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20121209 07:37:42< _gh0st> Alarantalara, mattsc, anyone: How to implement the waypoint method in messenger escort micro_ai? By Completely replacing the current one that is used or by adding a key in the micro_ai tag to indicate which method of moving to use?
20121209 07:39:33< _gh0st> I already did the first part of the 'parol' occupied waypoints task btw.
20121209 07:39:44< _gh0st> s/parol/patrol
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20121209 09:17:22< mattsc> _gh0st: that's up to you how you want to do it.  If I'd do it, since a one-goal method is a special case of a several waypoint method, I'd probably replace it, but that also depends a bit on how you have done the waypoint method.
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20121209 09:26:10< _gh0st> mattsc: I've done it like this: http://pastebin.com/dcKagU5q
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20121209 09:28:37< irker745> wesnoth: lipk * r55843 /trunk/src/multiplayer_create.cpp: 
20121209 09:28:37< irker745> wesnoth: Hide/unhide the password, modifications and options button in mp::create::hide_children(). Hopefully fixes reported visual glitches with those widgets.
20121209 09:29:54< mattsc> _gh0st: does that work also when the current waypoint is the last one?
20121209 09:30:08< _gh0st> yea
20121209 09:30:33< mattsc> you don't get an error from the [i+1] then?
20121209 09:31:02< _gh0st> no
20121209 09:31:36< _gh0st> but hold on, let me double check it again.
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20121209 09:31:56< mattsc> ok, good.  Well, on quick checking it out, this looks like it would work for the messenger as well, just that you don't want to loop back for the last waypoint in that case.
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20121209 09:32:59< irker745> wesnoth: lipk * r55844 /trunk/projectfiles/CodeLite/wesnoth.project: 
20121209 09:32:59< irker745> wesnoth: Update the CodeLite project to find the wesnoth executable.
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20121209 09:34:49< _gh0st> mattsc: My first thought of implementing was to create seperate eval,exec waypoint move functions and add a move_type_eval/exec keys to the micro_ai tag to select the movement type.
20121209 09:35:46< _gh0st> don't know if this is the correct way to approach this.
20121209 09:36:18< lipkab> anonymissimus: I'm running CodeLite on Linux and the project uses cmake for building.
20121209 09:36:45< lipkab> And no, there's no generator for CodeLite, at least not in my cmake binary.
20121209 09:37:24< mattsc> Umm, me neither.  But I don't think that there is a correct way, or an incorrect way.
20121209 09:37:35< _gh0st> mattsc: I think i'll just replace the current movement mechanism with the waypoint one as you suggested then.
20121209 09:38:14< mattsc> The potential problem I see with doing separate eval/exec functions is that you need to make sure they don't get out of sync.
20121209 09:38:27< _gh0st> out of sync?
20121209 09:39:02< mattsc> That you get a positive evaluation for something that won't work in the execution because you changed one and forgot to change the other.
20121209 09:39:19< mattsc> Depends very much on how you implement it, might not be an issue for your method, but can be in some cases.
20121209 09:40:14< _gh0st> Ok, i'll just replace it then, as i said.
20121209 09:40:20< mattsc> Anyways, it's really up to you.
20121209 09:40:22< mattsc> ok
20121209 09:41:34< mattsc> Just make sure that the messenger doesn't loop back to the first waypoint if the final waypoint is occupied.  That wouldn't be good for getting the message to the goal.  :)
20121209 09:42:42< _gh0st> mattsc: btw, what does ai.stopunit_attacks function do? Sets unit.attacks_left to 0?
20121209 09:43:00< _gh0st> ok
20121209 09:43:19< mattsc> Effectively, yes.
20121209 09:44:06< mattsc> It also counts as a gamestate change (which I am not sure whether just setting attacks_left=0) does, so a CA won't get blacklisted if that's the only thing it does.
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20121209 09:49:14< _gh0st> mattsc: Why do need ai.stopunit_attacks here: http://git.io/0IEong? Does unit.attacks_left accumulate after each turn if they haven't been used and that's why we need to set them to 0? 
20121209 09:50:22< _gh0st> Why do we*
20121209 09:52:57< mattsc> _gh0st: imagine the patrol ends up next to an enemy, but neither attack_all is set nor is this enemy on the attack_targets list
20121209 09:53:45< mattsc> If you let the patroller keep the attacks, the RCA AI combat stage might still attack that enemy later, which is not the desired behavior.
20121209 09:54:57< _gh0st> oh, ok, so the RCA AI combat stage is something we cannot control directly.
20121209 09:55:37< mattsc> Well, we can control some of it.
20121209 09:56:01< mattsc> We could turn it off entirely, but then you can't have patrollers and "normal" AI units on the same side.
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20121209 09:56:36< _gh0st> elaborate.
