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20121231 01:04:08< irker855> wesnoth: ai0867 * r55961 /trunk/ (11 files in 7 dirs): 
20121231 01:04:08< irker855> wesnoth: Split the 'not_living' unit status into unpoisonable, undrainable and unplagueable
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20121231 01:38:19< irker855> wesnoth: jamit * r55962 /trunk/src/ (9 files in 3 dirs): 
20121231 01:38:20< irker855> wesnoth: Expanding the "action" namespace.
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20121231 01:48:40< Ivanovic> Alarantalara: since you seem to be in contact with the student for the trailer: any decent format should do, things can be converted to other formats easy enough
20121231 01:48:49< Ivanovic> just has to be uploadable e.g. to youtube.com
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20121231 01:50:37< Alarantalara> Ivanovic: Apparently it was originally in .wmv. I assume you would prefer something like what was uploaded to the contest page.
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20121231 01:52:24< Ivanovic> okay, wmv sucks too much
20121231 01:52:39< Ivanovic> some plain avi or mp4 file with h264 or xvid or the likes should be fine
20121231 01:55:58< Ivanovic> off to bed now, n8
20121231 01:57:10< Ivanovic> AI0867, fendrin, mordante: in case you don't speak up in the next hours against going for the more expensive "private room": will order it in about 10h for the 4 of us
20121231 01:57:51< Ivanovic> this way we are at least sure that we'll ahve the room just for us even though it will be 3€ more per person and night
20121231 01:58:21< shadowm_desktop> Ivanovic: And don't forget to answer my question tomorrow.
20121231 01:58:46< Ivanovic> shadowm_desktop: will be a long cycle unless folks at fosdem tell me "nah, don't go for the next gsoc!"
20121231 01:58:53< fendrin> Ivanovic: fine
20121231 01:58:55< shadowm_desktop> Assuming you can allot some time before whatever you want to celebrate around next midnight.
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20121231 01:59:21< shadowm_desktop> Ivanovic: Le sigh.
20121231 01:59:49< Ivanovic> shadowm_desktop: reply given, time for sleep!
20121231 01:59:51< Ivanovic> n8
20121231 02:00:02< shadowm_desktop> Yeah, you were hoping for 1.10.5 to be EOL when 1.12 is still aprox. a year way. Yeah, yeah.
20121231 02:00:15< shadowm_desktop> Way to go.
20121231 02:00:32< Ivanovic> shadowm_desktop: just have a look at the commits still happening for 1.10.x: close to zero
20121231 02:00:49< Ivanovic> yeah, would have loved to go for a new stable soonish, but there is just not enough time
20121231 02:00:53< shadowm_desktop> Yeah, and yet we still have important bugs in 1.10.x.
20121231 02:01:03< shadowm_desktop> That no commits are happening is a symptom of bugs not being fixed.
20121231 02:01:08< shadowm_desktop> Not a symptom of bugs not existing.
20121231 02:01:15< Ivanovic> jepp
20121231 02:01:24< Ivanovic> currently the development happening is rather low
20121231 02:01:52< shadowm_desktop> It's all GUI2's fault. *whistles idly*
20121231 02:02:57< shadowm_desktop> I have various ideas for 1.12 in my queue and I simply cannot work on them because of GUI2 not providing required functionality.
20121231 02:03:56< shadowm_desktop> And the GUI2 implementation code is both overwhelmingly complicated, and under exclusive control by someone else.
20121231 02:04:54< shadowm_desktop> Meanwhile, 1.10 is plagued by important bugs that nobody can fix yet, not even for 1.12.
20121231 02:05:15< shadowm_desktop> e.g. Wesnoth failing to run from non-ASCII paths on Windows.
20121231 02:05:27< shadowm_desktop> Or failing to run *properly*, anyway.
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20121231 02:23:23< AI0867> shadowm_desktop: I have some boost::filesystem-based rewrite lying around, but espreon has tested it and reports that it doesn't actually fix any bugs
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20121231 02:31:22< irker855> wesnoth: jamit * r55963 /trunk/src/ (11 files in 3 dirs): 
20121231 02:31:22< irker855> wesnoth: Expanding the "action" namespace.
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20121231 02:52:20< irker855> wesnoth: jamit * r55964 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 
20121231 02:52:21< irker855> wesnoth: Merge three codepaths for recruiting units (player, AI, and replay).
