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Wenns keinen was angeht gehts keinen was an, und wenns auf der hp stehen würde] 20121126 00:53:42-!- mnewton1 [~mnewton1@c-76-99-170-226.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 01:10:43-!- grand_grunt [~remi@grunt.fdn.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20121126 01:12:27-!- grand_grunt [~remi@grunt.fdn.fr] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 01:12:56-!- Crendgrim [~crend@port-92-204-105-88.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: ...] 20121126 01:57:31-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has quit [Quit: :wq] 20121126 02:02:37-!- csarmi_home [~csarmi@host-93-92-56-147.comunique.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20121126 02:16:10-!- bhlegm [~bhlegm@d108-180-27-19.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 02:18:13-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 02:48:34-!- Gambit [~gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 02:55:05-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-029.rrw.residences.colby.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20121126 03:03:13-!- Narrat [~Narrat@p5DC68412.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20121126 03:29:55-!- MadMerlin [~neil@206-248-167-197.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 03:34:02-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20121126 03:45:57-!- noy_ [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 03:49:14-!- TC01 [~ben@128.220.149.13] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20121126 04:07:17-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@dtmd-4d0bf2cc.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 04:09:10-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20121126 04:09:11-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20121126 04:31:29-!- Gambit [~gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20121126 04:48:39-!- hulavuta [~Justin@184.89.1.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20121126 04:51:53-!- hulavuta [~Justin@184.89.1.246] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 05:12:30-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20121126 05:20:17-!- jo-erlend [~jo-erlend@ubuntu/member/jo-erlend] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20121126 05:46:21-!- Cookiee [~quassel@r125-63-185-189.cpe.unwired.net.au] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 05:46:21-!- Cookiee [~quassel@r125-63-185-189.cpe.unwired.net.au] has quit [Changing host] 20121126 05:46:21-!- Cookiee [~quassel@unaffiliated/cookiee] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 05:50:35-!- Forty-3 [~seana11@pool-71-163-168-125.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20121126 06:25:01-!- oldtopman [~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman] has quit [Quit: *pouf*] 20121126 06:29:36-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 06:41:36-!- Cookiee [~quassel@unaffiliated/cookiee] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20121126 06:43:58-!- xorvic [~ko@p3097-ipad01tottori.tottori.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 06:44:03-!- csarmi [~csarmi@host-93-92-56-147.comunique.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 06:45:34-!- Haldrik [~haldrik@unaffiliated/haldrik] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 06:46:06-!- xorvic [~ko@p3097-ipad01tottori.tottori.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Client Quit] 20121126 07:18:32-!- blarumyrran [~uu@wesnoth/artist/blarumyrran] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20121126 07:24:28-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@dtmd-4d0bf2cc.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Changing host] 20121126 07:24:29-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 07:31:37-!- Cookie [~quassel@60-240-54-150.tpgi.com.au] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 07:31:37-!- Cookie [~quassel@60-240-54-150.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Changing host] 20121126 07:31:37-!- Cookie [~quassel@unaffiliated/cookiee] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 07:45:09-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@89-67-172-243.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 07:45:09-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@89-67-172-243.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Changing host] 20121126 07:45:09-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 08:14:47-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 08:16:21-!- Cookie [~quassel@unaffiliated/cookiee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20121126 08:38:19-!- JackBauer24 [~JackBauer@62-121-69-221.home.aster.pl] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 09:05:37-!- feldo [~asaurat@AMontpellier-257-1-2-74.w86-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 09:36:56-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20121126 09:44:47-!- JackBauer24 [~JackBauer@62-121-69-221.home.aster.pl] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20121126 09:53:52-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: KABOOM! It seems that I have exploded. Please wait while I reinstall the universe.] 20121126 10:28:34-!- mnewton1 [~mnewton1@c-76-99-170-226.hsd1.de.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Rice and Corn] 20121126 10:30:46-!- csarmi [~csarmi@host-93-92-56-147.comunique.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20121126 10:34:39-!- noy_ [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy_] 20121126 11:01:16-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has quit [Quit: :wq] 20121126 11:56:45-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@st0801.nas931.n-yokohama.nttpc.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20121126 12:20:39-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@st0801.nas931.n-yokohama.nttpc.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 12:21:04-!- bhlegm [~bhlegm@d108-180-27-19.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20121126 12:40:36-!- CruelCat [~chatzilla@46.173.3.68] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 12:40:39< CruelCat> 0hai 20121126 12:40:55< CruelCat> Why not RLE-encode maps? 20121126 12:41:38< zookeeper> why _would_ one do that? 20121126 12:41:57< CruelCat> To reduce map size 20121126 12:42:34< zookeeper> the sizes are pretty trivial, really. saving a few kb there wouldn't be worth losing the ability to open and edit a map in a text editor and so forth. 20121126 12:43:24< CruelCat> RLE encoding - instead of cccccccccccccccc, 8c 20121126 12:44:26< zookeeper> a typical campaign seems to spend like <500kb on maps 20121126 12:46:34< CruelCat> Which may drop to 300kb of maps. 20121126 12:48:18< zookeeper> yeah. very small gains, yet it would mean extra work for someone who wants to edit the map in a text editor or write some kind of a tool to parse maps or whatever. and being able to do those things without an extra decoding step involved is rather valuable. 20121126 12:48:25< zookeeper> (even if rarely needed) 20121126 12:50:23< CruelCat> Maps would still be editable in a text editor, it's just to suppress long runs of the same type of landscape. 20121126 12:51:02< zookeeper> and considering that the install packages and network traffic are already compressed, the only thing you'd be (marginally) saving on would be the on-disk size of a wesnoth installation. 20121126 12:52:20< zookeeper> anyway, i don't particularly wish to debate it. i'm just saying that it's very, very unlikely to happen ;) 20121126 12:52:28-!- grand_grunt [~remi@grunt.fdn.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20121126 12:53:23-!- grand_grunt [~remi@grunt.fdn.fr] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 12:59:31-!- horon [~horon@nttkyo042189.tkyo.nt.ngn2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 13:05:52-!- CruelCat [~chatzilla@46.173.3.68] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [SeaMonkey 2.14/20121118021014]] 20121126 14:02:09-!- blarumyrran [~uu@wesnoth/artist/blarumyrran] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 14:21:31-!- Rackmount [~frogsicle@173.240.222.2] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 14:25:04-!- horon [~horon@nttkyo042189.tkyo.nt.ngn2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20121126 14:49:23-!- ngoclong19 [~Thunderbi@1.54.144.147] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 14:58:19-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-029.rrw.residences.colby.edu] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 15:11:24-!- Wuzzy [~Wuzzy@p549F9FAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 15:19:21-!- filiprem [~filip@gateway/tor-sasl/filiprem] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 15:19:44-!- ngoclong19 [~Thunderbi@1.54.144.147] has quit [Quit: ngoclong19] 20121126 15:50:49-!- prkc [~negusnyul@51B7BFDF.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 15:59:07-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 16:00:56-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 16:03:08-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 16:10:38-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20121126 16:15:00-!- lipkab [~the_new_l@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 16:48:25-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth 20121126 17:00:14-!- celticminstrel [~celmin@unaffiliated/celticminstrel] has quit [Quit: And lo! 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