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20130224 02:52:27< shadowm> Wow.
20130224 02:52:34< shadowm> Just... wow. http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=4824
20130224 02:52:48< shadowm> That is still my commit isn't it...
20130224 02:53:01< shadowm> wesbot: log 29314
20130224 02:53:03< wesbot> shadowmaster * r29314 : * Document weapon/second_weapon addition and changes on RC imagepath* function
20130224 02:53:06< wesbot> URL: http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth?view=rev&rev=29314
20130224 02:53:15< shadowm> I guess I should feel honored or something?
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20130224 03:20:34< AI0867> shadowm: that was posted shortly after the mailinglist post
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20130224 09:51:01< mordante> servus
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20130224 14:56:31< zookeeper> HttT bigmap is in \o/
20130224 14:58:06< vultraz> whoot!
20130224 15:00:43< zookeeper> 9 to go -.-
20130224 15:01:03< zookeeper> anyone itching to get to update some journey paths?
20130224 15:07:08< vultraz> journey paths?
20130224 15:09:26< zookeeper> yes?
20130224 15:09:30< zookeeper> you know, dots and crosses
20130224 15:10:38< vultraz> Oh, yeah
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20130224 16:05:34-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 164 bugs, 333 feature requests, 17 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
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20130224 16:29:12< mattsc> Hi, mordante.  I just compile trunk for the first time in a couple weeks and am getting a ''pango_font_map_create_context' was not declared in this scope'' error in line 85 of text.cpp
20130224 16:30:17< mattsc> Is this related to r56325?  This is with XCode on a Mac, btw.
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20130224 16:35:30< mattsc> Oh, I guess it's related to the pango version update...  (haven't had much time to follow what's going on, sorry)  Now how do I check what version of pango I have ...
20130224 16:37:23< mattsc> Ugh, I don't have time for this right now.  bbl.
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20130224 16:39:28< mordante> mattsc, probably is, what version of pango do you use? Its version dependency has been bumped.
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20130224 16:42:29< mattsc> mordante: thanks, I'll check later.  I need to do other things right now, just thought I do a quick compile while running around...
20130224 16:44:39< mordante> no problem
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20130224 17:38:04< vultraz> zookeeper: is there going to be a new bigmap to replace the titlescreen one?
20130224 17:40:39< zookeeper> vultraz, yeah, probably just the HttT map. i haven't wired it in because the new scaling options in story screens aren't available in the title screen.
20130224 17:41:31< vultraz> Ah
20130224 17:41:38< vultraz> Is that a gui2 thing?
20130224 17:46:58< zookeeper> no
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20130224 18:39:54< lipkab> zookeeper: Why the HttT map isn't scaled? Given the sizes, there'll be very few screens that can display all of it.
20130224 18:41:48< zookeeper> lipkab, because then it'll get scaled unless the resolution is exactly right. but yes, it still needs something to allow it to scale only when it's larger than the window
20130224 18:42:23< zookeeper> i'd like to avoid scaling whenever possible, although frankly i haven't yet checked how the scaling would look like in-game
20130224 18:43:10< shadowm> Last time I checked Wesnoth did a pathetic job at scaling graphics.
20130224 18:43:17< shadowm> That was in 1.10, anyway.
20130224 18:43:26< bumbadadabum> it depends on what
20130224 18:43:42< bumbadadabum> some portraits scale pretty well
20130224 18:44:01< bumbadadabum> but others things...
20130224 18:44:04< shadowm> Really? All portraits in 1.10 seem to gain jagged edges when they get downscaled.
20130224 18:44:08< shadowm> Upscaling works fine for the most part, though.
20130224 18:44:14< bumbadadabum> some work
20130224 18:44:15< bumbadadabum> SOME
20130224 18:44:50< bumbadadabum> I used ~SCALE scaling for all portraits in EoC
20130224 18:45:05< lipkab> shadowm: That was because of a funny function that used different algorithms for up and downscaling.
20130224 18:45:33< shadowm> lipkab: I'm all ears.
20130224 18:46:00< lipkab> I broke that into two a while ago and now you can choose "smooth and blurry" scaling and "jagged and sharp" scaling.
20130224 18:46:06< mordante> esr any reason why FOSSIL ID is not the SVN ID, in your example it is the SVN ID with an off bye one `bug'
20130224 18:46:19< bumbadadabum> lipkab: I'm all ears as well
20130224 18:46:45< shadowm> lipkab: More specifically, I'm all ears if this means portraits in 1.10 can get downscaled correctly.
20130224 18:46:55< lipkab> Ummm...
20130224 18:47:03< shadowm> Because 1.10 seems like a poor quality product on low resolution screens because of that mess.
20130224 18:47:04< lipkab> I didn't backport it.
20130224 18:47:09< shadowm> (That somehow didn't affect 1.8?)
20130224 18:47:21< lipkab> I always forget to backport things.
20130224 18:48:49< shadowm> Although portraits are probably less prone to look bad than the most visible piece of artwork featured in the whole game.
20130224 18:49:09< bumbadadabum> well
20130224 18:49:32< bumbadadabum> if this downscaling is the ~SCALE one
20130224 18:49:38< bumbadadabum> it still looks bad in 1.11
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20130224 18:50:53< shadowm> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21371130/screenshots/wesnoth-1.10-titlescreen-looks-like-crap.png
20130224 18:51:12< shadowm> "The Great Ocean" there is basically illegible.
