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Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20121125 17:38:07-!- Topic set by wesbot [~wesbot@asteria.debian.or.at] [Sun Nov 25 14:20:41 2012] 20121125 17:38:07[Users #wesnoth-dev] 20121125 17:38:16[ [Relic] ] [ ChrisOelmueller] [ Espreon ] [ iwaim_ ] [ melinath ] [ Soliton ] 20121125 17:38:16[ AI0867 ] [ cjhopman_ ] [ esr ] [ jamit ] [ neofutur ] [ stikonas ] 20121125 17:38:16[ Akihara ] [ crimson_penguin] [ ettin_ ] [ janebot ] [ noy ] [ Tigge ] 20121125 17:38:16[ Anakonda_ ] [ csarmi_home ] [ exciton ] [ knotwork ] [ prkc ] [ ToBeFree ] 20121125 17:38:16[ apoi ] [ DpEpsilon ] [ Gallaecio] [ lipkab ] [ Rhonda ] [ Upthorn ] 20121125 17:38:16[ Appleman1234] [ EdB_ ] [ Gambit ] [ lobby ] [ rtfb ] [ vultraz ] 20121125 17:38:16[ Arc ] [ ejls ] [ grzywacz ] [ loonybot ] [ Samual ] [ wesbot ] 20121125 17:38:16[ balrog ] [ elias ] [ happygrue] [ loonycyborg] [ shikadibot] [ yann ] 20121125 17:38:23[ boucman ] [ Elvish_Pillager] [ Ingmar ] [ mattsc ] [ skyfaller ] [ zookeeper] 20121125 17:38:23[ boucman_work] [ enchilado ] [ Ivanovic ] [ maxy ] [ Smar ] [ {V} ] 20121125 17:38:23-!- Irssi: #wesnoth-dev: Total of 60 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 60 normal] 20121125 17:38:23!niven.freenode.net [freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp 20121125 17:38:32-!- Channel #wesnoth-dev created Tue Jan 27 06:28:41 2009 20121125 17:39:29-!- Irssi: Join to #wesnoth-dev was synced in 104 secs 20121125 18:11:55-!- EdB_ [~edb@tss37-1-89-82-194-231.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20121125 18:32:55-!- mnewton1 [~mnewton1@c-76-99-170-226.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 18:42:49-!- mnewton1 [~mnewton1@c-76-99-170-226.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Rice and Corn] 20121125 19:04:21-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20121125 19:24:38-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20121125 19:26:42-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@ool-43551edd.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 19:26:42-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@ool-43551edd.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Changing host] 20121125 19:26:42-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 19:48:19-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 19:53:09-!- Crendgrim [~crend@port-92-204-105-88.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 20:07:49-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has quit [Quit: :wq] 20121125 20:12:45-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20121125 20:19:33-!- molgrum [~molgrum@h-234-143.a189.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 20:20:13-!- oldtopman [~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 20:30:11-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 20:48:33-!- prkc [~negusnyul@51B7BFDF.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20121125 20:51:03-!- dcw [5000068c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.0.6.140] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 21:00:30-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20121125 21:00:46-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 21:01:45-!- mnewton1 [~mnewton1@206.231.99.200] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 21:04:12-!- dcw [5000068c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.0.6.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20121125 21:18:03-!- mnewton1 [~mnewton1@206.231.99.200] has quit [Quit: Rice and Corn] 20121125 21:18:09-!- Bob_The_Mighty [~chatzilla@cpc4-brig16-2-0-cust378.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 21:23:19-!- mnewton1 [~mnewton1@206.231.99.200] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 21:45:36-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Quit: - )] 20121125 21:47:17-!- DaCurrlyWon [5000068c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.0.6.140] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 21:48:34< DaCurrlyWon> Hi I have a noob qu or two regarding an addon that I would like to update that has been put on the one that needs updating etc... 20121125 21:49:16< DaCurrlyWon> 1: should I wait until I'm given the go ahead from the previous maintainer before doing lots of work on it? 20121125 21:50:25< DaCurrlyWon> 2: There are images held inside the addon that are now available inside mainline should I remove these and use the ones held there? 20121125 21:52:57< Espreon> 1. Yeah, you should wait for a reasonable amount of time for the maintainer to get back to you. If so much time has passed and you got no response, I'd say go ahead... I think. 20121125 21:53:08< Espreon> 2. Yes. 20121125 21:54:18< DaCurrlyWon> 1: ok well he put it up 2 months ago .... I only sent him a pm yesterday so I'll start slow... 20121125 21:55:28< DaCurrlyWon> 2: I can see how he has linked to the images inside is there somewhere that tells me the generic path for wesnoth across all platforms? 20121125 21:58:05< Espreon> As long as the game can find the core data directory, you don't need to worry about it. 20121125 22:00:34< DaCurrlyWon> Erm ... ok? well hes using the wood elves which is easy in that case because they are in the core....... but the desert elves are still held inside UtBS would I still need to keep those? 20121125 22:00:48< Espreon> Yes. 20121125 22:00:52< Espreon> Uh... 20121125 22:00:59< Espreon> ... sorry if that's flashing. 20121125 22:01:05< Espreon> (IDK why that's happening...) 20121125 22:01:37< Espreon> But yeah, you should not assume that the mainline campaigns will always be present. 