--- Log opened Tue Feb 12 00:00:06 2013 20130212 00:03:00-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 00:08:44-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20130212 00:10:17-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 00:11:46-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-20-2.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 00:13:59-!- trewe [~trewe@87-196-70-225.net.novis.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20130212 00:18:41-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-20-2.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20130212 00:21:56-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20130212 00:23:17-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 00:36:40-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: I go to bed now] 20130212 00:40:04-!- AndroUser2 [~androirc@139.179.206.243] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 00:41:22-!- AndroUser2 is now known as Artemius 20130212 00:49:30< Artemius> Hi all 20130212 00:50:47< Artemius> Will Wesnoth apply for GSoC 2013? 20130212 01:15:51-!- irker532 [~irker@ai0867.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 01:15:51< irker532> wesnoth: ai0867 * r56302 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/wescamp.py: 20130212 01:15:51< irker532> wesnoth: Remove old --git option from wescamp.py 20130212 01:15:53< irker532> wesnoth: ai0867 * r56303 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/wescamp.py: 20130212 01:15:53< irker532> wesnoth: Add --branch option to wescamp so we don't have to infer this from the wescamp checkout path 20130212 01:15:55< irker532> wesnoth: ai0867 * r56305 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/wescamp.py: 20130212 01:15:56< irker532> wesnoth: Check for the configuration we need and only the configuration we actually need 20130212 01:15:57< irker532> wesnoth: ai0867 * r56304 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/wescamp.py: 20130212 01:15:57< irker532> wesnoth: Use --branch to determine addon server port if not specified 20130212 01:15:59< irker532> wesnoth: ai0867 * r56306 /trunk/data/tools/wesnoth/wescamp.py: 20130212 01:15:59< irker532> wesnoth: Add an --error-log option to wescamp.py, which writes warnings and errors to a specified file 20130212 01:17:34-!- mattsc [~mattsc@fw.hia.nrc.ca] has quit [Quit: I'm asleep] 20130212 01:39:55-!- mattsc [~mattsc@d154-20-32-241.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 01:53:08-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130212 02:00:37-!- cjhopman_ [cjhopman@nat/google/x-xgpagstdlfjzyeqi] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 02:02:00-!- Alarantalara [~Adium@173.33.158.188] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 02:05:19-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 02:05:47-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has quit [Changing host] 20130212 02:05:47-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 02:20:47-!- Artemius [~androirc@139.179.206.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20130212 02:21:53-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@76.202.20.2] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 02:28:05-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20130212 02:40:15-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20130212 02:53:54-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 03:02:50-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130212 03:04:51-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-029.rrw.residences.colby.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20130212 03:22:22< shadowm> Whoever implemented unstore_unit.check_passability in 1.9.x while not retaining the previous de-facto default and not honoring find_vacant=yes: 20130212 03:22:26< shadowm> I hate you. 20130212 03:30:08< _8680_> shadowm: 20130212 03:31:30< shadowm> I DID NOT WANT TO KNOW WHO IT WAS. :( 20130212 03:31:51< shadowm> Although I suspected as much. 20130212 03:31:57< _8680_> Eep. 20130212 03:43:27-!- esr [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/esr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20130212 04:09:28-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db2cc15.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 04:12:20-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20130212 04:13:21-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20130212 04:17:45-!