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20130106 07:43:50< resurtm> Hello! Could anybody please explain me one thing related to the addons? I'm going to download needed addons through website (here: http://add-ons.wesnoth.org/). I have Wesnoth 1.10.5 (stable). But in the list of the Wesnoth versions there are 1.9 and 1.11. What directory should i use to download addons?
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20130106 07:44:27< resurtm> Is 1.11 addons directory compatible with 1.10 game version?
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20130106 10:48:31< lipkab> resurtm|2: Use the 1.9 folder. 1.11 add-ons may or may not be compatible.
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20130106 11:09:44< resurtm|2> lipkab: thanks!
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20130106 11:11:51< resurtm|2> Another question. I've installed fresh Wesnoth game (all preferences, cache and data files were removed too). And then installed Ageless Era through in-game addons manager. But  when i'm trying to create new multiplayer game with this era i have following issue: instead of normal Ageless Era unit icons it displays me empty icons.
20130106 11:12:07< resurtm|2> Is that known issue/bug/behavior? How can i fix it? Thanks in advance!
20130106 11:14:10< zookeeper> ageless era is known to be broken pretty often
20130106 11:14:20< zookeeper> and i wouldn't recommend it to anyone anyway, so... :p
20130106 11:16:13< resurtm|2> zookeeper: oh, okay. Didn't faced this peculiarity. Could you please suggest another rich and good era? Especially for SX games.
20130106 11:17:17< resurtm|2> Default era a bit boring for now, after playing tons of SX games.
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20130106 11:20:09< zookeeper> i'm not really familiar with umc eras, but i suppose a lot of people like era of magic (pretty grandiose and extravagant) or era of myths (no idea what state it is in) and maybe even imperial era (more historically inspired)
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20130106 11:22:56 * Hanmac likes myths era because of the Vampires :D
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20130106 11:30:41< resurtm> zookeeper: thanks! Will try them. ;-)
20130106 11:35:47< Hanmac> the only thing that is anoying is that some packs are class them as undead and not as vamps ... (i think we need some kind of sub-races)
20130106 11:37:09< resurtm> There are two Imperia Era addons: first one is called "Imperial Era", while the second one "Imperial Era Fixed". Is latter addon absolutelry necessary?
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20130106 11:39:36< resurtm> Nevermind.
20130106 11:39:45< zookeeper> i'm sure it's the one you want to pick
20130106 11:39:55< zookeeper> no idea why the other one hasn't been removed, though
20130106 11:40:32< resurtm> Okay, got it. :)
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20130106 11:51:55< Hanmac> hm is it me or is the "War of Chaos Era" broken? i got missing macro/file about a missing map ?
20130106 11:53:11< zookeeper> unfortunately people upload broken stuff all the time
20130106 11:53:21< Hanmac> hm okay
20130106 11:54:27< Hanmac> hm imo the Epoch packs with new races/units should be some kind of meta package so the races should be extra so that multible Epoch packs that uses the same units/races can depend on them
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20130106 12:02:57< resurtm> It seems that it was not addon issue. Same bug with EoM era: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/916366/eom-wes.png Ageless Era bug: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/916366/wesnoth-ageless.png
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20130106 12:04:47< Hanmac> resurtm huch are you maybe on ubuntu or debian?
20130106 12:05:53< zookeeper> resurtm, also, did you restart wesnoth after downloading the add-on(s)? if not, you might want to try it
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20130106 12:06:16< zookeeper> i don't think it's supposed to be required anymore, but who knows
20130106 12:06:20< resurtm> zookeeper: sure, i did.
20130106 12:07:12< zookeeper> so you're on 1.10.x?
20130106 12:08:31< resurtm> Yes, Wesnoth 1.10.5, MS Windows 7, x86. MD5 of the MSI distro file correct (checked it twice). Didn't tried it on GNU/Linux, maybe will do that soon.