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20121231 03:27:59< irker855> wesnoth: shadowmaster * r55965 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/addon_filter_options.cfg: 
20121231 03:27:59< irker855> wesnoth: gui2/taddon_filter_options: Rearrange grid layout for the areas containing the type checkboxes and the status listbox
20121231 03:28:00< irker855> wesnoth: The previous grid layout seemed strictly presentational and rather
20121231 03:28:00< irker855> wesnoth: unhelpful from an organizational/semantic standpoint. The new layout
20121231 03:28:01< irker855> wesnoth: should also make a couple of upcoming changes to the dialog's widget
20121231 03:28:01< irker855> wesnoth: arrangement and contents easier to implement.
20121231 03:28:26< irker855> wesnoth: shadowmaster * r55966 /trunk/data/gui/default/window/addon_filter_options.cfg: 
20121231 03:28:27< irker855> wesnoth: gui2/taddon_filter_options: Swap left and right option columns
20121231 03:28:27< irker855> wesnoth: Having the listbox to the right seemed arbitrary and not particularly
20121231 03:28:28< irker855> wesnoth: pleasing from an aesthetic point of view.
20121231 03:28:48< irker855> wesnoth: shadowmaster * r55967 /trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 
20121231 03:28:48< irker855> wesnoth: gui2/taddon_filter_options: Keep track of the add-on type fields and implement a button to toggle them all at once
20121231 03:28:49< irker855> wesnoth: Also needed to do some refactoring to achieve the tracking part. Not
20121231 03:28:49< irker855> wesnoth: that anyone really needs to see that in a separate commit.
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20121231 04:36:47< shadowm> Er.
20121231 04:37:01< shadowm> I can't build the test suite now.
20121231 04:38:06< shadowm> http://pastebin.com/zWJJX2Jf
20121231 04:40:38< shadowm> It's great that I can now use git-bisect without triggering 30-minutes-long builds.
20121231 04:41:31< shadowm> wesbot: seen jamit
20121231 04:41:32< wesbot> shadowm: The person with the nick jamit last spoke 17d 6h ago.  1h 30m ago they left with the message: Quit: Leaving.
20121231 04:41:41< shadowm> jamit: It's a consequence of r55962
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20121231 06:22:05< jamit> shadowm: I see the problem.
20121231 06:22:40< shadowm> Good. :)
20121231 06:23:14< jamit> shadowm: Not sure what the best fix is, but the easiest should be changing "action" to "wb::action" in line 28 of tests/test_whiteboard_side_actions.cpp
20121231 06:24:24< shadowm> So a name clash?
20121231 06:25:01< jamit> Yes. That revision made namespace action visible to that source file.
20121231 06:25:35< shadowm> Hm, I thought we generally avoided using the 'using' directive on namespaces.
20121231 06:26:14< jamit> I guess the other option would be to change the namespace to "actions", but I think "action" reads better, and could avoid a possible clash in the ai namespace.
20121231 06:27:25< jamit> Although I suppose "action" could lead to a name clash in the wb name space.
20121231 06:27:54< jamit> Is there a convention for namespace names?
20121231 06:28:37< shadowm> I have no idea. I have generally sidestepped the namespace issue in e.g. the add-ons management code by avoiding named namespaces.
20121231 06:30:21< shadowm> Mainly because I feel like they may occasionally jumble things up when you have the same symbol defined as completely different things in different namespaces.
20121231 06:33:59< jamit> Eh, it's getting late here. Let me commit the quick fix now so things compile, then I can think about what should be done tomorrow.
20121231 06:35:16< shadowm> Well, I don't really need the tests myself. No idea about the rest, but it's always seemed like the test suite is maintained mostly as a formality kind of thing.
20121231 06:35:42< irker855> wesnoth: jamit * r55968 /trunk/src/tests/test_whiteboard_side_actions.cpp: 
20121231 06:35:42< irker855> wesnoth: Resolve an ambiguous name.
20121231 06:35:43< irker855> wesnoth: This might be just a quick fix so things compile for now.
20121231 06:35:43< irker855> wesnoth: I'll get back to this tomorrow.
20121231 06:36:16< shadowm> I don't even know if anyone actually bothers to ensure the test suite passes before releasing.