- Alarantalara [~Adium@173.33.158.188] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20130212 04:32:30-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 04:39:49-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: [Relic] 20130212 04:46:44-!- Netsplit over, joins: [Relic] 20130212 05:01:15-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@g224181143.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130212 05:08:35-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130212 06:02:24-!- esr [~chatzilla@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 06:03:14-!- esr [~chatzilla@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 20130212 06:03:14-!- esr [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/esr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 06:03:25< esr> ettin: ping? 20130212 06:05:59< shadowm> Do you need him for something specific? 20130212 06:22:00< shadowm> esr: You do realize that all @gna.org emails are unreliable? 20130212 06:22:29< shadowm> They are automatically assigned and may become invalid if gna.org ever croaks like everyone's been predicting for a few years already. 20130212 06:23:09-!- Upth [~ogmar@108-85-91-228.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: this quit message is 100% guaranteed not to contain obscenity.] 20130212 06:23:44< esr> shadowm: I know. That's why I'd like to get people to put a preferred, stable address in the map. 20130212 06:39:51< shadowm> esr: Also, some active people are not even subscribed to the ML so they may miss your email. 20130212 06:40:34< esr> shadowm: Well, yes. Any suggestions? 20130212 06:41:00< shadowm> Forums, maybe. 20130212 06:41:57< shadowm> Otherwise ask someone who has access to the mailman admin interface to determine who are those people to contact them directly, since you old people detest forum boards. 20130212 06:42:12< shadowm> I know Jetrel is one such case. 20130212 06:42:29< shadowm> That is, of an active developer who is not subscribed. 20130212 06:42:58< shadowm> vultraz may be another case, but he's more like some kind of janitor kid atm than a developer. 20130212 06:43:12< shadowm> At least he generally seems oblivious of what's going on in the ML. 20130212 06:43:23< shadowm> Same goes for Gambit (Grickit). 20130212 06:44:32< esr> shadowm: Would you chase this issue, please? I'm going to have my hands full unsnarling the repository DAG - turns out I was overly optimistic, there are about half a dozen mid-branch deletes. That's not a good sign/ 20130212 06:44:39< shadowm> Of course, I could use my admin powers to PM the Developers group in the forums too, but that'd probably inconvenience the dozens of people who are not active nymore. 20130212 06:44:59< shadowm> But I would not take such a choice unless there was simply no other option. 20130212 06:45:20< shadowm> esr: I'm sorry, this kind of thing is really not my department. I'm just the forum admin, not the project coordinator. 20130212 06:45:26< shadowm> That'd be Ivanovic's task. 20130212 06:45:54< shadowm> I can help with making shit happen on the tech side, but I purposefully stay away from this kind of bureaucracy. 20130212 06:45:58< esr> Sigh. I suppose you're right/ 20130212 06:46:28< shadowm> Anyway, I'll follow up with my email address. 20130212 06:50:54-!- Upth [~ogmar@108-85-91-228.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 07:12:23-!- mattsc [~mattsc@d154-20-32-241.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20130212 07:13:15-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db2cc15.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Changing host] 20130212 07:13:16-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 07:14:26-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-168-48-246.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 07:23:57-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@76.202.20.2] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20130212 07:26:56-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.114.158.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 07:39:43-!- _8680_ [~quassel@68.225.249.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20130212 07:52:55-!- csarmi [csarmi@84-236-77-236.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 20130212 08:00:02-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [] 20130212 08:33:36-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130212 08:33:49-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 08:37:29-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.114.158.