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20130116 01:41:58< irker258> wesnoth: jamit * r56062 /trunk/src/ (unit.cpp unit.hpp): 
20130116 01:41:59< irker258> wesnoth: Have unit store a pointer to unit_type instead of a unit_type ID string.
20130116 01:41:59< irker258> wesnoth: In addition to speeding access to the unit_type (no need to search), this makes it
20130116 01:42:00< irker258> wesnoth: easier to see that a unit always has a valid unit_type (an exception is thrown otherwise).
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20130116 02:05:29< shadowm> wesbot: seen Upthorn
20130116 02:05:29< wesbot> shadowm: Queried user Upthorn is currently (also as Upth) in this channel.
20130116 02:06:24< shadowm> Just noting that https://gna.org/bugs/?20385 is still a thing.
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20130116 02:18:59< irker258> wesnoth: jamit * r56063 /trunk/src/ (ai/testing/ca.cpp unit.cpp): 
20130116 02:18:59< irker258> wesnoth: Some optimizations made possible by r56062 (unit::type() is never NULL).
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20130116 02:51:49< Upth> oh, oops. I totally forgot
20130116 02:52:13< Upth> that arrived in the midst of me doing a bunch of computer setup changes
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20130116 03:15:40< shadowm> Upth: If you need me to do something specific in gdb or valgrind and you don't have a very capapble machine around, I can help with that.
20130116 03:15:57< shadowm> I'm not familiarized enough with either to be able to diagnose the issue further.
20130116 03:16:24< Upth> I don't think so, I just completely forgot to look into it at all
20130116 03:16:59< Upth> because when I first got notified of that, I didn't have git or anything setup
20130116 03:17:19< Upth> Now I do, so now I'll check it out
20130116 03:20:03< Upth> oh wesnoth is still SVN. let me go get svn set back up as well
20130116 03:21:03< shadowm> Yeah, or you can download a 1.5 GiB or so git-svn tree if you have used git-svn before. ;)
20130116 03:21:46< shadowm> I suspect Wesnoth will stick to SVN until either SVN itself becomes unsupported, or Gna.org closes down for good.
20130116 03:22:13< Upth> I haven't used git-svn before.
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20130116 03:25:04< Upth> man, it's been so long since I used gna
20130116 03:31:42< Upth> Hrm. it's not accepting my ssh key
20130116 03:32:00< Upth> or I need to go through another step in setting up pageant and plink
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20130116 04:04:21< Upth> ok, so... when I changed the location that pageant was being run from, suddenly it decided to work
20130116 04:06:07 * Upth shakes head in exasperation
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20130116 04:19:45< irker258> wesnoth: jamit * r56064 /trunk/src/ai/formula/function_table.cpp: 
20130116 04:19:45< irker258> wesnoth: Check for unit types found before creating units based on them.
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20130116 08:32:59< timotei> ?
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20130116 08:57:03< Espreon> timotei: ... Hmmmm?
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20130116 13:07:34< irker258> wesnoth: jamit * r56065 /trunk/src/ (10 files in 5 dirs): 
20130116 13:07:35< irker258> wesnoth: Change unit::type() to return a reference instead of a never-NULL pointer.
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20130116 13:53:58< irker258> wesnoth: jamit * r56066 /trunk/src/ (actions/attack.cpp unit.cpp scripting/lua.cpp unit.hpp): 
20130116 13:53:58< irker258> wesnoth: Change unit::advance_to() so that it takes a unit_type reference instead of a pointer
20130116 13:53:59< irker258> wesnoth: that was assumed (in many places) to be non-NULL.
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20130116 14:30:10< irker258> wesnoth: jamit * r56067 /trunk/src/ (11 files in 5 dirs): 
20130116 14:30:10< irker258> wesnoth: Change the unit constructor based on a unit_type to take a reference instead of a pointer
20130116 14:30:11< irker258> wesnoth: that was assumed to be (and in fact always was) non-NULL.
