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20121107 02:56:03< irker687> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r16158 /trunk/After_the_Storm/images/ (23 files in 9 dirs): 
20121107 02:56:04< irker687> wesnoth-umc-dev: AtS: wesnoth-optipng pass
20121107 02:56:04< irker687> wesnoth-umc-dev: Overall statistics (only for files with a smaller recompressed size):
20121107 02:56:05< irker687> wesnoth-umc-dev:   Original size: 106 KiB on 23 files
20121107 02:56:05< irker687> wesnoth-umc-dev:  Optimized size: 90 KiB
20121107 02:56:06< irker687> wesnoth-umc-dev:    Total saving: 16 KiB = 15% decrease
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20121107 04:29:40< Alarantalara> skyfaller: I have a question about Howling Ghost Badlands and the AI
20121107 04:29:46< skyfaller> what's that?
20121107 04:30:22< Alarantalara> If the AI gets a 6 MP leader, there are two keeps it can reach in two turns. One is closer to the enemy, and the other lets it capture a village
20121107 04:30:27< Alarantalara> which one should it prefer?
20121107 04:30:56< skyfaller> that depends on whether you will use a rush strategy or not :P
20121107 04:31:21< Alarantalara> The one with the village also has more space to recruit
20121107 04:31:41< skyfaller> well, it shouldn't matter b/c you hit the middle keep first
20121107 04:31:55< skyfaller> between the two keeps, you should be able to expend most of your gold
20121107 04:31:56< Alarantalara> you don't have to if you have a 6 mp leader
20121107 04:32:10< Alarantalara> it's only 12 hexes to the top keep
20121107 04:32:11< skyfaller> oh, I see
20121107 04:32:12< skyfaller> hm
20121107 04:32:22< skyfaller> I've never skipped the middle keep, put it that way
20121107 04:32:36< skyfaller> I always grab the village and do my recruit
20121107 04:32:53< Alarantalara> I'm just wondering if it's because it's better to do so, or if it's not something we would even consider
20121107 04:32:58< skyfaller> because you can't really get enough space on the 3-hex keep to do all of your recruits
20121107 04:33:07< skyfaller> you need to hit the middle keep to cover both sides
20121107 04:33:33< Alarantalara> Also, oddly enough, the village distribution is such that it's not a terrible idea
20121107 04:33:35< skyfaller> recruiting on your initial keep to send units to the other side is a losing move, most of your units will be too slow and you lose gold/upkeep waiting for them to walk to the front
20121107 04:34:08< skyfaller> I dunno, I'd have to play some games on it to see if skipping the middle keep makes sense
20121107 04:34:27< skyfaller> like I said, I've never skipped it, hitting it always looked more efficient
20121107 04:34:41< skyfaller> but it might be worth doing once just to shock the enemy
20121107 04:34:50< skyfaller> by showing up in their face much earlier than expected
20121107 04:34:53< skyfaller> with your leader
20121107 04:35:19< skyfaller> I just don't think it's usually the most optimal strategy, but I couldn't tell you why without playing a game
20121107 04:36:15< Alarantalara> Can I get you to try it if you get a 6mp leader on that map sometime?
20121107 04:36:36< skyfaller> sure
20121107 04:43:52< Alarantalara> looking at the map carefully, it looks like you end up having to recruit an extra unit at the first keep, but in exchange you can get all the villages by turn 3 with one less scout
20121107 04:44:18< skyfaller> hm....
20121107 04:44:41< skyfaller> I just have to see it / play it
20121107 04:44:44< skyfaller> I don't remember well enough
20121107 04:45:07< Alarantalara> of course the AI foolishly recruits a full first keep making this discussion pointless
20121107 05:09:58< irker687> AI-Demos: mattsc master * r60c55cd / (5 files in 3 dirs): move ai_helper.simulate_combat_* functions to battle_calcs - http://git.io/07gMiw
20121107 05:15:50< irker687> AI-Demos: mattsc master * raf2c593 / (3 files): Move ai_helper.attack_combo_stats and attack_rating to battle_calcs - http://git.io/1ylKaw
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20121107 05:20:06< irker687> AI-Demos: Alarantalara master * r68390ce / lua/generic-recruit_engine.lua : Smooth moves score - http://git.io/a1KV4Q
20121107 05:20:07< irker687> AI-Demos: Alarantalara master * r2a0ae5c / lua/generic-recruit_engine.lua : Add get_reacable_villages function - http://git.io/LXEhYw
20121107 05:20:08< irker687> AI-Demos: Alarantalara master * r74684c2 / lua/generic-recruit_engine.lua : Revert "Smooth moves score" - http://git.io/7iQNkg
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