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20121123 02:18:03< Appleman1234> I wonder is the new stable supposed to ignore my locale settings ?
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20121123 02:18:20< Espreon> Probably not.
20121123 02:18:44< Espreon> What's happening?
20121123 02:18:55< celticminstrel> I would assume ignoring your locale settings is never an intended thing. :P
20121123 02:22:00< Appleman1234> Espreon, my locale is set to ja_JP.UTF-8 everywhere, 1.10.4 had most things in Japanese, 1.10.5 seems to have everything in English, Language from Language menu is set to System default, changing it to Japanese, doesn't seem to change anything 
20121123 02:22:30< Espreon> How are you launching the game?
20121123 02:22:58< Appleman1234> typing wesnoth in a command prompt
20121123 02:23:10< Espreon> Does ./wesnoth -L ja_JP do anything?
20121123 02:23:15< Espreon> Well...
20121123 02:23:20< Espreon> wesnoth -L ja_JP
20121123 02:23:30< Espreon> Sorry, I'm used to launching it from a specific directory.
20121123 02:24:12< Appleman1234> Both result in English still
20121123 02:25:26< Espreon> What OS are you using? Some Linux distro?
20121123 02:25:33< Appleman1234> Gentoo Linux 
20121123 02:26:02< Espreon> Try wesnoth -L es_ES
20121123 02:26:18< Espreon> ... Is the game in Spanish?
20121123 02:26:47< Appleman1234> language symbol not found, can not initialise the language
20121123 02:27:05< Espreon> ... That's... odd.
20121123 02:27:41< Appleman1234> Do you want me to generate a non english locale, and run locale-gen and then try again ?
20121123 02:27:48< Espreon> Did you delete everything but en_US.cfg and ja_JP.cfg?
20121123 02:28:11< Espreon> ... You shouldn't need a locale to switch the game's language.
20121123 02:28:13< Espreon> ... but... OK.
20121123 02:28:16< Espreon> See if that does anything.
20121123 02:32:36< Appleman1234> No change
20121123 02:34:12< Espreon> Hmmm...
20121123 02:34:41< Espreon> Go to <Wesnoth_root>/data/languages
20121123 02:34:43< Espreon> ls
20121123 02:34:53< Espreon> Tell if es_ES.cfg is there.
20121123 02:34:56< Espreon> *me if
20121123 02:35:56< Appleman1234> ls /usr/share/games/wesnoth/data/languages/es_ES.cfg 
20121123 02:35:56< Appleman1234> /usr/share/games/wesnoth/data/languages/es_ES.cfg
20121123 02:37:23< Appleman1234> when I try and change languages to languages that aren't system default, it says warning setlocale failed, then warning setting language but it doesn't change the text
20121123 02:38:01< Espreon> The setclocale warnings don't matter.
20121123 02:38:09< Espreon> OK... go to...
20121123 02:38:15< Espreon> /usr/share/games/wesnoth/translations
20121123 02:38:19< Espreon> Is anything inside?
20121123 02:39:25< Appleman1234> I don't have that directory
20121123 02:40:35< Espreon> Hmmmmmm...
20121123 02:40:44< Espreon> Go to...
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20121123 02:41:28< Espreon> /usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES
20121123 02:41:42< Espreon> Is there any Wesnoth stuff in there?
20121123 02:42:59< Appleman1234> nothing there
20121123 02:43:20< Espreon> OK... lemme actually install Wesnoth and see where it puts the translation stuff.
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20121123 02:45:52< Espreon> OK, I'm too impatient for that since I apparently have to rebuild stuff.
20121123 02:46:15< Espreon> Appleman1234: It probably doesn't compile the translations or put them in the right place.
20121123 02:46:45< Appleman1234> ok
20121123 02:47:18< Espreon> So, I suggest that you download a 1.10.5 tarball, compile the translations yourself and put them in /usr/share/games/wesnoth/
20121123 02:47:25< Appleman1234> has that place changed since 1.10.4 ? because the previous version worked fine
20121123 02:47:37< Espreon> Of course, when compiled, they'll all be in a directory named "translations".
20121123 02:47:37< Espreon> No.
20121123 02:47:41< Espreon> It's a stable.
20121123 02:47:46< Espreon> Stuff like that doesn't change.
20121123 02:47:51< Appleman1234> ok
20121123 02:48:03< Appleman1234> I guess I file a gentoo packaging bug then, thanks
20121123 02:48:03< Narrat> usr/share/wesnoth/translations/ ?
20121123 02:48:54< Espreon> Appleman1234: Yeah, check to see if anything's there ^
20121123 02:49:15< Espreon> If there is stuff there, you can symlink for now.
20121123 02:51:25< Appleman1234> No
20121123 02:52:05< Espreon> Yeah, then it looks like a "packaging" issue.