20121231 06:36:32< shadowm> I do remember that it was completely broken for a few releases at one point.
20121231 06:36:49< shadowm> Well, broken as in failing at runtime, not build time.
20121231 06:37:52< jamit> I've used one of the programs in utils/ to verify correctness, but nothing from tests/.
20121231 06:38:32< shadowm> There's only one target built with all that code, which is named 'test', appropriately enough.
20121231 06:38:43< jamit> Er, src/tests and utils/ would be better names, since they are on different levels of the heirarchy.
20121231 06:42:07< shadowm> wesbot: seen esr
20121231 06:42:07< wesbot> shadowm: Queried user last spoke 13d 19h ago.  esr is currently here and on the channel #wesnoth-umc-dev.
20121231 06:42:45< esr> You looking for me?
20121231 06:42:49< shadowm> esr: What was py-compile for?
20121231 06:43:14< shadowm> It seems to have been added in r17371 for use with the autotools 'install' target, but I can't find any references to it in the cmake or scons recipes atm.
20121231 06:43:17< esr> Dunno. I didn't wite it and don't remember it.
20121231 06:43:34< shadowm> Unless there's some less obvious way to invoke it I'm not currently aware of.
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20121231 06:44:48< shadowm> That is, $ find . \( -type f -name 'CMake*' -or -name 'SCons*' \) -exec fgrep -n py-compile '{}' \; gives nothing
20121231 06:44:57< esr> It might be a historical fiossil from one of our ... distressingly many .. build systems.
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20121231 06:45:35< shadowm> Yeah, there was only autotools when it was introduced.
20121231 06:46:13< shadowm> I would propose deleting it if it's truly orphaned, but since I don't understand neither cmake nor scons perhaps loonycyborg and Ivanovic should look into that.
20121231 06:46:27< esr> Agreed.
20121231 06:51:45< shadowm> jamit: And the quick fix works, of course.
20121231 06:54:28< shadowm> Yeah, the test suite seems to go to sleep forever at some point right now.
20121231 06:54:51< shadowm> It seems to be trying to play a game.
20121231 06:55:32< shadowm> http://pastebin.com/cLQxEBS6
20121231 06:56:36< shadowm> Maybe some day someone will volunteer to bisect that.
20121231 06:58:09< shadowm> Ctrl+C gets it out of the human turn loop, though.
20121231 06:58:55< shadowm> With all the subsequent warnings and errors it gives it's hard to say whether things are working as intended.
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20121231 11:42:59< vultraz> Happy New Year :3
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20121231 12:15:29< Ivanovic> AI0867, fendrin, mordante: booking of the room at 2go4 done, check your inbox(es)
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20121231 13:46:14< AI0867> new version of the trailer: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7992221
20121231 13:46:34< AI0867> any comments, beside the compression artifacts?
20121231 14:15:10< AI0867> Alarantalara, Ivanovic, zookeeper, vultraz, Espreon: ^
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20121231 14:24:53< loonycyborg> shadowm: This utility byte-compiles python files into .pyc and .pyo files.
20121231 14:25:08< loonycyborg> Only useful when installing python modules.
20121231 14:25:19< loonycyborg> But not even strictly necessary
20121231 14:25:26< loonycyborg> iirc it's not used in scons
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20121231 16:35:28< nejucomo> I have a multiplayer scenario which defines leaders within side tags.
20121231 16:35:44< nejucomo> When I run with --multiplayer --scenario myscenario, the leaders are random units.  Is this a bug?
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20121231 19:05:40< shadowm> loonycyborg: Yeah, that's the thing. Do we need it anymore?
20121231 19:06:31< loonycyborg> Most likely we don't. It's a part of autotool distribution even it seems
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20121231 20:59:13< irker901> wesnoth: jamit * r55969 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 
20121231 20:59:13< irker901> wesnoth: Merge three codepaths for recalling units (player, AI, and replay).
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20121231 21:33:52< AI0867> jamit: nice
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20121231 21:34:59< jamit> The merge?
20121231 21:35:05< AI0867> yeah
20121231 21:35:10< AI0867> we need more of that
20121231 21:35:19< AI0867> too many parallel codepaths still lying around
20121231 21:35:49< jamit> It's just a step in the process. It will mean that I don't have to duplicate more code soon. ;)
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20121231 21:51:18< irker901> wesnoth: jamit * r55970 /trunk/src/ (22 files in 4 dirs): 
20121231 21:51:18< irker901> wesnoth: Rename namespace action back to "actions".
