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20130203 09:08:30< mordante|FOSDEM> servus
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20130203 10:41:30< shadowm> boucman|FOSDEM: So I asked the other day whether Coffee should be a C & W Contributor already or not.
20130203 10:41:42< shadowm> I either missed your answer or never got one.
20130203 10:42:06< boucman|FOSDEM> I missed your question :P
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20130203 10:42:17< boucman|FOSDEM> he can definitely be a C&W 
20130203 10:42:25< boucman|FOSDEM> question is more about svn access :)
20130203 10:42:35< boucman|FOSDEM> i'll wait a little more but he's on his way
20130203 10:42:53< shadowm> I think it's always good to give people a chance to develop a more orderly workflow.
20130203 10:43:56< boucman|FOSDEM> can you do this now ? or do you want me to do it ?
20130203 10:44:19< Ivanovic> morning
20130203 10:44:27< mordante|FOSDEM> hi Ivanovic 
20130203 10:44:27< Ivanovic> is the games devroom working out?
20130203 10:44:33< mordante|FOSDEM> yes 
20130203 10:44:34< boucman|FOSDEM> yes
20130203 10:44:44< Ivanovic> cool
20130203 10:44:46< shadowm> boucman|FOSDEM: I already did it.
20130203 10:45:01< boucman|FOSDEM> great, thx
20130203 10:45:04< Ivanovic> boucman|FOSDEM: has michaellarabel contacted you about the possibility of him filling the now open slot?
20130203 10:45:11< shadowm> Blarghle.
20130203 10:45:17< boucman|FOSDEM> no...
20130203 10:45:24< boucman|FOSDEM> what game, what talk ?
20130203 10:45:24< mordante|FOSDEM> shadowm, you seem to like him :-P
20130203 10:45:43< shadowm> mordante|FOSDEM: :)
20130203 10:45:51< Ivanovic> some more general talk about graphics related to games
20130203 10:45:55< Ivanovic> so more on the drivers side
20130203 10:46:04< Ivanovic> and more of a questions and answers session
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20130203 11:09:47< mordante|FOSDEM> we get some tips... we need to use GitHub ;-)
20130203 11:13:04< boucman|FOSDEM> hehe
20130203 11:13:16 * boucman|FOSDEM agrees on that
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20130203 12:56:52< timotei> anonymisimus: Hi. Yes I am now.
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20130203 13:04:34< boucman|FOSDEM> darn, missing speaker :(
20130203 13:08:52< boucman|FOSDEM> Ivanovic: you wouldn't have a way to contact the gluon guy, by any chance ?
20130203 13:09:02< Ivanovic> boucman|FOSDEM: no
20130203 13:09:10< boucman|FOSDEM> :(
20130203 13:09:19< Ivanovic> only his email address from the devroom ml
20130203 13:10:19< boucman|FOSDEM> ok, thx
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20130203 14:10:49< AI0867|FOSDEM> fendrin: we've had some annoying trouble with your "reverse movement" feature during presentations
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20130203 15:04:01< grzywacz> ¡hola!
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20130203 15:13:25< mordante|FOSDEM> hi grzywacz 
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20130203 15:18:45< grzywacz> mordante|FOSDEM, oh, it's FOSDEM week? Hi!
20130203 15:20:11< mordante|FOSDEM> grzywacz, yup
20130203 15:21:07< grzywacz> mordante|FOSDEM, seen this? http://google-opensource.blogspot.in/2013/01/c-containers-that-save-memory-and-time.html
20130203 15:21:15< vultraz> how's FOSDEM going?
20130203 15:23:05< mordante|FOSDEM> grzywacz, no and it seems FF doesn't like the site (might be my version of FF)
20130203 15:23:34< grzywacz> mordante|FOSDEM, strange. Worth taking a look, I think.
20130203 15:23:51< mordante|FOSDEM> vultraz, oke one speaker was not there and seems most speakers have more time than they need
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20130203 15:26:52< mordante|FOSDEM> grzywacz, read it at AI0867|FOSDEM's system and indeed interesting
20130203 15:27:08< mordante|FOSDEM> I recall reading about this kind of thing before
20130203 15:27:13< AI0867|FOSDEM> works fine on chromium 23
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20130203 16:41:24< mordante|FOSDEM> I'm off bye
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20130203 16:44:11< AI0867|FOSDEM> boucman: the discussion was essentially your talk from last year
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20130203 19:09:42< shadowm> esr: What's your svn to git conversion tool again? reposurgeon itself?