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130212 08:44:41-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 08:50:09-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 08:52:54< shadowm> fendrin: Hi. 20130212 08:53:18< shadowm> No wait, I won't do that thing you do were you just say "hi" and wait forever for a response, and I'll proceed to ask the questions directly instead. 20130212 08:53:21< shadowm> *where 20130212 08:53:30< shadowm> Also, you are fabi right now, not fendrin. 20130212 08:54:23< fabi> shadowm: hello 20130212 08:54:35< shadowm> fabi: So, what's up with the editor's: 1) issue where the brush size/form factor icons make them look like push buttons when they are not; and 2) palette overpainting issue which I had fixed in 1.9.x before you decided to rewrite everything for dubious reasons? 20130212 08:54:51< shadowm> Oh, damn, you managed to greet me back first. 20130212 08:55:15-!- boucman_work [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 08:55:37< shadowm> fabi: Additionally, I asked the other day about some insinuation that you are going to revert the in-game tile selection feature and I don't think I got an answer, so: is that actually going to happen? 20130212 08:59:13< fabi> I don't know about push buttons, I need to learn what that means before answering that. The fix for the overpainting bug is on its way. I think it is best to revert the in-game tile selection for now, assuming a new stable release is meant to be released soon. 20130212 08:59:39< shadowm> fabi: A push button is a button that looks visually depressed when you hold your mouse button on it. 20130212 08:59:45< shadowm> Like most buttons in Wesnoth. 20130212 09:00:20< fabi> The brushes look like they where pressed all the time? 20130212 09:00:20< shadowm> I also think you mean new development release. I'd prefer Ivanovic to not make another stable release until a couple of bugs are addressed. 20130212 09:00:29< shadowm> fabi: No, and that's the problem with them. 20130212 09:00:41< shadowm> They look like pushable buttons when they are not. 20130212 09:01:40< shadowm> So I'd rather revert them to their previous flat look unless you intend to actually make them behave like pushable buttons. 20130212 09:03:04< shadowm> I mean these, by the way: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21371130/screenshots/brush-icons.png 20130212 09:06:13-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 09:06:34< shadowm> One of these days I should get around to make a big meta-bug about all the UI consistency and usability issues that have piled up over time, including the editor. 20130212 09:06:53< fabi> I don't think that is easy doable, I will rather go with the old images. 20130212 09:07:08< shadowm> I'm seeing a behavioral issue right now; the editor palette is scrolled back to the top every time I open and close the main Preferences dialog. 20130212 09:07:48< shadowm> Which is odd, because I don't think there's anything in Preferences that should affect the editor palette? 20130212 09:08:54< shadowm> Ah right, never mind, it's a side-effect of Preferences not keeping track of whether any changes done while it's running really affect the game display. 20130212 09:09:41< shadowm> So it always calls a code path to redraw everything when closed. I had removed that for a while during 1.9.x and faced some rather dire consequences. 20130212 09:11:05< shadowm> Aside from rewriting this dialog in GUI2, we should also come up with a more solid mechanism to manage preferences so we can e.g. know whether they have been changed between calls, etc. 20130212 09:11:43< shadowm> But yeah, I suspect that'll inevitably end up in _my_ to-do list once I am done with my non-mainline-development to-do list. 20130212 09:26:00-!- Artemius [~androirc@139.179.207.102] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 09:48:50-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20130212 09:50:28-!- Artemius [~androirc@139.179.207.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20130212 10:07:11-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-168-48-246.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20130212 10:16:44-!- stikonas [~gentoo@as932.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 10:16:45-!- stikonas [~gentoo@as932.girton.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Changing host] 20130212 10:16:46-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 10:32:54-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: bumbadadabum] 20130212 10:36:43-!- Artemius [~androirc@139.179.207.102] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 10:42:46-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20130212 10:48:25-!