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20130116 15:29:50< irker258> wesnoth: jamit * r56068 /trunk/src/ai/ (contexts.hpp contexts.cpp default/attack.cpp): 
20130116 15:29:50< irker258> wesnoth: Introduce a typedef to make some of the code more readable.
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20130116 17:07:59< fendrin> "Tooltip for the movement points display shows the movement costs." Espreon, can you give me a better sentence?
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20130116 17:21:06< irker258> wesnoth: fendrin * r56069 /trunk/ (players_changelog src/reports.cpp changelog): 
20130116 17:21:06< irker258> wesnoth: Tooltip for the moves now displays the movement costs in the sidebar.
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20130116 17:32:26< Max20010> i just tried to compile wesnoth using visual studio 2008 but i'm missing the boost bzip2 libraries - is there an updated package to download somewhere?
20130116 17:35:14< Max20010> i was planning to test http://gna.org/patch/?3591 but i'm too lazy to build those libs from scratch
20130116 17:35:23< AI0867> I'm not sure if anyone has done that yet
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20130116 18:14:11< irker258> wesnoth: mattsc * r56070 /trunk/src/ (10 files): 
20130116 18:14:12< irker258> wesnoth: Set up multiplayer games started from the commandline equivalently to lobby games.
20130116 18:14:12< irker258> wesnoth: This means that parameters now use the correct default values, scenarios using
20130116 18:14:13< irker258> wesnoth: random maps work and side leaders always have unique IDs.
20130116 18:14:13< irker258> wesnoth: Scenario and side parameters are defined as follows, in order of increasing priority:
20130116 18:14:14< irker258> wesnoth:   Wesnoth defaults --> map settings --> commandline-specified values
20130116 18:14:14< irker258> wesnoth: All modifications are in a code path separate from lobby games (as it was before),
20130116 18:14:15< irker258> wesnoth: (Log message trimmed.)
20130116 18:15:05< mattsc> Ah, too bad.  One of the lines trimmed was:
20130116 18:15:07< mattsc> This fixes bugs #19853, #19883, #19895 and #20009.
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20130116 18:15:19< mattsc> fendrin: ^
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20130116 18:24:21< fendrin> mattsc: Great :-)
20130116 18:25:33< mattsc> fendrin: question: in that bug report https://gna.org/bugs/?20009 , the original bug is fixed, while the comment submitted by FAAB is, I believe, unrelated.  How do I deal with that?
20130116 18:25:53< mattsc> Does the bug count as fixed with that?
20130116 18:26:43< fendrin> mattsc: The unrelated issue needs to get its own report.
20130116 18:27:14< mattsc> Ok, I'll put that into my reply then.
20130116 18:29:44< fendrin> mattsc: Yes, the bug is best opened by FAAB.
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20130116 18:33:06< jamit> Max20010: You could try the links in the last post here: http://forum.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=18877&start=180
20130116 18:33:31< jamit> I don't know if they are correct for you, but they were used to get the game to compile under Windows, so they might help.
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20130116 18:46:53< jamit> mattsc: src/multiplayer_connect.hpp:131: error: extra qualification ‘mp::connect::side::’ on member ‘set_faction_commandline’
20130116 18:47:33< mattsc> jamit: umm, I don't get that ...
20130116 18:47:55< jamit> The game didn't compile after I updated.
20130116 18:48:08< jamit> That's the error message.
20130116 18:48:33< mattsc> Let me run an svn update and try to recompile ...
20130116 18:48:35< jamit> Just some extra stuff from a copy-and-paste somewhere.
20130116 18:49:47< jamit> mattsc: Also, I'm getting some warning about comparing signed and unsigned types.
20130116 18:49:48< mattsc> Ugh, yes, I see it!
20130116 18:50:02< mattsc> Not sure how that happen, sorry for that.
