantalara (and Arc, noy, Ivanovic): I have created a detailed wiki page for the GCI Lua AI tasks: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Google_Code-in_Micro_AI_Tasks#Patrols_.281_AI.29
20121115 18:52:33< mattsc> This is probably overkill if we get somebody with previous WML/Lua experience, but given that students have only 48h per task and that we might get several working on this simultaneously, it might save us a lot of time later.
20121115 18:53:26< mattsc> Oops. Link to the top of the page: wiki.wesnoth.org/Google_Code-in_Micro_AI_Tasks
20121115 18:53:53< mattsc> Grrr, one more time: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Google_Code-in_Micro_AI_Tasks
20121115 18:57:35< Ivanovic> mattsc: yes, most of the gci stuff (almost everything) should be handled in here
20121115 18:57:42< Ivanovic> there is barely anything which can not be in public
20121115 19:02:04-!- Upth [~ogmar@69.62.144.56] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 19:02:04-!- Upth is now known as Upthorn
20121115 19:24:39-!- iwaim_ [~iwaim@2001:2c0:40e:2002:0:4:14:80] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
20121115 19:33:33-!- iwaim_ [~iwaim@2001:2c0:40e:2002:0:4:14:80] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 19:37:26-!- Upthorn [~ogmar@69.62.144.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20121115 19:41:28-!- Upth [~ogmar@69.62.144.56] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 19:41:28-!- Upth is now known as Upthorn
20121115 19:49:17-!- stikonas [~gentoo@bcm-131-111-216-214.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 19:49:18-!- stikonas [~gentoo@bcm-131-111-216-214.girton.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Changing host]
20121115 19:49:18-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 19:52:24-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 19:55:03< Arc> mattsc: my primary concern right now is the titles
20121115 19:55:16< Arc> mattsc: i shortened them, but they're still far too long
20121115 19:55:57< mattsc> Arc: ok, I have no specific attachment to them...
20121115 19:56:01< Arc> also, confusing - if you have 6 tasks of a thing, just label each of them as separate. you don't need to specify their relationship to each other
20121115 19:56:20< Arc> if there's 6 animal ai's, label them predator, prey, etc or however they are in lua
20121115 19:56:54< Arc> you can put in each description "if one of these has been done already, base your work on that one and re-parameterize it"
20121115 19:57:46< Arc> you can see roughly what the task will look like now on http://gci.copyleftgames.org/tasks/lua-ai_animals_parameterize2-micro-ai.xhtml once its published, except there's going to be a grey box in the title that makes the title area even smaller
20121115 19:58:38< Arc> 'Convert "Prey" to MicroAI' would be awesome, for example
20121115 19:58:54-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20121115 19:59:12< mattsc> Alright, no problem. Do you want me to change the wesnoth.xml file again?
20121115 19:59:41< Arc> or even 'MicroAI "Prey"'
20121115 19:59:52< mattsc> Sure.
20121115 19:59:54< Arc> and keep in mind they'll be displayed in alphabetical order
20121115 19:59:56< Arc> sure.
20121115 20:00:17< Arc> the xslt adds "Wesnoth: " to the task title so don't add that part :-)
20121115 20:00:31< mattsc> :)
20121115 20:00:34< mattsc> I can do that this afternoon/evening
20121115 20:00:44< Arc> make sure to do a "hg pull -u" before you start, a lot has changed
20121115 20:01:36< Arc> also since you have so many, you want to create a tag for microai? need a 64x64 icon, a url to point to, put the icon in gci/img/icons and add the tag bit to templates/tasks.xslt
20121115 20:01:49< Arc> or a tag for WML possibly
20121115 20:03:21< mattsc> Hmm, I'm no good with graphics, so if somebody has a suggestion ...
20121115 20:03:55< mattsc> Also, you mean an html ![]()
tag, or is there something specific?
20121115 20:04:58< mattsc> Oh, the thing like the lua tag on the draft page? Ok, I can figure out how to replicate that. :)
20121115 20:05:22< Arc> no do you see the "tags" box on the side? im not done with that, but if you put in the tags section of a task, the tasks.xslt will look through a case block looking for what href to point it to, etc
20121115 20:05:41< mattsc> Right, sorry, I'm too slow...
20121115 20:05:59< Arc> "tags" is a google thing, an actual field in the tasks display, but it'll also add it to the task description html automatically when the tasks are generated
20121115 20:06:38< Arc> there'll be a bit more work on this before pushing to google, but almost there
20121115 20:07:09< Arc> mattsc: use a wesnoth logo then, or something iconic of wesnoth
20121115 20:08:05< mattsc> Arc: that's what I was thinking. If I do that in a couple hours, is that soon enough?
20121115 20:08:35< Arc> if in the next day its good enough
20121115 20:09:23< mattsc> Ok, I'll definitely do it before the end of the day.
20121115 20:18:47< Arc> ive got a bit more to do
20121115 20:19:00< mattsc> Arc: one more question: do you have a preference for listing similar tasks or tasks that depend on each other together?
20121115 20:19:09< Arc> alphabetical order
20121115 20:19:22< mattsc> Right, that's what I am getting at...
20121115 20:19:30< Arc> beyond that, no :-)
20121115 20:19:54< mattsc> Create 'X' AI and Generalize 'X' AI does one way
20121115 20:20:10< Arc> tho in the task descriptions i think you'll capture more students with a code example showing, very very briefly, the old vs new code.