- Crendgrim [~crend@port-92-204-20-217.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 10:59:04-!- EdB [~edb@89-93-184-215.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 11:01:42-!- Artemius [~androirc@139.179.207.102] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130212 11:12:40< zookeeper> meh. someone come up with a name for linaera's tower. 20130212 11:13:06-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@92.224.182.198] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 11:14:14< vultraz> it's not just called Linaera'a Tower? 20130212 11:14:29< zookeeper> it's not 20130212 11:15:36-!- irker532 [~irker@ai0867.net] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20130212 11:15:56< vultraz> is Linaera the mage from AOI? 20130212 11:16:04< zookeeper> yes 20130212 11:19:54< vultraz> Aeranorth? 20130212 11:20:23< ettin> esr: pong 20130212 11:22:07< zookeeper> i was thinking more of generic names rather than proper nouns. you know, "tower of the sun" etc 20130212 11:25:08< vultraz> Ice Tower? 20130212 11:28:53< vultraz> still think Aeranorth would make more sense 20130212 11:30:33-!- boucman_work1 [~rosen@193.56.60.160] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 11:31:12< zookeeper> hrhm 20130212 11:32:35-!- grzywacz [~grzywacz@wesnoth/developer/grzywacz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130212 11:37:11-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: boucman_work 20130212 11:40:08-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20130212 11:47:03< zookeeper> spellkeep? :x 20130212 11:51:08< vultraz> eh, that sounds good too :S 20130212 12:08:07-!- DCW [~Thunderbi@80.0.6.140] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 12:14:02< zookeeper> i guess i'll go with that, i can't think of very many good alternatives 20130212 12:37:18-!- loonybot [~loonybot@91.78.91.3] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 12:37:18-!- loonybot [~loonybot@91.78.91.3] has quit [Changing host] 20130212 12:37:18-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 12:41:14< zookeeper> phew. maps for dw, ei, httt, sotbe, tsg, trow and liberty done. 20130212 12:43:30-!- AndroUser2 [~androirc@176.218.10.97] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 12:48:12-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db2cc15.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 12:49:57-!- boucman_work1 [~rosen@193.56.60.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20130212 12:49:58-!- apoi [~andi@85-126-180-242.volume.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20130212 12:49:58-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20130212 12:50:05-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic 20130212 12:50:20-!- boucman_work [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 12:50:29-!- apoi [~andi@85-126-180-242.volume.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 12:52:31-!- DCW [~Thunderbi@80.0.6.140] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130212 13:03:37-!- Arnesh [arnesh.gho@122.179.143.106] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 13:06:34-!- AndroUser2 [~androirc@176.218.10.97] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130212 13:07:09-!- AndroUser2 [~androirc@eelab320.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 13:08:08-!- AndroUser2 is now known as Artemius 20130212 13:08:09-!- Artemius [~androirc@eelab320.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr] has quit [Client Quit] 20130212 13:09:15-!- Artemius [~androirc@eelab320.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 13:10:16< Artemius> Hi all, will Wesnoth apply for GSoC 2013? 20130212 13:16:53-!- Elvish_Pillager [~eli@dhip-029.rrw.residences.colby.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 13:27:10-!- vultraz_laptop [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 13:29:58-!- QKO [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 13:31:53-!- QKO_ [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20130212 13:42:26< Samual> Artemius: they always do, don't they? 20130212 13:43:43< Artemius> I just know that they applied last year 20130212 13:52:02-!- horon [~horon@nttkyo320074.tkyo.nt.ngn2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 13:55:27-!- jamit [~jamit@wesnoth/developer/jamit] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 14:08:23< Artemius> SonIs there anyone who will apply for GSoC 2013 here? 20130212 14:09:11-!