20130116 18:50:34< jamit> No big deal. It's simple to fix, as long as it does get fixed. ;)
20130116 18:50:48< mattsc> Hmm, about the comparison, apparently my compiler does not show those (mordante found one in a previous commit also).  Let me look into that.
20130116 18:51:02< mattsc> I probably need to change a compile option somewhere.
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20130116 18:53:02< jamit> If you want, I can clear up the comparisons.
20130116 18:53:27< jamit> But, yeah, you might want to look into the compile options for the future.
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20130116 18:53:50< mattsc> How about both?  :)
20130116 18:55:23< mattsc> I'll commit the other fix in a moment, but I hadn't updated in a while so compiling is taking a little.
20130116 18:56:27< jamit> Guess that's my fault. I've been messing with some headers included seemingly everywhere. :)
20130116 18:59:14< irker258> wesnoth: mattsc * r56071 /trunk/src/multiplayer_connect.hpp: 
20130116 18:59:14< irker258> wesnoth: Fix a function declaration
20130116 18:59:23< mattsc> jamit: hope that works now ^
20130116 19:05:06< irker258> wesnoth: jamit * r56072 /trunk/src/multiplayer_connect.cpp: 
20130116 19:05:06< irker258> wesnoth: Fix comparisons between signed and unsigned types.
20130116 19:05:07< jamit> Yep, got a clean compile.
20130116 19:06:12< mattsc> Great.  And thanks for the conversion fixes.
20130116 19:12:05< irker258> wesnoth: alarantalara * r56073 /trunk/projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: 
20130116 19:12:05< irker258> wesnoth: Add more warning flags when compiling with Xcode
20130116 19:12:38< Alarantalara> And now I have about 70 warnings I need to deal with in OS X specific code :(
20130116 19:12:50< mattsc> Alarantalara: oh, hey, I don't even need to do it myself...
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20130116 19:15:59< irker258> wesnoth: Eliminate a string variable through inlining.
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20130116 20:04:36< shadowm> zookeeper: The Far North somehow seemed larger in the old maps.
20130116 20:04:52< zookeeper> shadowm, it was
20130116 20:05:47< zookeeper> i trimmed it down because the stuff in the northeast wasn't used for anything and it made the continent have too much of a boring box shape, and then i just scaled the whole thing down a bit
20130116 20:06:11< shadowm> That's a pity. But I guess I can work with that and the excuse of some M 10 earthquake happening at the Fall.
20130116 20:06:17< zookeeper> and i got rid of the extra region between the wesnoth map and the far north mostly because of SotBE continuity reasons
20130116 20:06:53< zookeeper> shadowm, well, are there some specific changes you have a problem with?
20130116 20:07:32< shadowm> Nah, just the reduction in surface in general.
20130116 20:07:54< shadowm> But it's okay; I have deliberately avoided laying out any specific geography for the Great Continent post-Fall because it gives me greater artistic freedom (writing-wise).
20130116 20:08:08< zookeeper> all right
20130116 20:08:32< irker258> wesnoth: alarantalara * r56075 /trunk/projectfiles/Xcode/Wesnoth.xcodeproj/project.pbxproj: 
20130116 20:08:33< irker258> wesnoth: Add even more warnings when building with Xcode
20130116 20:08:54< shadowm> It may become a problem if someone eventually decides UtBS needs a map, though.
20130116 20:09:24< shadowm> I don't think a map would benefit UtBS in any way given that the characters are supposed to be completely clueless about the setting beyond the portion of the desert they inhabit.
20130116 20:10:33< shadowm> And if UtBS gets a map and I don't like it, then I will have a problem since IftU and AtS take less than 300 years afterwards with no big plate-reshaping cataclysm in between.
20130116 20:10:33< zookeeper> well i don't think any location in UtBS clearly corresponds with any pre-fall location?
20130116 20:11:07< zookeeper> or did you mean that a canon UtBS map would be problematic for you?
20130116 20:11:20< shadowm> The latter.
