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20121217 07:00:38< dailin__> hi,noy
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20121217 12:24:51< boucman_work> AI0867: I'd like the no_<attibute> one better, it avoidstricky grammar conflicts
20121217 12:25:25< boucman_work> AI0867: oops, forget my comment above, I hadn't noticed I answered something from friday evening
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20121217 12:49:19< AI0867> boucman_work: haven't committed anything yet
20121217 12:49:41< AI0867> and yes, that was my reason for asking, but zookeeper has the opposite opinion
20121217 12:49:53< boucman_work> oh ? did he say why ?
20121217 12:50:20< AI0867> 18:33 < zookeeper> AI0867, eh, i think unpoisonable etc are better. however, it'd be nice if not_living or something similar was still available so you don't have to start  using 3 (or more) instead of 1.
20121217 12:50:46< AI0867> that's all
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20121217 13:17:06< zookeeper> yeah, currently all 3 are bound together in not_living, so it'd be ackward to have to set all 3 separately in the future
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20121217 13:20:50< zookeeper> couldn't you just keep both? anywhere where you'd check whether undrainable==true, just check whether undrainable==true || not_living==true
20121217 13:22:41< zookeeper> although i guess reading not_living could be more hacky, depending on how status reading works
20121217 13:26:38< AI0867> my planned implementation is that writing not_living sets all three, and reading it ANDs the three
20121217 13:26:53< AI0867> though I'd prefer to deprecate that
20121217 13:27:32< AI0867> (they're typically set using a macro anyway, and the cases where you read it tend to be specific to an ability)
20121217 13:29:52< zookeeper> well, as usual i'm rather hostile towards breaking backwards compatibility unless it's particularly necessary in some case
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20121217 13:47:18< AI0867> zookeeper: I don't see any problems with keeping it for 1.12, but I'd prefer to remove it 'someday'
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20121217 15:22:18< faabumc> hi lipkab
20121217 15:22:21< lipkab> Hi faabumc.
20121217 15:22:34< lipkab> You were quicker...
20121217 15:22:34< faabumc> how are you?
20121217 15:22:45< faabumc> you were looking for me?
20121217 15:22:46< lipkab> Fine, thanks.
20121217 15:22:50< lipkab> Yes.
20121217 15:23:04< faabumc> tell me everything
20121217 15:23:17< faabumc> :)
20121217 15:23:25< lipkab> I tested that stuff you committed (the [variables] thing).
20121217 15:23:37< lipkab> And it simply doesn't work with modifications.
20121217 15:23:55< faabumc> wow
20121217 15:24:02< lipkab> I put a [variables] tag in, and nothing happens.
20121217 15:24:06< faabumc> what kind of test are you running?
20121217 15:24:24< faabumc> what do you expect to happen?
20121217 15:24:50< lipkab> A minute please...
20121217 15:25:19< faabumc> if you are just storing something in variable, then the only test I see if to save and check the varaibles are defined in savegame
20121217 15:28:02< lipkab> faabumc: http://pastebin.com/BP5s08QQ
20121217 15:28:30< lipkab> That's the code. The value of the "hamm" variables doesn't show up in the message.
20121217 15:28:45< lipkab> Ooops...
20121217 15:29:11< lipkab> Not ooops. The test_var variable, I mean.
20121217 15:31:22< lipkab> It doesn't show up in the savegame either.
20121217 15:31:25< faabumc> let me check
20121217 15:34:41< faabumc> sorry, that is not straightforward to me with the option
20121217 15:35:27< lipkab> The code, you mean?
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20121217 15:35:46< lipkab> You can ignore the [options] section.
20121217 15:46:39< faabumc> yes that test is failing
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20121217 16:17:49< faabumc> hi lipkab
20121217 16:18:18< faabumc> so you are right, the test is not working
20121217 16:18:25< faabumc> I am not sure for the reason yet
20121217 16:18:59< faabumc> let me show you the test of mine that is working ok: http://pastebin.com/uppspwvZ
20121217 16:19:47< faabumc> it seems that the result depend on the format of the variable stored in [variables] (see http://wiki.wesnoth.org/VariablesWML#The_.5Bvariables.5D_tag)
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20121217 16:25:17< faabumc> lipkab, I guess that is the all_children_range in BOOST_FOREACH (const config::any_child& var_cfg, mod_cfg.child("variables").all_children_range()) that takes only the arrays
20121217 16:25:47< faabumc> (from src/play_controller.cpp, line 295)
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20121217 16:43:59< faabumc> lipkab, I have a problem too actually, that is why I was looking for you
20121217 16:44:58< faabumc> lipkab, it seems like the content of [modification] is  not copied into the scenario 2 of a MP campaign
20121217 16:46:12< faabumc> so that the events defined in the modification are only triggered in the first scenario
20121217 16:46:26< faabumc> lipkab, can you have a look at it while I try to fix your problem?
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20121217 17:01:30< lipkab> faabumc: Err, I'm looking after a little brother. Maybe a bit later.
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20121217 18:06:13< vitiv> hello, everyone
20121217 18:06:33< vitiv> I'm currently working on a micro AI task on Wesnoth
20121217 18:07:27< vitiv> Could you recommend me a repo for 1.11 version on ubuntu, both the ppa and getdeb seem to be down
20121217 18:08:08< mattsc> Hi vitiv 
20121217 18:08:45< mattsc> You don't need to compile Wesnoth for the Micro AI tasks.  Just download 1.11.1 from the Wesnoth front page.
20121217 18:10:21< mattsc> vitiv: oops, sorry, Linux distributions aren't available from there.  My bad.  (I'm using OS X)
20121217 18:10:35< vitiv> No problem
20121217 18:11:01< mattsc> You can get the source from there though
20121217 18:11:55< vitiv> Yup, I have it
20121217 18:13:59< vitiv> also btw, I get an unjustifiable dependency for libfreetype6 on ubuntu
20121217 18:17:18< vitiv> nvm, some broken lib
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20121217 20:44:42< vitiv> Regarding my task: for the sheep microai the herders are supposed to prefer just one type of terrain not more. or not?
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20121217 20:54:59< vitiv> nvm, i guess it's a LocationFilter
20121217 20:56:21< vitiv> just a clarification, please. everything in the sheep ai except the radii are filters?
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20121217 20:59:03< vitiv> just a clarification, please. everything in the sheep ai except the radii are filters?
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20121217 21:37:18< skyfaller> one more for 3v3
20121217 21:37:29< skyfaller> whooops, wrong channel :)
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20121217 23:48:30< mattsc> vitiv: yes, that is correct
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