- Elvish_Hunter [029df016@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.157.240.22] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 14:16:55-!- QKO_ [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 14:19:34-!- QKO [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20130212 14:28:01-!- Artemius [~androirc@eelab320.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20130212 14:36:13-!- EdB [~edb@89-93-184-215.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20130212 14:40:06-!- Elvish_Hunter [029df016@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.157.240.22] has quit [Quit: Ciao!] 20130212 15:04:55-!- QKO [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 15:05:18-!- horon [~horon@nttkyo320074.tkyo.nt.ngn2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130212 15:05:46-!- horon [~horon@nttkyo320074.tkyo.nt.ngn2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 15:05:49-!- QKO_ [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20130212 15:10:46-!- mattsc [~mattsc@207.230.251.234] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 15:22:25-!- horon [~horon@nttkyo320074.tkyo.nt.ngn2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 20130212 15:51:01-!- QKO_ [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 15:52:31-!- QKO [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20130212 15:58:50-!- artisticdude [~artisticd@246.sub-70-192-197.myvzw.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 16:12:06-!- mattsc [~mattsc@207.230.251.234] has quit [Quit: I'm asleep] 20130212 16:18:57-!- Arnesh [arnesh.gho@122.179.143.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20130212 16:26:58-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-168-48-246.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 16:31:00< esr> Ivanovic: ping? 20130212 16:31:11-!- mattsc [~mattsc@fw.hia.nrc.ca] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 16:32:50< esr> *Everybody*: If you have a non-Gna email address you want used in your git commit attributions, tell me what it should be. 20130212 16:36:20-!- cjhopman_ [cjhopman@nat/google/x-xgpagstdlfjzyeqi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130212 16:36:50-!- cjhopman_ [cjhopman@nat/google/x-rwckorpjiuhfkzsr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 16:37:22-!- QKO [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 16:39:15-!- QKO_ [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20130212 16:39:46< happygrue> done, thanks esr. 20130212 16:40:48-!- cjhopman_ [cjhopman@nat/google/x-rwckorpjiuhfkzsr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130212 16:45:26-!- Arnesh [~arnesh.gh@122.169.1.6] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 16:53:16-!- cjhopman_ [cjhopman@nat/google/x-cukvtboqtkffavus] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 16:57:15-!- cjhopman_ [cjhopman@nat/google/x-cukvtboqtkffavus] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130212 17:20:35-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-168-48-246.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20130212 17:23:41-!- QKO_ [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 17:25:39-!- QKO [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20130212 17:43:21-!- lobby [~wesnoth@wesnoth/bot/lobby] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 17:43:21-!- Topic for #wesnoth-dev: 166 bugs, 333 feature requests, 17 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20130212 17:43:21-!- Topic set by wesbot [~wesbot@wesnoth/bot/wesbot] [Mon Feb 11 22:05:34 2013] 20130212 17:43:21[Users #wesnoth-dev] 20130212 17:43:21[ AI0867 ] [ Crendgrim ] [ fabi ] [ loonybot ] [ shadowm ] [ wesbot ] 20130212 17:43:21[ Akihara ] [ crimson_penguin] [ happygrue] [ loonycyborg] [ shikadibot ] [ yann ] 20130212 17:43:21[ apoi ] [ ejls ] [ Ingmar ] [ LordNasty ] [ Smar ] [ zookeeper] 20130212 17:43:21[ Appleman1234 ] [ elias ] [ isaac ] [ mattsc ] [ Soliton ] [ zormit_ ] 20130212 17:43:21[ Arnesh ] [ Elvish_Pillager] [ Ivanovic ] [ melinath ] [ timotei ] [ {V} ] 20130212 17:43:21[ artisticdude ] [ enchilado ] [ iwaim ] [ mjs-de ] [ ToBeFree ] 20130212 17:43:21[ balrog ] [ Espreon ] [ jamit ] [ molgrum ] [ Upth ] 20130212 17:43:21[ boucman_work ] [ esr ] [ janebot ] [ QKO_ ] [ Upthorn ] 20130212 17:43:21[ ChrisOelmueller] [ ettin ] [ knotwork ] [ Rhonda ] [ vultraz ] 20130212 17:43:21[ cjhopman ] [ exciton ] [ lobby ] [ Samual ] [ vultraz_laptop] 20130212 17:43:21-!- Irssi: #wesnoth-dev: Total of 55 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 55 normal] 20130212 17:43:34-!- Channel #wesnoth-dev created Tue Jan 27 06:28:41 2009 20130212 17:46:17-!