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20121120 03:19:31< Gambomaster> vultraz_gambit: http://memegenerator.net/instance/30498543
20121120 03:21:18< Gambomaster> uh oh
20121120 03:21:21< Gambomaster> 1.10.5 tagged
20121120 03:21:52< Gambomaster> oh and released and announced
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20121120 04:32:10< Gambomaster> &What is love? &vultraz_gambit
20121120 04:32:13< Gambomaster> er
20121120 04:32:20< Gambomaster> &What is love? @vultraz_gambit
20121120 04:32:20< janebot> vultraz_gambit: Baby don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No more.
20121120 04:32:34< Gambomaster> ^Five minutes of programming well spent.
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20121120 13:57:04< Azeal> is anyone available to help with a few Lua question?
20121120 13:58:19< celticminstrel> I could try, I suppose...
20121120 13:59:34< Azeal> I am trying to play music, but only on one client
20121120 13:59:57< celticminstrel> Multiplayer?
20121120 14:00:05< Azeal> yes
20121120 14:01:36< celticminstrel> Hm, not sure if I can help with that… obviously if you do it from a non-synced event such as select event, but that might not work for your purposes. (And would it lead to desync errors?)
20121120 14:03:11< Azeal> its from a menu item followed by a message option, fortunately I don't think music can cause OOS errors
20121120 14:03:40< celticminstrel> Are options synced? I would've thought they are, but can't remember...
20121120 14:04:04< Azeal> yep
20121120 14:04:43< celticminstrel> So what you want may be impossible.
20121120 14:05:02< Azeal> does local function limit the action to a single client?
20121120 14:05:08< zookeeper> no
20121120 14:05:12< zookeeper> the only way i can think of is using select events
20121120 14:05:27< celticminstrel> Yeah, select events would work.
20121120 14:06:48< celticminstrel> But as I said, that doesn't sound like it fits what you want.
20121120 14:06:51< zookeeper> and yes, changing the music doesn't lead to OOS
20121120 14:07:57< Azeal> the problem is I can't think of a way to do it with a select event
20121120 14:10:39< zookeeper> well, if the choice must be available even before the player has selected any units, then... you're out of luck
20121120 14:11:19< zookeeper> the only way is to delay the choice (whether you use a menu item or not) until the player has selected a unit
20121120 14:12:29< celticminstrel> If the choice is solely selecting music, yes.
20121120 14:12:38< Azeal> hm, so basically I can just place the set_menu_item in a select event?
20121120 14:12:52< celticminstrel> …that doesn't sound right?
20121120 14:12:57< Azeal> and the command should only run on the executing client?
20121120 14:13:10< zookeeper> yes
20121120 14:13:20< celticminstrel> Really? Okay then?
20121120 14:13:49< zookeeper> select events trigger only on the local client, with the use of [set_menu_item] needs_select=yes being an exception
20121120 14:15:17< zookeeper> i suppose you could check whether [message] side_for= limits the actions of options to the given side's client only, but i don't think it does. easy to test just to make sure, though.
20121120 14:15:29< Azeal> I tried that ^_^
20121120 14:15:45< zookeeper> oh, right.
20121120 14:16:06< Azeal> hm...
20121120 14:18:32< Azeal> ok, Ill try the select event. Thanks for the help guys =D
20121120 14:19:17< Azeal> one question
20121120 14:19:49< Azeal> wouldn't the select event set the menu item, and then any prior commands made from the item still sync?
20121120 14:20:04< Azeal> *not prior, following
20121120 14:20:11< zookeeper> no, because the menu item hasn't been created on the other clients
20121120 14:21:02< Azeal> but as soon as they select a unit wont it be? or will the menu item only exist as long as a unit is selected?
20121120 14:21:40< zookeeper> hmh. ok, you might want to give each side's menu item a unique id=
20121120 14:22:08< zookeeper> they should get it automatically, but in theory they could clash and i don't know how the id generation works.
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20121120 14:22:45< zookeeper> so id=jukebox_$side_number or whatever
20121120 14:23:50< Azeal> cool cool, I shall give that a go. Thank you =)
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20121120 14:33:27< Azeal> it works
20121120 14:33:36< Azeal> but it does create an OOS report
20121120 14:33:49< Azeal> it probably wont crash the game or anything though
20121120 14:33:56< Azeal> thank you =)
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20121120 14:43:46< Rackmount> It's official. I'm addicted to this game now. :)
20121120 14:44:01< celticminstrel> Uh-oh. :P
20121120 14:45:03< Rackmount> I was wondering, in general, is it a relatively good strategy to keep your main characters close to the keep and sending out recruits to fight? I'm sorry if this is a stupid question. I'm traditionally an FPS gamer, and I've only recently started getting into RTS/TB strategy games.
20121120 14:46:03< celticminstrel> Campaigns?
20121120 14:46:19< Rackmount> celticminstrel: aye.
20121120 14:46:19< celticminstrel> Or multiplayer?
20121120 14:46:38< celticminstrel> Okay, then that's probably not ideal, since you want to level your main characters.
20121120 14:46:42< Rackmount> Campaign mode. I doubt I'm ready for multiplayer at this point. :)
20121120 14:46:45< celticminstrel> (At least your leader.)
20121120 14:46:57< Rackmount> Yeah, that's the quandry I kept finding myself in.
20121120 14:46:59< celticminstrel> (Other main characters may already be maxed out, such as Delfador.)
20121120 14:47:12< celticminstrel> Heh.
20121120 14:47:27< celticminstrel> I'm probably not the best person to ask for strategy though.
20121120 14:47:51< Rackmount> celticminstrel: No worries. I appreciate the advice. 
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