20130224 18:52:04< bumbadadabum> I play on 1280x718 resolution
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20130224 18:52:07< shadowm> Let me take this opportunity to remind our GUI framework developer that we need a way to blur those panels without them glitching whenever a widget needs tobe repainted.
20130224 18:52:11< bumbadadabum> so I don't have that problem
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20130224 18:52:41< lipkab> shadowm: The two scaling methods (it was originally two, funnily) were merged r47980, two years ago, by silene.
20130224 18:52:42< bumbadadabum> It's the same on 1.11
20130224 18:53:06< lipkab> bumbadadabum: 1.11 or trunk?
20130224 18:53:11< bumbadadabum> 1.11
20130224 18:53:17< bumbadadabum> .1
20130224 18:53:20< lipkab> Then I don't care.
20130224 18:53:26< shadowm> He Who Must Not Be Named strikes again.
20130224 18:53:32< bumbadadabum> ok so it's fixed in trunk
20130224 18:53:43< bumbadadabum> shadowm: Voldemort?
20130224 18:53:49< shadowm> I remember something funny going on between some S dude and some M dude regarding the scaling algorithms.
20130224 18:55:57< bumbadadabum> shadowm: I got one syllable right, amirite?
20130224 18:56:49< shadowm> I'd say only 0.9 syllables.
20130224 18:57:04< bumbadadabum> yeah, technically.
20130224 18:57:17< bumbadadabum> so you meant vultraz?
20130224 18:57:28< shadowm> I said "some S dude and some M dude".
20130224 18:57:36< shadowm> One of them is He Who Must Not Be Named.
20130224 18:57:38< bumbadadabum> I know what you mean
20130224 18:57:40< shadowm> And no, don't name him.
20130224 18:57:55< bumbadadabum> I know
20130224 18:58:08< bumbadadabum> the logs
20130224 18:58:18< bumbadadabum> oh wait
20130224 18:58:21< bumbadadabum> he's here
20130224 18:58:22< shadowm> Actually, you know what, they are both They Who Must Not Be Named in their own ways.
20130224 18:58:42< shadowm> I don't care that He Who Must Not Be Named #2 is here.
20130224 18:59:30< shadowm> Maybe I would care if he would ever fix the GUI2 blurring issue.
20130224 18:59:35< shadowm> But no.
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20130224 19:21:21< lipkab> zookeeper: What's exactly wrong with scaling?
20130224 19:21:40< lipkab> Precisely, what's so wrong that it's worse than losing half of the map?
20130224 19:22:27< zookeeper> nothing. obviously i'm not aiming for anyone losing half of the map
20130224 19:24:03< lipkab> Ok.
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20130224 20:45:15< lipkab> zookeeper: Not sure if it's intentional, but you didn't commit the background for the new maps.
20130224 20:45:33< lipkab> It's sitting in the void right now.
20130224 20:46:13< zookeeper> oops
20130224 20:47:01< zookeeper> fixing...
20130224 20:47:09 * zookeeper converts to jpg first
20130224 20:48:20< vultraz> hehehe
20130224 20:48:41 * zookeeper waits for photoshop to un-freeze
20130224 20:53:07< zookeeper> done
20130224 20:56:26< zookeeper> done right
20130224 20:59:17< lipkab> Looks miraculous :)
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20130224 21:06:27< zookeeper> lipkab, the bg?
20130224 21:07:39< lipkab> No, the whole thing together.
20130224 21:07:56< zookeeper> well, good :P
20130224 21:11:46< zookeeper> tsg map is in now too
20130224 21:12:50< zookeeper> btw, before anyone asks; the maps are png and not jpg because they need the alpha channel.
20130224 21:13:24< shadowm> How much larger are they?
20130224 21:14:19< zookeeper> ~2.7mb each
20130224 21:14:30< zookeeper> could get to about 500kb with jpg
20130224 21:14:51< lipkab> shadowm: Committed the scaling changes to 1.10, too. The titlescreen should look pretty now.
20130224 21:15:03< lipkab> Well, after a full rebuild, that is.
20130224 21:15:11< lipkab> Hee hee.
20130224 21:15:25< shadowm> Not a problem with this core i7 machine.
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20130224 21:17:08< lipkab> I'm starting to feel that a hardware upgrade is in order :/
20130224 21:17:19< shadowm> lipkab: Changelog entry.
20130224 21:17:40< lipkab> OTOH, this machine is still just fine for about everything besides compiling Wesnoth.
20130224 21:17:47< lipkab> shadowm: Oops.
20130224 21:17:50< zookeeper> for some reason jpg would compress these maps really poorly anyway; i need to set the quality really high to prevent easily visible colour changes
20130224 21:20:36< shadowm> Done in three minutes.
20130224 21:21:04< shadowm> Oh yes, the titlescreen looks much better now.
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20130224 21:31:57< vultraz> shadowm: screenshot?
20130224 21:32:09< vultraz> I still can't get a working build...stupid mac
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20130224 21:39:35< vultraz> and a laptop with a celeron m is NOT one for compiling x_x
20130224 21:42:07< shadowm> Before: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21371130/screenshots/wesnoth-1.10-titlescreen-looks-like-crap.png
20130224 21:42:14< shadowm> After: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21371130/screenshots/wesnoth-1.10-titlescreen-no-longer-looks-like-crap.png
20130224 21:42:41< shadowm> Satisfaction guaranteed! Call now and get a 40% discount on all orders!
20130224 21:46:00< vultraz> Does look much better
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20130224 22:44:50< anonymissimus> shadowm: I like your post about typos, muahaha :)
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