- Irssi: Join to #wesnoth-dev was synced in 186 secs 20130212 17:52:06-!- Arnesh [~arnesh.gh@122.169.1.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20130212 17:56:14-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 18:11:53-!- QKO [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 18:13:53-!- QKO_ [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20130212 18:14:34-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 18:19:34-!- Crendgrim [~crend@port-92-204-20-217.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20130212 18:22:34< zookeeper> i wonder if i'm the only one who chose not to unnecessarily reply _also_ to dev-talk 20130212 18:24:11-!- Crendgrim [~crend@port-92-204-20-217.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 18:26:10< timotei> zookeeper: I asked that myself too. Probably most people either 1) don't care, 2) or don't know the difference of reply/reply all or 3) the problem lies that the default 'reply-to' address is the ML :( 20130212 18:26:25< timotei> Maybe esr should have specified: 'Reply to _me only_' or something like that. 20130212 18:28:07< vultraz> oh, so that's the reason I'm getting everyone's name and email? :p 20130212 18:30:23< timotei> Almost everyone's. 20130212 18:31:23-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20130212 18:31:27-!- Arnesh [arnesh.gho@122.169.1.6] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 18:31:52-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 18:32:03< vultraz> yeah, I just did Reply as well... :P 20130212 18:32:05< jamit> timotei: Not #2, possibly #3. Both esr and the mailing list were listed as "reply-to" so I had to manually remove the mailing list from the "to:" list after hitting "reply" (not "replay all"). 20130212 18:36:23-!- csarmi [~csarmi@188-143-28-205.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 18:37:28-!- _8680_ [~quassel@ip68-225-249-82.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 18:37:56-!- Arnesh [arnesh.gho@122.169.1.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20130212 18:52:36-!- boucman_work [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20130212 18:53:37-!- Artemius [~androirc@176.218.148.103] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 18:55:19< Artemius> Is there any one who will apply for GSoC 2013? 20130212 18:56:07-!- Ayne [~Ayne@wesnoth/developer/ayne] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 18:56:11-!- fabi [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20130212 18:58:36-!- stikonas [~gentoo@as932.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 18:58:36-!- stikonas [~gentoo@as932.girton.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Changing host] 20130212 18:58:36-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 19:03:13-!- artisticdude [~artisticd@246.sub-70-192-197.myvzw.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20130212 19:05:41-!- QKO [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20130212 19:07:24< timotei> Artemius: I don't think so :) 20130212 19:07:43< timotei> Artemius: Or they are just idle. Please note that the orgs haven't been announced yet. 20130212 19:07:52-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.114.158.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 19:10:00-!- QKO [~reaVer@83.98.249.142] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 19:10:31< Artemius> timotei: looking the past, I assumed that wesnoth will apply again. So I wanted to start project proposal earlier 20130212 19:32:56-!- Artemius [~androirc@176.218.148.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130212 19:33:19-!- Artemius [~androirc@176.218.148.103] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 19:34:13< jamit> Artemius: According to the official timeline, the 2013 program was announced yesterday, and groups cannot begin to submit applications to be mentoring organizations for another 5 weeks. So it should not be surprising if no one has any information yet. 20130212 19:35:27< Soliton> you're free to start working on a proposal anyway, of course, knowing that wesnoth might not make it. 20130212 19:35:28-!- Artemius [~androirc@176.218.148.103] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130212 19:57:20-!- QKO_ [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 19:57:48-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db2cc15.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Changing host] 20130212 19:57:48-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 19:58:21< Ivanovic> esr: crazy-ivanovic@gmx.net 20130212 19:58:26< Ivanovic> esr: what else can i do for you? 20130212 19:58:52< bumbadadabum> mailto:crazy-ivanovic@gmx.net 20130212 19:58:54< bumbadadabum> lol 20130212 19:59:15-!