20130116 20:11:56< shadowm> But I've always gone with the notion that UtBS' beginning takes place _somewhere_ within the previous borders of Wesnoth or a very close country.
20130116 20:13:08< shadowm> I've also always assumed that the region depicted in "Blood is Thicker than Water" used to be somewhere around Elensefar's capital.
20130116 20:13:08< zookeeper> yeah. i've figured it'd be at the south parts of wesnoth, and the big mountain range they go under would be the heart mountains
20130116 20:13:32< zookeeper> but... as far as i'm concerned, anything goes
20130116 20:14:28< shadowm> Hm, when making IftU I had decided that the UtBS elves went under some mountain range south from the Great River.
20130116 20:15:15< shadowm> Since otherwise they'd have been extremely likely to stumble upon Wesmere, which is depicted in IftU and AtS as a vast land of death.
20130116 20:15:44< zookeeper> there's a lot of space east of wesmere
20130116 20:17:14< shadowm> Yeah, that's true, and it was also subject to cataclysmic-reshaping.
20130116 20:17:35< shadowm> Hm, I just noticed Glamdrol is missing from your map.
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20130116 20:18:21< zookeeper> yeah, i removed that and rumyr, because those don't really feature anywhere either as far as i've seen
20130116 20:18:52< zookeeper> there's space for them if someone wants to put them on their map
20130116 20:19:22< shadowm> One could say Aldril, Carcyn, and Soradoc don't feature anywhere either though.
20130116 20:19:34< shadowm> Except as reference points, at least in the latter case.
20130116 20:21:26< zookeeper> soradoc is named once in EI :p
20130116 20:21:52< shadowm> Hence a reference point.
20130116 20:22:58< shadowm> Another odd thing about these maps is the rendering of the forests. The trees seem too carefully painted for what's supposed to be a classical map, especially compared to settlements, hills, and mountain ranges.
20130116 20:23:33< shadowm> (In fact they look like you either used a lot of copy-pasting, the clone tool, a custom brush, or all three of them.)
20130116 20:24:27< shadowm> But since I'm no artist and definitely not a cartographer, you may feel free to ignore that comment.
20130116 20:24:29< zookeeper> just a single bitmap and treething: http://www.cartographersguild.com/mapping-elements/11361-treething.html (awesome app, completely saved me)
20130116 20:25:13< zookeeper> anyway, yes, i guess there's a discrepancy there, but i didn't really find any other way to draw forests in a pretty way
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20130116 20:27:41< Alarantalara> shadowm: Aldril and Carcyn are both mentioned in Liberty, and Carcyn is the place you sneak around in scenario 5
20130116 20:28:12< shadowm> zookeeper: Is the Sleepless Sea in the southern portion supposed to be a landlocked sea?
20130116 20:28:21< shadowm> Alarantalara: Oh, _that_ campaign. :p
20130116 20:28:47< shadowm> So Aldril and Soradoc remain reference points, and Carcyn gets to be actually depicted in gameplay.
20130116 20:29:45< shadowm> So does Parthyn, which mysteriously appears and disappears from the current maps depending on the campaign; I guess it's because it's a minor town?
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20130116 20:31:41< Alarantalara> What order were the campaigns added? It might be that later ones didn't come with changes to the primary map
20130116 20:31:46< shadowm> Hm, okay, DM doesn't have its own map, so although it does feature Parthyn (or a region nearby) in scenario 12, it doesn't get to appear in any map other than DiD's.
20130116 20:35:31< zookeeper> shadowm, no, it's connected to the ocean
20130116 20:35:46< zookeeper> Alarantalara, oh, good catch about the towns
20130116 20:36:07< zookeeper> anyway, yes, i didn't add parthyn to the wesnoth map because it's a minor town and might not have been founded at the time of HttT anyway
20130116 20:36:30< zookeeper> (maybe it was, but it's still a minor enough town to not warrant an appearance on the big bigmaps, just like delwyn and dallben etc)
20130116 20:36:55< shadowm> ISTR DiD taking place before DM, not sure.