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20130203 19:37:01< esr> shadowm: Yes.  There is currently nothing else that does a better job.  It handles some cvs2svn-spawned pathologies that git-svn gets wrong. 
20130203 19:37:54< shadowm> Excellent, I'll keep procrastinating then since last time I checked the documentation was still too dense.
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20130203 19:56:08< esr> shadowm: What, the documentation for reposurgeon?  Count your blessings - at least it *is* documented.  Most of these tools aren't.
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20130203 19:57:10< shadowm> git-svn is also documented.
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20130203 20:05:39< irker090> wesnoth: jamit * r56169 /trunk/src/actions/ (undo.cpp move.cpp vision.cpp vision.hpp): 
20130203 20:05:39< irker090> wesnoth: Give animations a chance (optional) to progress while fog/shroud clearing occurs.
20130203 20:05:40< irker090> wesnoth: This should help with bug #20324, maybe fix it.
20130203 20:05:40< irker090> wesnoth: The chance is optional because there are times when we do not want the delays, such
20130203 20:05:41< irker090> wesnoth: as when starting a scenario.
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20130203 20:20:41< irker090> wesnoth: jamit * r56170 /trunk/ (src/actions/undo.cpp players_changelog changelog): 
20130203 20:20:41< irker090> wesnoth: Make the update of fog/shroud (after enabling delayed shroud updates) gradual.
20130203 20:20:42< irker090> wesnoth: This is possible as a side-effect of r56169. I think it looks kind of cool, but
20130203 20:20:43< irker090> wesnoth: if it turns out to be a bad idea, it can be easily reverted (just a matter of
20130203 20:20:43< irker090> wesnoth: changing a single "false" to "true").
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20130203 21:34:44< boucman> Ivanovic: fun fact
20130203 21:35:00< boucman> when I left the greek yesterday the waiter said to me "see you next year"
20130203 21:35:08< boucman> I guess we are not incognito anymore :P
20130203 21:39:00< AI0867> boucman: do you know what we talked about during the discussion after you left?
20130203 21:39:08< boucman> nope
20130203 21:39:18< AI0867> essentially your talk from last year, in a less organized form
20130203 21:39:30< boucman> balancing games ?
20130203 21:39:36< AI0867> er, wait
20130203 21:39:40< AI0867> not *your* talk from last year
20130203 21:39:45< AI0867> but one of the wesnoth ones
20130203 21:39:58< boucman> ok, so what was the subject ?
20130203 21:40:27< AI0867> that or I don't remember something properly
20130203 21:41:02< AI0867> artist and how to attract and keep them
20130203 21:41:06< AI0867> artists
20130203 21:41:22< AI0867> crab took like 10 minutes to get all the suggestions for subjects
20130203 21:41:28< boucman> oh, yes, my talk from two years ago :P
20130203 21:41:28< AI0867> and then we got stuck on the first subject
20130203 21:41:50< AI0867> ah
20130203 21:41:56< boucman> or was it...
20130203 21:42:07< boucman> I know I did that talk at RMLL, i'm not sure about FOSDEM
20130203 21:42:31< AI0867> ah
20130203 21:42:39< AI0867> I can't find it here: https://archive.fosdem.org/2011/schedule/devrooms.html
20130203 21:42:48< AI0867> but I do remember stuff about it rather well
20130203 21:43:08< AI0867> but I was echoing stuff from that and jetrel all the way through the discussion
20130203 21:45:51< AI0867> shadowm: reposurgeon uses git-svn internally (as a first step) according to http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=3839
20130203 21:48:07< esr> AI0867: No longer.  reposurgeon now has its own parser for Subversion dumpfiles.  It toolk me a year of hard work to get that right, but now that I have reposurgeon can do a significantly better job than git-svn.
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20130203 21:49:39< mordante> servus
20130203 21:55:01< shadowm> Well, if anyone can take a look into converting AtS and AtS alone to Git good for them, but I have better things to do than to figure out things on my own.
20130203 21:55:17< shadowm> *, good
20130203 21:59:28< grzywacz> boucman, lol @ greek
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20130203 22:09:57< QKO> hi
20130203 22:10:00< QKO> who of you were at fosdem game development room?:p
20130203 22:10:13< mordante> I was
20130203 22:10:24< QKO> I know AI0867 was
20130203 22:10:58< QKO> I was the guy who started about open source game graphical quality:p
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20130203 22:12:09< mordante> already had that feeling a little bit ;-)
20130203 22:12:37< QKO> what triggered that perception?:D
20130203 22:13:14< mordante> the fact that you're from the Netherlands
20130203 22:13:41< mordante> and you talked to AI0867 after the event
20130203 22:13:50< QKO> hehe:D
20130203 22:14:12< bumbadadabum> Are there more notable dutch forum members?