- QKO [~reaVer@83.98.249.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20130212 19:59:45< Ivanovic> shadowm: what are your blockers for another 1.10.x release? 20130212 20:00:01< Ivanovic> shadowm: that is Espreon specifically asked for another stable release... 20130212 20:18:40-!- lobby [~wesnoth@wesnoth/bot/lobby] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 20:18:40-!- Topic for #wesnoth-dev: 166 bugs, 333 feature requests, 17 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20130212 20:18:40-!- Topic set by wesbot [~wesbot@wesnoth/bot/wesbot] [Mon Feb 11 22:05:34 2013] 20130212 20:18:40[Users #wesnoth-dev] 20130212 20:18:40[ [Relic] ] [ cjhopman ] [ ettin ] [ knotwork ] [ Rhonda ] [ Upthorn ] 20130212 20:18:40[ _8680_ ] [ Crendgrim ] [ exciton ] [ lobby ] [ Samual ] [ vultraz ] 20130212 20:18:40[ AI0867 ] [ crimson_penguin] [ Gallaecio] [ loonycyborg] [ shadowm ] [ vultraz_laptop] 20130212 20:18:40[ Akihara ] [ csarmi ] [ happygrue] [ LordNasty ] [ shikadibot] [ wesbot ] 20130212 20:18:40[ apoi ] [ ejls ] [ Ingmar ] [ mattsc ] [ Smar ] [ yann ] 20130212 20:18:40[ Appleman1234 ] [ elias ] [ isaac ] [ melinath ] [ Soliton ] [ zookeeper ] 20130212 20:18:40[ Ayne ] [ Elvish_Pillager] [ Ivanovic ] [ mjs-de ] [ stikonas ] [ zormit_ ] 20130212 20:18:40[ balrog ] [ enchilado ] [ iwaim ] [ molgrum ] [ timotei ] [ {V} ] 20130212 20:18:40[ bumbadadabum ] [ Espreon ] [ jamit ] [ noy ] [ ToBeFree ] 20130212 20:18:40[ ChrisOelmueller] [ esr ] [ janebot ] [ QKO_ ] [ Upth ] 20130212 20:18:40-!- Irssi: #wesnoth-dev: Total of 58 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 58 normal] 20130212 20:18:53-!- Ayne_ [~Ayne@212.255.16.137] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 20:20:30-!- Channel #wesnoth-dev created Tue Jan 27 06:28:41 2009 20130212 20:22:34-!- Irssi: Join to #wesnoth-dev was synced in 243 secs 20130212 20:24:58-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Ayne 20130212 20:33:27-!- Ayne_ [~Ayne@212.255.16.137] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20130212 20:43:09-!- cjhopman_ [cjhopman@nat/google/x-byzgjxpxusjxlqhv] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 20:49:21-!- QKO [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 20:50:39-!- QKO_ [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20130212 21:27:17-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.114.158.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130212 21:37:24-!- QKO [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20130212 21:38:28-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 21:40:08-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20130212 21:41:22-!- QKO [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 21:44:32-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@92.224.182.198] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130212 21:47:48-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 21:53:54-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Quit: And away we go] 20130212 21:58:30-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 21:59:52< shadowm> Ivanovic: https://gna.org/bugs/?20385 20130212 22:00:01< shadowm> I thought I had a second bug, but it turns out I already fixed it. 20130212 22:00:47< shadowm> I haven't heard back from Upth regarding #20385 after he started working on trying to build Wesnoth on Windows again. 20130212 22:02:45< Ivanovic> shadowm: is Upthorn active enough that he will likely fix it before say april? 20130212 22:02:53< shadowm> Read my line again. 20130212 22:03:18< Ivanovic> hence my question if it is *realistic* to wait for this bug being fixed before getting a new one out 20130212 22:03:37< Ivanovic> or if someone else has to tackle it if it is really this important and Upthorn / Upth is not around 20130212 22:04:14< shadowm> Please point me to someone else who knows that ball of code and I'll give you chocolate in return. 20130212 22:04:24 * Ivanovic points at Crab_ 20130212 22:04:36< shadowm> What has Crab_ to do with the persistent variables implementation? 20130212 22:05:08-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20130212 22:05:16< shadowm> Also, I thought Crab_ wasn't very active nowadays either. 20130212 22:06:35< shadowm> Anyway, if you feel like ignoring bugs marked as severity 5 (Blocker) or 6 (Security) in the tracker as usual, it's your problem, not mine. 20130212 22:13:18-!