20130116 20:37:23< shadowm> I lost interest in mainline story after a certain guy went around changing everything at whim for a while.
20130116 20:37:34< zookeeper> i know the feeling
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20130116 20:37:44< shadowm> In particular because of his interest in shoehorning random UMC.
20130116 20:38:12< Alarantalara> DM claims to be about 90 years after DiD in the comments for the scenario about Parthyn
20130116 20:38:31< zookeeper> that's odd. i've always mentally placed DiD very late in the timeline
20130116 20:38:49< zookeeper> oh well. maybe they just got sacked by the orcs.
20130116 20:39:05< shadowm> I think DiD used to be later like that before the big timeline rearrangement.
20130116 20:39:14< zookeeper> quite possible
20130116 20:41:26< zookeeper> i find it particularly funny that anduin got renamed because it's in LotR, but then the three sisters were added even though they're in ASoIaF :p
20130116 20:42:37< Alarantalara> what about Konrad remaining the only real name?
20130116 20:42:52< shadowm> Alarantalara: ssh.
20130116 20:42:59< shadowm> That's our little secret.
20130116 20:45:11< shadowm> Hm, Frosty Wastes in the Far North map is probably tundra?
20130116 20:45:42< zookeeper> yeah, i also want desert of death to be turned into a generic dry wasteland rather than a hot desert
20130116 20:47:30< zookeeper> barren plains i added there to fill some of the empty space, not intended to be completely devoid of life though, just generally flat and featureless and unable to sustain a large population
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20130116 21:57:57< irker258> wesnoth: mattsc * r56076 /trunk/src/multiplayer.cpp: 
20130116 21:57:58< irker258> wesnoth: The MP lobby code specifically sets share_view=yes if it is not specified
20130116 21:57:58< irker258> wesnoth: for a side in the scenario code.  Do the same for commandline MP games.
20130116 22:05:13< irker258> wesnoth: jamit * r56077 /trunk/src/unit.cpp: 
20130116 22:05:13< irker258> wesnoth: No need to set these fields twice in the constructor. (I checked -- nothing changes
20130116 22:05:14< irker258> wesnoth: them after the initialization list.)
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20130116 22:35:26< irker258> wesnoth: fendrin * r56078 /trunk/src/reports.cpp: 
20130116 22:35:26< irker258> wesnoth: Added color coding for the tod tooltip.
20130116 22:40:19< shadowm> In 1.10, undoing a move doesn't trigger a moveto event, does it?
20130116 22:42:18< shadowm> Yeah, it doesn't.
20130116 22:42:28< shadowm> That is... kind of a problem for what I'm attempting to do here.
20130116 22:44:46< zookeeper> i didn't think undoing has ever triggered it
20130116 22:44:51< shadowm> It doesn't in trunk either, of course.
20130116 22:44:52< zookeeper> but maybe wb is supposed to be different
20130116 22:45:27< shadowm> Whiteboard is pointless for single player.
20130116 22:48:01< shadowm> Also, unit orbs do not seem to be instantly updated when WML unstores a unit after changing its remaining MP.
20130116 22:48:19< shadowm> They are updated when the user mouses over the unit instead, which is a little inconvenient.
20130116 22:49:14< shadowm> Ah, disregard that. A [redraw] solves it.
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20130116 23:19:45< Upth> can someone point me to wesnoth's external dependency package?
20130116 23:20:18< Upth> or a page that collects all the necessary links?
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20130116 23:25:38< AI0867> for windows?
20130116 23:27:07< AI0867> there should be a link in the release,compile&install forum, but I don't think it's been updated for the new 1.11 dependencies yet
20130116 23:27:10< AI0867> Upthorn: ^
20130116 23:27:23< Upthorn> for windows
20130116 23:28:19< Upthorn> thanks
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20130116 23:45:44< fendrin> hi Gambit
20130116 23:45:54< Gambit> Hey fendrin.
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