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20121123 03:11:49< freaksV20> hello 
20121123 03:12:32< Espreon> Hello.
20121123 03:12:55< freaksV20> hey I need a little help with wesnoth
20121123 03:13:12< Espreon> OK. What's troubling you?
20121123 03:14:29< freaksV20> I haven''t played in like 6 months I had the 1.8 but some how it got buggy and I can't find my install
20121123 03:14:56< freaksV20> if I take the 1.10 will it use my old data
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20121123 03:15:24< Espreon> Assuming everything's in the right place, it should.
20121123 03:16:02< freaksV20> ok good I was in the middle of a story when I stopped
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20121123 03:16:18< Espreon> If it doesn't, try moving it to where your copy of 1.10 looks for it.
20121123 03:16:40< freaksV20> how good is the 1.10.4
20121123 03:17:20< Espreon> It's good... I guess.
20121123 03:17:31< freaksV20> oh ok
20121123 03:17:31< Espreon> I don't use 1.10.x, so I can't really comment, heh.
20121123 03:17:41< freaksV20> oh no 
20121123 03:17:51< Espreon> Oh no?
20121123 03:17:54< Espreon> Why oh no?
20121123 03:18:13< freaksV20> has any try out 1.10.4
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20121123 03:18:26< Espreon> Probably...
20121123 03:19:33< freaksV20> I got cought up with college and it went bad on me 
20121123 03:19:41< Espreon> Oh, too bad.
20121123 03:19:45< freaksV20> main menu lock 
20121123 03:19:47< Gambit> &What is love? @Espreon
20121123 03:19:48< janebot> Espreon: Baby don't hurt me. Don't hurt me. No more.
20121123 03:19:56< Espreon> Gambit: ... Why?
20121123 03:19:58< Gambit> Espreon: How was your thanksgiving?
20121123 03:20:04< Espreon> ... It was... fine, I guess.
20121123 03:20:13< freaksV20> love is another bill 
20121123 03:20:14< Espreon> I didn't eat much.
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20121123 03:20:26< Gambit> You shoulda come over mate. We played a big game of agricola and had delicious home-made bread stuffing.
20121123 03:20:42< Espreon> Maybe I would have if I had a friggin' teleporter.
20121123 03:20:44< Gambit> Which is to say homemade stuffing made of homemade bread.
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20121123 03:21:09< freaksV20> sound good gambit
20121123 03:21:31< Espreon> For food, I really only care for Easter.
20121123 03:21:37< Espreon> ... 'cause we get to eat barszcz.
20121123 03:22:04< Gambit> Eat what?
20121123 03:22:13< Espreon> It's a Polish thing.
20121123 03:22:31< Espreon> And it's pronounced "bahrshch", BTW.
20121123 03:22:45< Gambit> jeb jeb
20121123 03:23:08< Espreon> But it's "jeß jeß".
20121123 03:23:13< Gambit> lol
20121123 03:23:14< Espreon> Some "German" you are.
20121123 03:23:40< Gambit> It's true. I don't even like sauerkraut
20121123 03:23:41< freaksV20> oh hey Espreon are you older then 20 
20121123 03:23:50< Espreon> ... Uh... maybe.
20121123 03:23:51< Espreon> Why?
20121123 03:23:57< Gambit> Espreon is like 12.
20121123 03:24:08< Espreon> Yar.
20121123 03:24:23< Gambit> He's the most grammar-aware 12 year old you will ever meet.
20121123 03:24:27< Appleman1234> hehe
20121123 03:24:28< Espreon> Indeed.
20121123 03:24:32< freaksV20> you might know what I'm talking about, I'm getting a mame cabinet for xmas
20121123 03:24:43< Espreon> ... Uh... what?
20121123 03:25:00< freaksV20> do you know what a mame is 
20121123 03:25:09< Espreon> En inglés, por favor.
20121123 03:25:10< Appleman1234> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAME
20121123 03:25:17< Espreon> Ah, that.
20121123 03:25:21< Appleman1234> multiple arcade machine emulator
20121123 03:25:23< freaksV20> thanx appleman 
20121123 03:25:24< Espreon> ... Don't know much about it.
20121123 03:25:30< Espreon> And I don't think I care about it.
20121123 03:25:34< Espreon> So, sorry, man.
20121123 03:25:52< Appleman1234> unlike edamame, you can't eat them 
20121123 03:26:09< freaksV20> I found a old contra cabinet I'm restoring it for the kids and me
20121123 03:26:25< Espreon> Appleman1234: Are you Japanese or do you just like Japanese things?
20121123 03:27:12< Appleman1234> Espreon, I am not Japanese, but I work and live in Japan currently
20121123 03:27:31< Espreon> Ah, thank God I'm not you, then.
20121123 03:27:34< Espreon> Haha.