20121115 20:20:12< mattsc> 'X" AI: Create and 'X' AI: Generalize does the other
20121115 20:21:10< Arc> 'Wesnoth: MicroAI Animal "Prey"' would group all the animal ai's together
20121115 20:21:31< Arc> i have it adding the project to the title first so keep, eg, all the wesnoth's together
20121115 20:21:44< mattsc> Yes, but there are 2 tasks for every AI. Anyways, don't worry about it. I'll figure out something.
20121115 20:22:17< Arc> or just make them the same title but "1" or "2" added to the end
20121115 20:22:34< mattsc> Yeah, I've been thinking about that too.
20121115 20:22:45< mattsc> Anyways, I need to be off now. ttyl.
20121115 20:22:47< Arc> if one is expected to be done before the other
20121115 20:23:01< Arc> you can describe what "Step 1" and "Step 2" are in their descriptions
20121115 20:23:04< Arc> me too
20121115 20:42:42< jamit> Anyone know what the status of "--smallgui" should be? It looks like the last function of this command line argument was removed in 1.9.5, but the argument is still recognized.
20121115 20:43:11< jamit> (I was looking at old bugs and came across https://gna.org/bugs/?func=detailitem&item_id=19205 which seems to be no longer applicable.)
20121115 21:13:28< zookeeper> i presume the issue of the android port's homepage apparently not having a link to the source code has been discussed somewhere, but i'm failing to find the thread. anyone remember?
20121115 21:18:03-!- ancestral [~ancestral@65-128-234-158.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 21:58:20-!- Upthorn [~ogmar@69.62.144.56] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20121115 21:59:02-!- Upth [~ogmar@69.62.144.56] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 21:59:02-!- Upth is now known as Upthorn
20121115 22:01:21-!- cjhopman_ [cjhopman@nat/google/x-qrmhvmaqbuesiwod] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 22:06:07-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Quit: - )]
20121115 22:09:22-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy]
20121115 22:10:36-!- prkc [~negusnyul@51B7BFDF.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20121115 22:20:42-!- Upthorn [~ogmar@69.62.144.56] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20121115 22:23:19-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 22:24:16-!- Upth [~ogmar@69.62.144.56] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 22:24:16-!- Upth is now known as Upthorn
20121115 22:40:08< mattsc> Arc: how about http://gci.copyleftgames.org/tasks/mai_patrol1.xhtml and http://gci.copyleftgames.org/tasks/mai_patrol2.xhtml
20121115 22:40:35< mattsc> Please also click on the "detailed instructions" link in there, there's a lot more on the tasks available there.
20121115 22:42:13< mattsc> Now if I could only figure out why the Wesnoth icon is not showing ...
20121115 22:45:54< Arc> did you hg add?
20121115 22:46:33< Arc> nope. try hg add img/icons/wesnoth.png then commit/push
20121115 22:47:58< Arc> _hg reports hg pushes to the gci repo to #pysoy and #copyleftgames - i can add #wesnoth-dev if you like, or you can join that, it shows which files were included, url to the changeset/diff, etc
20121115 22:49:05< mattsc> Ah, thanks. I joined #copyleftgames.
20121115 22:49:16< mattsc> Sorry, never used hg before ...
20121115 22:50:33< mattsc> Yes, that worked. Thanks.
20121115 22:54:41-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@rrcs-184-75-105-187.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 22:54:42-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@rrcs-184-75-105-187.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Changing host]
20121115 22:54:42-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 22:57:56< Arc> and yea the title looks small enough even once the grey block gets added
20121115 22:58:00< Arc> ill get that in tonight
20121115 22:58:26< Arc> if the title is longer it'll wrap to a second line, not end of the world
20121115 22:58:52< mattsc> Arc: I've only done the Patrol MAI so far. I won't have time for the rest until tonight.
20121115 22:59:04< Arc> no problem
20121115 22:59:22< mattsc> I just wanted to see if this is generally agreeable before having to change it again for everything
20121115 22:59:37< Arc> yea and by tonight i should have the grey box added so you can test wrapping
20121115 22:59:59< mattsc> cool. (I'm in the same time zone as Google, btw)
20121115 23:00:07< Arc> heh im eastern
20121115 23:12:21-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
20121115 23:24:11-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20121115 23:30:06-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 23:32:12-!- Gambit [~gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 23:49:37-!- irker883 [~irker@ai0867.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20121115 23:49:37< irker883> wesnoth: jamit * r55698 /trunk/src/ (display.cpp display.hpp):
20121115 23:49:37< irker883> wesnoth: Remove some vestigial documentation from tinygui.
20121115 23:49:37< irker883> wesnoth: There is also a remnant in preferences_display.cpp, where
20121115 23:49:37< irker883> wesnoth: two resolution options below 800x480 are in a hardcoded
20121115 23:49:37< irker883> wesnoth: list (scr_modes), but I do not know if there might be a
20121115 23:49:37< irker883> wesnoth: reason to keep those.
20121115 23:50:47-!- mattsc [~mattsc@fw.hia.nrc.ca] has quit [Quit: bye]
20121115 23:50:47< jamit> ^ Out of curiosity, I had done a grep for "tiny". :)
--- Log closed Fri Nov 16 00:00:03 2012