20121231 21:51:19< irker901> wesnoth: This is to avoid potential name clashes with any classses named "action", like what shadowm
20121231 21:51:20< irker901> wesnoth: found in the test suite. (The quick fix of r55968 is now reverted in favor of this fix.)
20121231 21:51:20< irker901> wesnoth: One complication is that there is already an "ai:actions" namespace, so within the "ai"
20121231 21:51:20< irker901> wesnoth: namespace, the renamed namespace is qualified as "::actions".
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20121231 22:15:01< irker901> wesnoth: espreon * r55971 /trunk/ (20 files in 19 dirs): 
20121231 22:15:02< irker901> wesnoth: Updated the British English translation.
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20121231 22:17:13< irker901> wesnoth: espreon * r55972 /branches/1.10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
20121231 22:17:13< irker901> wesnoth: Updated the British English translation.
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20121231 22:31:00< irker901> wesnoth: jamit * r55973 /trunk/src/menu_events.cpp: 
20121231 22:31:00< irker901> wesnoth: I missed a line that was supposed to be in r55969.
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20121231 22:57:34< irker901> wesnoth: jamit * r55974 /trunk/src/replay.cpp: 
20121231 22:57:35< irker901> wesnoth: Use the undo stack during replays.
20121231 22:57:36< irker901> wesnoth: This is so that replays will be able to accurately replay delayed shroud updates.
20121231 22:57:36< irker901> wesnoth: (Using the undo stack could have been restricted to teams using fog or shroud,
20121231 22:57:37< irker901> wesnoth: but it is simpler to just generate the stack for everyone.)
20121231 22:57:48< jamit> ^ The reason for the merges.
20121231 23:03:02< shadowm> Eliminating redundant code is always good.
20121231 23:04:03< irker901> wesnoth: shadowmaster * r55975 /trunk/ (players_changelog changelog): 
20121231 23:04:03< irker901> wesnoth: Amend changelog entry for r55923 lacking additional information
20121231 23:28:02< AI0867> anybody have any opinion at all on the new trailer?
20121231 23:31:49< AI0867> Alarantalara?
20121231 23:40:28< irker901> wesnoth: jamit * r55976 /trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): 
20121231 23:40:29< irker901> wesnoth: Store DSU toggles and manual shroud updates in replays.
20121231 23:40:29< irker901> wesnoth: This should resolve the remaining reported bugs with sighted events.
20121231 23:41:05< jamit> Let me know if I missed any of the bugs.
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20121231 23:50:33< Espreon> AI0867: Meh, it's a bit choppy and blotchy.
20121231 23:50:55< AI0867> yeah, compression artifacts are my main concern
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20121231 23:51:26< Espreon> Language shift... also meh.
20121231 23:51:31< Espreon> English -> Finnish
20121231 23:51:48< Espreon> Maybe not meh, but meh.
20121231 23:52:12< Espreon> This white text... ewww.
20121231 23:52:15< Espreon> ... especially that font.
20121231 23:52:38< Espreon> The in-game stuff is also blurry.
20121231 23:52:42< Espreon> ... really EWWWW...
20121231 23:53:06< AI0867> could you phrase that in a way I can use as feedback?
20121231 23:53:23-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: FOSDEM 2013 planning: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/Fosdem2013 | 180 bugs, 332 feature requests, 14 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20121231 23:53:42< Espreon> The wesnoth.org + logo part should just be laid over an image of the map.
20121231 23:53:53< Espreon> ... not in-game footage of a storyscreen with the map.
20121231 23:54:06< Espreon> AI0867: Phrase what?
20121231 23:57:06< Espreon> Also, it's "cross-compatible"
20121231 23:57:51< AI0867> your feedback
20121231 23:58:23< Espreon> Sigh.
20121231 23:58:27< Espreon> Fine.
20121231 23:58:54< Espreon> 200 unit types.
20121231 23:58:59< Espreon> ... according to what?
20121231 23:59:36< AI0867> find data/core/units/ -type f |wc -l
20121231 23:59:52< AI0867> result: 212
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