- Crendgrim_ [~crend@port-92-204-109-145.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 22:14:09< Upth> I was able to get wesnoth compiling on windows, but I have been unable to track down the cause of that bug 20130212 22:14:45< Upth> it seems that for some reason child_or_add() is failing on a just-created WML node 20130212 22:15:03< Upth> but I was unable to determine why 20130212 22:17:24-!- Crendgrim [~crend@port-92-204-20-217.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20130212 22:18:19-!- Artemius [~androirc@139.179.207.253] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 22:23:09-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 22:23:43-!- Appleman1234 [~Appleman1@202.229.112.161] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20130212 22:24:06< shadowm> That needs to be fixed at some point in 1.10.x and 1.11.x anyway, especially 1.11.x. 20130212 22:24:37< shadowm> Otherwise the page in the wiki needs to be updated to point out that the heavily-advertised feature in question (subnamespaces) can cause memory corruption. 20130212 22:25:43< shadowm> Ivanovic: Incidentally, have you looked at Gambit's proposal for the forums? 20130212 22:26:04< shadowm> That's kind of your business since you shot down one particular point at one particular time when the name behind the proposal wasn't exactly Gambit. 20130212 22:26:44< shadowm> I'm also locking your FOSDEM 2013 topic in Users' and unstickifying it. 20130212 22:28:44-!- QKO_ [~reaVer@83.98.249.142] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 22:29:38-!- QKO [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20130212 22:30:04-!- DCW [~Thunderbi@cpc3-finc11-0-0-cust651.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 22:32:59< Upth> oh, I almost didn't see that your last three lines were addressed to Ivanovic 20130212 22:33:07< Upth> got very confused for a second 20130212 22:33:29< shadowm> upth: The two lines preceding them were for you, though. :) 20130212 22:35:32-!- Crendgrim_ [~crend@port-92-204-109-145.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20130212 22:35:40-!- Crendgrim_ [~crend@port-92-204-116-58.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 22:36:36-!- Crendgrim_ [~crend@port-92-204-116-58.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Client Quit] 20130212 22:38:33-!- Artemius [~androirc@139.179.207.253] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130212 22:50:25-!- DCW [~Thunderbi@cpc3-finc11-0-0-cust651.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130212 22:52:11-!- zaibotrenktas [~zaibotren@cpc5-sgyl29-2-0-cust174.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 22:54:25-!- DCW [~Thunderbi@cpc3-finc11-0-0-cust651.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 23:06:59< AI0867> wesbot: bug #20385? 20130212 23:07:09< AI0867> wesbot: bug #20385 20130212 23:07:10< wesbot> Bug #20385 Assigned to: Jody Northup Status: None Priority: 5 - Normal 20130212 23:07:13< wesbot> Summary: Using subnamespaces with [set_global_variable] causes invalid memory access 20130212 23:07:16< wesbot> Original submission: Using subnamespaces like "Namespace.Subnamespace" with th 20130212 23:07:19< wesbot> e [set_global_variable] WML action ( http://wiki.wesnoth.org/PersistenceWML ) ca 20130212 23:07:22< wesbot> URL: https://gna.org/bugs/?20385 20130212 23:07:25< wesbot> Attached file (1st): https://gna.org/bugs/download.php?file_id=16870 20130212 23:15:06-!- QKO [~reaVer@banzai.speedxs.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 23:16:45-!- QKO_ [~reaVer@83.98.249.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20130212 23:24:06< AI0867> Upth: I'm testing the name_space struct 20130212 23:24:24< AI0867> and if there's a ^ in there anywhere at all, the parsing fails 20130212 23:25:01-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20130212 23:35:26-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-18-93-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 23:35:26-!- fendrin [~fabi@88-134-18-93-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Changing host] 20130212 23:35:26-!- fendrin [~fabi@wesnoth/developer/fendrin] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130212 23:38:04-!- DCW [~Thunderbi@cpc3-finc11-0-0-cust651.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: DCW] 20130212 23:39:18-!- mattsc [~mattsc@fw.hia.nrc.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20130212 23:48:16-!- shadowm_laptop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev --- Log closed Wed Feb 13 00:00:39 2013