20121209 09:56:44< mattsc> Or we can exclude the patrollers from it using the attacks aspect, but that's much more complicated than using ai.stopunit_attacks  (as I think you have seen)
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20121209 09:57:43< mattsc> We could delete the RCA combat CA, but then it will be deleted for all units...  (is that what you mean?)
20121209 09:58:15< _gh0st> ok, i get it now.
20121209 09:59:33< mattsc> The way it is set up, you can have one unit (or several) who do their patrol route, and others who follow the normal AI behavior.  
20121209 09:59:35< mattsc> On the same side, I mean.
20121209 10:01:38< mattsc> _gh0st: I'll be away for a little now.  Will be back later.
20121209 10:01:45< _gh0st> ok, sure.
20121209 10:02:35< Soliton> Ivanovic, Alarantalara, AI0867: dev mp server updated and announced 1.11.1 on it.
20121209 10:02:47< Ivanovic> Soliton: great!
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20121209 10:43:03< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: https://gna.org/bugs/?19643
20121209 10:43:14< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: have you changed any libs from 1.10.1 to 1.10.2?
20121209 10:47:44< Ivanovic> okay, bugtracker cleanup completed
20121209 10:52:10< Ivanovic> Alarantalara: are you sure the OSX version is okay?
20121209 10:52:20< Ivanovic> it is significantly smaller than the releases before
20121209 10:52:39< Ivanovic> 310MB (at sf.net) vs 334MB before
20121209 10:53:13< Ivanovic> i am asking this because the other version got slightly larger
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20121209 11:07:34< irker745> wesnoth: ivanovic * r55845 /trunk/RELEASE_NOTES: 
20121209 11:07:34< irker745> wesnoth: created the release announcement draft in the forums, purging RELEASE_NOTES accordingly
20121209 11:07:40< Ivanovic> 1.11.1 announcment draft: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=38014
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20121209 12:43:25< _gh0st> mattsc: Is self.data.x some kind of persistent storage?
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20121209 12:47:24< mattsc> _gh0st: self.data is a persistent table, yes
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20121209 14:14:41< loonycyborg> Ivanovic: iirc I started using custom-compiled sdl at this version again
20121209 14:15:44< loonycyborg> Because of reports of problems when I started using official libsdl build :P
20121209 14:15:51< loonycyborg> iirc they were sound related too
20121209 14:18:00< loonycyborg> Maybe I should try making a custom build of SDL_mixer too :P
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20121209 14:52:36< Ivanovic> loonycyborg: might make sense
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20121209 15:00:54< Ivanovic> posted the announcement in the forums and updated the frontpage, done with 1.11.1
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20121209 15:27:07< Alarantalara> Ivanovic: You're right about the OS X release. I appear to have uploaded the first version I built which was missing translations instead of the second, which is not. I'll reupload it
20121209 15:28:48< Ivanovic> okay
20121209 15:28:55< Ivanovic> will the name be identical?
20121209 15:28:58< Alarantalara> yes
20121209 15:29:06< Ivanovic> okay
20121209 15:29:10< Alarantalara> unless you'd prefer otherwise
20121209 15:29:28< Ivanovic> hmm, maybe an 'a' in there would make sense for those who already downloaded it
20121209 15:29:43< Ivanovic> make sure to ping me after the upload so that i can update the website
20121209 15:33:49< Alarantalara> Of course. It should be about 1.5 hours based on my typical upload speed
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20121209 15:37:59< shadowm> How about you people post a warning in the 1.11.1 announcement topic about it?
20121209 15:39:20< shadowm> (You know, because not everyone can afford all those megabytes, as shocking as that may sound.)
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20121209 17:23:43< Alarantalara> Ivanovic: It's uploaded. I've also updated the download page. I have no access to the front page though.
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20121209 19:03:43< Ivanovic> Alarantalara: will update it, have you already posted in the 1.11.1 announcement thread?
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20121209 19:05:20< Alarantalara> As an edit to a separate post.
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20121209 19:39:03< Ivanovic> Alarantalara: updated the frontpage
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20121209 21:34:34< irker745> wesnoth: ivanovic * r55846 /trunk/ (6 files in 5 dirs): 
20121209 21:34:35< irker745> wesnoth: updated Italian translation
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20121209 21:51:23< anonymissimus> Ivanovic: I hope nobody except you ever uses the word "bump" in his commit messages since this is so nice to search for when looking which revisions are the releases :)
20121209 21:51:59< Ivanovic> anonymissimus: it is easier, just look into the webinterface at the tags
20121209 21:52:09< anonymissimus> hm, Espreon does
20121209 21:52:12< Ivanovic> once tagged we tend to not change anything
20121209 21:52:26< Ivanovic> and there you can see the exact revision
20121209 21:53:38< Espreon> anonymissimus: Just in "Post-release bump.", usually.
20121209 21:54:54< anonymissimus> AI0867: does this look as if it could have to do with the bzip2 stuff ? http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=38017&p=544121#p544121
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