20121125 22:02:35< Espreon> So, keep stuff from mainline campaigns in the add-on. 20121125 22:03:50< DaCurrlyWon> ok... :) 20121125 22:05:47< DaCurrlyWon> Well IMHO the desert elves should be moved into core they are almost complete now and there are other addons that use them wouldn't it be nice to have one working copy instead of lots of hanging around? 20121125 22:11:30-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.217.231.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20121125 22:15:03-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.217.231.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 22:16:07< DaCurrlyWon> arr I can't find where the story starts from.... before the first scenario - it is missing an image or two and I thought I would start at the beginning and meh that is before the start... it's not in the _main or any of the other obvious places any hints? 20121125 22:17:27< zookeeper> of course, if you want to use the UtBS sprites, you can wrap your whole campaign inside an #ifhave which checks whether UtBS is installed 20121125 22:17:43< zookeeper> but then people without UtBS still couldn't play 20121125 22:18:23< zookeeper> as for your latest question, i don't really know what you're asking about 20121125 22:20:16-!- mnewton1 [~mnewton1@206.231.99.200] has quit [Quit: Rice and Corn] 20121125 22:26:06< DaCurrlyWon> ok.... will leave the desert elves in for now as don't want to do anything major.... 20121125 22:28:44< DaCurrlyWon> as for the latest qu... before the 1st scenario loads there is a little story which uses some pics sometimes there is no picture showing so I'm assuming it is a bug in the preload or something only it's not there as I can't see the link to the 2 pics that do turn up! 20121125 22:29:58< DaCurrlyWon> btw it is the settlers of light and you (zookeeper) are credited with some of it :P as are some of the other greats (like kitty.... etc) 20121125 22:30:59-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 22:31:33< zookeeper> you mean you can't find the WML for the story screen in which there are missing images? 20121125 22:31:52< DaCurrlyWon> ^^yep 20121125 22:32:13< zookeeper> if it's not in the scenario file, look in utils or macros 20121125 22:32:17< bumbadadabum> it's in story.cfg 20121125 22:32:24< bumbadadabum> in the utils folder 20121125 22:32:25< bumbadadabum> IIRC 20121125 22:33:28< zookeeper> and find yourself a free grep app from somewhere, if you intend on doing any considerable amount of WML work :p 20121125 22:33:49< DaCurrlyWon> arr .... I'm so blind! thanks! 20121125 22:35:52< DaCurrlyWon> I'm using wordpad - which seems to do the job ;) 20121125 22:36:30< Espreon> (Hoo boy...) 20121125 22:39:38-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@89-67-172-243.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 22:39:38-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@89-67-172-243.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Changing host] 20121125 22:39:38-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 22:46:21-!- Bob_The_Mighty [~chatzilla@cpc4-brig16-2-0-cust378.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 16.0.2/20121024073032]] 20121125 22:55:32-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20121125 23:06:22-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 23:08:37-!- Cookie [~quassel@60-240-54-150.tpgi.com.au] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 23:08:37-!- Cookie [~quassel@60-240-54-150.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Changing host] 20121125 23:08:37-!- Cookie [~quassel@unaffiliated/cookiee] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 23:14:27< DaCurrlyWon> ok it was not a bug he left that section blank... but seeing as I like having background pictures I've put them in.... 20121125 23:16:42< DaCurrlyWon> At the end of that section of the story he calls an image in a black with the line ' file="story/map.png" ' which seems wired not commented out or anything but naught shows up on my screen... is that a bug the map.png is not included in the zip... 20121125 23:18:10< bumbadadabum> It's probably not there because I never thought to include it 20121125 23:18:42-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@g224176196.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 23:21:45< DaCurrlyWon> ^^ arr bumdadadabum you'r about do you mind if I have a go at getting SoL working again? 20121125 23:22:05-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.217.231.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20121125 23:27:04-!- YogiHH [~YogiHH@d096180.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 23:27:04-!- YogiHH [~YogiHH@d096180.adsl.hansenet.de] has quit [Changing host] 20121125 23:27:04-!- YogiHH [~YogiHH@wesnoth/developer/yogihh] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 23:29:31-!- un214 [~un214@adsl-108-204-254-2.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 23:32:56-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: GO TO SLEEP] 20121125 23:35:32-!- un214 [~un214@adsl-108-204-254-2.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20121125 23:47:31< DaCurrlyWon> >quit: night all 20121125 23:48:04-!- DaCurrlyWon [5000068c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.0.6.140] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20121125 23:50:46-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20121125 23:50:54-!- irker808 [~irker@ai0867.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20121125 23:50:54< irker808> wesnoth: jamit * r55764 /trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): 20121125 23:50:55< irker808> wesnoth: Store last_recruit_ in team, rather than in menu_handler (better for hotseat games). --- Log closed Mon Nov 26 00:00:00 2012