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20121221 00:04:03< Alarantalara1> The answer should of course be against units like spearmen who have no physical resistances. The relatively better quality of poison against units with them is already accounted for.
20121221 00:04:27< Alarantalara1> Which is part of why the excessive bias exists in that image.
20121221 00:09:10< irker646> AI-Demos: mattsc master * r82f3c02 / scenarios/wolves.cfg : Wolves scenario: a few changes to messages - http://git.io/i9LnBw
20121221 00:10:32< irker646> AI-Demos: mattsc master * r2f2c678 / (micro_ais/scenarios/wolves.cfg scenarios/wolves.cfg): Move wolves scenario to micro_ai directory - http://git.io/-u1daA
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20121221 00:56:46< skyfaller> it is really hard to justify more than 2 poisoners on any front
20121221 00:57:31< skyfaller> if you are having trouble keeping units poisoned because they have healing or regeneration, then maybe poison is not what you should be using
20121221 00:58:00< skyfaller> and if they do not have healing or regeneration, a couple of poisoners should be enough to eventually turn everyone green
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20121221 00:58:52< skyfaller> really one poisoner should be enough on each front, but 2 gets the job done faster and gives you some redundancy so you can still spread poison if one of them dies
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20121221 01:07:16< Alarantalara1> I seem to remember wanting more than that on Cynsaun battlefield
20121221 01:08:16< Alarantalara1> Fronts are a bit of a problem for counting, since there is no method to count them yet
20121221 01:09:10< Alarantalara1> Freelands has 2 or 3 depending on if you want to count the center (possibly not)
20121221 01:09:19< Alarantalara1> Cynsaun has 3 but they're huge
20121221 01:09:35< Alarantalara1> Den of Onis has 1?
20121221 01:10:02< Alarantalara1> And even if you counted the other routes, there's no way I'd want multiple poisoners there
20121221 01:12:49< Alarantalara1> I think I'll start with this:
20121221 01:13:03< irker646> AI-Demos: Alarantalara master * r7101406 / lua/generic-recruit_engine.lua : Discourage poisoning if there is more than one poisoner per 5 enemy units - http://git.io/k-i2TA
20121221 01:14:18< Alarantalara1> I'm not sure that's an ideal number (The game now ends with 3 instead of 8 on the map, which may still be too many, but it's definitely better)
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20121221 01:38:03< irker646> AI-Demos: mattsc master * r849b520 / (2 files): Remove debug library from Healer Support and Bottleneck Defense AIs - http://git.io/Tg66ig
20121221 01:40:44< irker646> AI-Demos: Alarantalara master * r99406f3 / lua/generic-recruit_engine.lua : Do not encourage poison against the unliving - http://git.io/QDCTgQ
20121221 01:46:06< Alarantalara1> mattsc: http://imagebin.org/240159
20121221 01:48:00< Alarantalara1> In addition to the slow speed, I think it might have made more sense if the adept in the bottom right  had tried to kill the drake north of it. As it is, it will likely just die next turn
20121221 01:50:01< Alarantalara1> Which it did in my next slow speed image: http://imagebin.org/240160
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20121221 01:57:53< mattsc> Alarantalara1: This is Fred playing?
20121221 01:58:07< Alarantalara1> yes
20121221 01:58:30< mattsc> Ok, I'll keep that in mind.  Thanks.
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20121221 01:58:53< mattsc> It's probably still going to be a little until I get back to Fred though
20121221 02:00:14< mattsc> Alarantalara1: fyi, the Messenger Escort AI currently breaks when reloading.
20121221 02:00:51< mattsc> We need to keep in mind that anything that's supposed to be persistent in self.data needs to be in WML table format.  Well, *I* keep forgetting at least.
20121221 02:03:21< Alarantalara1> I suppose this isn't a problem with the older version used by UtBS?
20121221 02:03:39< Alarantalara1> I notice it uses it, but only to pass an attack from eval to exec
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20121221 02:06:56< mattsc> Alarantalara1: that's correct.  This is only since the introduction of waypoints a few days ago.
20121221 02:07:23< mattsc> I'm just mentioning it as a reminder to both of us.  I'll fix it later.
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20121221 03:51:13< irker646> AI-Demos: mattsc master * r7d1a624 / micro_ais/ais/mai_messenger_escort_engine.lua : Messenger Escort AI: make AI stable across save/load cycles - http://git.io/I75wfQ
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20121221 15:29:27< irker086> wesnoth-umc-dev: elvish-hunter * r16479 /trunk/Wesnoth_Lua_Pack/ (changelog _server_.pbl wlp-version.cfg wlp.html): 
20121221 15:29:27< irker086> wesnoth-umc-dev: WLP: pre-release version bump to 1.6.0
20121221 15:34:43< irker086> wesnoth-umc-dev: elvish-hunter * r16480 /tags/trunk/Wesnoth_Lua_Pack/Wesnoth_Lua_Pack: 
20121221 15:34:44< irker086> wesnoth-umc-dev: WLP: tagged version 1.6.0
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20121221 15:36:19< irker086> wesnoth-umc-dev: WLP: tagged version 1.6.0
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20121221 15:38:35< irker086> wesnoth-umc-dev: WLP: post-release version bump to 1.6.0+svn
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20121221 15:46:36< irker086> wesnoth-umc-dev: WLP: removed accidentally committed tag
20121221 16:15:39< irker086> AI-Demos: mattsc master * r6aaf126 / (4 files in 2 dirs): Protect Unit AI: change units= key to [unit] tag - http://git.io/f531wA
20121221 16:30:02< irker086> AI-Demos: mattsc master * ree9f13b / micro_ais/ais/mai_protect_unit_engine.lua : Protect Unit AI: eliminate unnecessary unit table - http://git.io/nC0_Jw
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20121221 21:39:32< irker383> AI-Demos: Alarantalara master * r8d191a4 / lua/generic-recruit_engine.lua : Correct error in damage done by poison when multiple attacks exist - http://git.io/Ag_5Ew
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20121221 22:52:00< irker383> AI-Demos: Alarantalara master * r7fb8c6f / lua/generic-recruit_engine.lua : Integrate penalty for not capturing a village in one turn into the effective cost for the unit - http://git.io/eSm9gA
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