20130106 12:09:28< zookeeper> odd. i grabbed EoM from the 1.10 add-on server and there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with its code.
20130106 12:09:35< zookeeper> can you pastebin the contents of your stderr.txt?
20130106 12:12:31< zookeeper> anyway, it works for me without any problems. i've chosen to keep userdata in the install dir though, so maybe it could be an access permissions thing... somehow.
20130106 12:13:25< resurtm> zookeeper: one moment. Before pasting stderr.txt i will try to clean cache and restart Wesnoth.
20130106 12:13:39< resurtm> Yes, will try to store data files in the installation directory.
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20130106 12:14:36< resurtm> But, storing data files in user's home directory used to be working solution in the past. =\
20130106 12:15:16< zookeeper> yeah i'm not saying that's the problem, but since i don't have any other ideas...
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20130106 12:16:24< zookeeper> (or at least i won't have before seeing what your stderr has to say about it)
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20130106 12:17:47< resurtm> zookeeper: there was old stderr.txt with errors happened on 31st December. I don't think these log entries were actual so i've just deleted the whole file. Then i have cleaned game cache and started it again. stderr.txt did not occured.
20130106 12:18:15< resurtm> Yes, i've tried to run the game with EoM.
20130106 12:18:22< zookeeper> uh
20130106 12:18:46< resurtm> start the game* (to be precise)
20130106 12:19:25< zookeeper> are you absolutely sure that you don't have another wesnoth version interfering somehow?
20130106 12:20:26< zookeeper> i think you said so, but mistakes happen and i'd like to be sure :>
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20130106 12:21:56< resurtm> I'm not entierly sure, but in Control Panel -> Programs and Components there is just one Wesnoth related entry: "Battle for Wesnoth 1.10.5". Note that there was an old version of Wesnoth before i've installed 1.10.5, but i'm absolutely sure that i've removed it properly.
20130106 12:22:24< resurtm> So yes, i can say that there is only one installation.
20130106 12:23:46< resurtm> Trying now the way with storing user data in Program Files (x86) directory.
20130106 12:24:15< zookeeper> well it's pretty peculiar if an stderr.txt doesn't appear in the install directory when running the game
20130106 12:25:17< blarumyrran> resurtm, what if you install the addons and play the game as admin
20130106 12:26:30< zookeeper> oh, right. that. are you logged in as a limited user or with admin rights?
20130106 12:28:18< resurtm> Yes, i'm working as user with limited rights (i prefer to use MS Windows UAC). Okay, will try that scenario too in 10-15 minutes.
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20130106 12:50:39< resurtm> Great! Both ways (1. running the game as administrator aka sudo, 2. changing directory permissions to be more permissive) are working as it should be. I wonder why it used to work without additional manipulations 1 or 2 years ago.
20130106 12:51:10< resurtm> zookeeper: blarumyrran: thank you for assisting with this issue and spending your time. :-)
20130106 12:52:11< resurtm> (Note: both ways assume that userdata stored in the same directory, with the game.)
20130106 12:52:55 * resurtm is going to enjoy Wesnoth immediately. :D
20130106 13:05:13< zookeeper> cool
20130106 13:05:22< zookeeper> and yeah, i have no idea why it didn't work out of the box
20130106 13:05:48< zookeeper> did you originally _install_ the game as admin?
20130106 13:06:11< zookeeper> if not then i can understand why it'd not work right, although of course it should still tell you about it
20130106 13:10:25< resurtm> zookeeper: yes, all my installation attempts were made as administrator. Setup file just asks administrator permissions (i.e. popup window which obscures/darkens everything else appears) when i click on its icon.
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20130106 18:48:14< Hanmac> what engine does wesnoth use for drawing? i may use some stuff for a more "heroes" like game (with buildings and unit stacks)
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20130106 18:49:39< zookeeper> Hanmac, wesnoth isn't based on another engine
20130106 18:50:27< Hanmac> oh ... :/
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