20130203 22:14:17< QKO> sorry for hijacking the discussion like that:p
20130203 22:15:01< mordante> well we had to discuss something
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20130203 22:15:21< QKO> I heard a few supposedly good engines are out there, do you know where I can find them?
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20130203 22:15:43< AI0867> depends on what kind of engine you're looking for
20130203 22:15:54< QKO> lets say 2D engine
20130203 22:16:22< AI0867> highly scriptable random 2D stuff (without (tested) netcode): frogatto
20130203 22:16:51< QKO> it doesn't have to be scriptable
20130203 22:16:59< AI0867> I do mean random, the main game is a platformer, but a puzzle game, RTS-like game and card game have also been written
20130203 22:17:26< AI0867> wesnoth's engine is unsuitable for anything but turn-based strategy
20130203 22:17:41< AI0867> realtime?
20130203 22:18:34< QKO> I don't want to make a strategy game, I want to try something along the lines of a fightinggame
20130203 22:19:33< AI0867> well, if you want MP, then you need to talk to engine devs if you want to use frogatto's engine. I'm not really familiar with many other 2D engines
20130203 22:19:51< mordante> the Pandora talk mentioned some engine, but I'm also not familiar with them
20130203 22:19:54< AI0867> if you don't care about MP, you can start coding right now
20130203 22:20:26< AI0867> I didn't keep track of all the stuff in the pandora talk
20130203 22:20:59< mordante> no but the presentation might be online at some time
20130203 22:21:04< QKO> MP->multiplatform or multiplayer?
20130203 22:21:26< AI0867> player
20130203 22:21:46< AI0867> there is netcode (or there was), but there isn't any game that uses it
20130203 22:22:16< AI0867> anyway: #frogatto
20130203 22:23:02< QKO> hmph
20130203 22:23:29< lipkab> QKO: CryEngine is free for non-commercial use. I suppose that's a good enough engine? ;)
20130203 22:24:31< QKO> for a 2D fighter?
20130203 22:28:00< lipkab> It's suitable for about anything, I guess.
20130203 22:28:33< lipkab> Though it's definitely not open source.
20130203 22:28:51< bumbadadabum> CryEngine is as good as it gets
20130203 22:29:20< lipkab> ...and I suspect it doesn't run on the Pandora :P
20130203 22:31:07< bumbadadabum> Has anyone played the Crysis 3 beta?
20130203 22:31:27< lipkab> Nah, I'm on Linux.
20130203 22:31:53< bumbadadabum> Well, it's amazing
20130203 22:32:21< lipkab> The only thing that interests me in Crysis is the music.
20130203 22:32:30< bumbadadabum> Not the visuals?
20130203 22:33:41< lipkab> I don't have not the appropriate OS nor the proper hardware to run it, so I don't know much about the visuals.
20130203 22:33:51< lipkab> s/not/nor
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20130203 22:34:33< bumbadadabum> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z51-LlBVkWw
20130203 22:34:37< bumbadadabum> I found this video
20130203 22:35:23< bumbadadabum> Man, I wish I had a monster pc that could run it with those settings
20130203 22:37:25< lipkab> Well, that's certainly impressive.
20130203 22:37:51< bumbadadabum> It's already very good on the xbox
20130203 22:38:08< bumbadadabum> which sadly has better specs than my computer
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20130203 22:40:36< lipkab> Still, the best thing about Crysis is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v09q3R_QzTY
20130203 22:40:48< lipkab> Hans Zimmer is a genius.
20130203 22:41:31< bumbadadabum> yeah
20130203 22:55:51< mordante> I'm off night
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20130203 22:56:54< Gambit> QKO: the frogatto engine would work fine for a 2D fighter
20130203 23:04:59< zookeeper> hans zimmer wrote the crysis (any of them) soundtrack?
20130203 23:06:45< lipkab> zookeeper: Yes, he wrote the music for C2 and afaik he writes the soundtrack for C3 too.
20130203 23:08:43< zookeeper> didn't know that
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20130203 23:58:53< lipkab> wesbot: seen Ayne
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