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20121123 03:27:56< Appleman1234> Espreon, what is so bad about being me ? 
20121123 03:27:59< freaksV20> I think its more for me my kids don't understand the point of retro games
20121123 03:28:03< Espreon> You live and work in Japan.
20121123 03:28:09< Espreon> (I can't stand Japanese)
20121123 03:28:18< Espreon> (And yes, I studied it, so I'm allowed to not stand it)
20121123 03:28:42< Appleman1234> ok
20121123 03:29:12< Espreon> Sorry, man.
20121123 03:29:43< Appleman1234> :S
20121123 03:30:52< Appleman1234> I don't think you understand the thank god I am not you, if you were me your lack of tolerance for languages would be altered, perhaps you meant, if you were in my position or my shoes or similar 
20121123 03:31:16< Espreon> Well, I tolerate language much more than Joe Blow.
20121123 03:31:49< freaksV20> come on guys peace 
20121123 03:32:11< Espreon> Appleman1234: I also tolerate languages that people would probably want to see wiped out.
20121123 03:32:18< Espreon> ... like Tlingit.
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20121123 03:32:26< Espreon> ... and Irish.
20121123 03:32:32< Gambit> &youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVmbhYKDKfU
20121123 03:32:32< janebot> "Haddaway - What Is Love" Length: 3:59 (by Queroz)
20121123 03:32:32< janebot> 7791620 views, 29997 likes, 484 dislikes (unavailable in some regions) http://youtu.be/VVmbhYKDKfU
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20121123 03:32:51< Appleman1234> Gambit, rofl
20121123 03:33:54< Espreon> Well... tolerate is not the right word.
20121123 03:33:58< Espreon> ... No...
20121123 03:34:15< Espreon> ... The ones I mentioned... I love 'em.
20121123 03:34:28< Gambit> Dance party ya'll
20121123 03:34:33< Espreon> Hoo boy.
20121123 03:34:35< Gambit> &youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPh_Ih5hOBs
20121123 03:34:35< janebot> "DJ Friendzone ft. NDT, MC Sagan & Lil Ron - "So Brave (Dubstep Remix)"" Length: 1:57 (by CJ Reddit)
20121123 03:34:36< janebot> 31616 views, 947 likes, 24 dislikes (no region restrictions) http://youtu.be/zPh_Ih5hOBs
20121123 03:34:51< Gambit> lmao "DJ Friendzone"
20121123 03:35:04< Appleman1234> Espreon, I am not commenting on your levels of tolerance, just your choice of words, hence the perhaps you meant options b, c, and d
20121123 03:35:23< Espreon> All right, then.
20121123 03:35:48< Appleman1234> hopefully this patch I just wrote works
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20121123 03:36:17< Gambit> &youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj1pquVdrOE
20121123 03:36:18< janebot> "Adventure Time • Punch Your Buns (Ryden Ridge Remix)" Length: 2:40 (by RydenRidgeOFFICIAL)
20121123 03:36:18< janebot> 1472651 views, 9483 likes, 141 dislikes (no region restrictions) http://youtu.be/rj1pquVdrOE
20121123 03:36:21< freaksV20> I hope its not a patch for wesnoth 
20121123 03:37:58< Espreon> Why?
20121123 03:38:41< freaksV20> I just finish the download I hope I don't have to get a patch too
20121123 03:39:06< Espreon> He's probably patching an ebuild or something.
20121123 03:39:24< Gambit> &youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0tPrmAsFsk
20121123 03:39:24< janebot> "Stargate Atlantis: "Vegas" - Solitary Man" Length: 2:47 (by Stickman87)
20121123 03:39:25< janebot> 60887 views, 378 likes, 6 dislikes (unavailable in some regions) http://youtu.be/p0tPrmAsFsk
20121123 03:40:10< freaksV20> thats one of my pet pevs is getting a new game and spending all night downloading patches
20121123 03:40:20< Espreon> Well...
20121123 03:40:27< Espreon> ... 1.10.5 is the latest stable...
20121123 03:40:28< Espreon> ... so...
20121123 03:40:30< Espreon> ... blargh.
20121123 03:40:30< Appleman1234> freaksV20, even if it was a wesnoth patch, it wouldn't need to be backported to stable
20121123 03:41:15< freaksV20> ok I trust apples more then lemons
20121123 03:43:33< freaksV20> sorry poor joke 
20121123 03:43:50< freaksV20> it sounded better in my head
20121123 03:45:22< freaksV20> ok brb it worked
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20121123 03:49:04< Appleman1234> no change :(
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20121123 03:49:26< Appleman1234> I thought setting cmake's localedir would be enough
20121123 03:54:23< Appleman1234> I already have NLS enabled, so what am I missing :S
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20121123 04:35:39< Espreon> Appleman1234: The actual translation files, perhaps?
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