--- Log opened Tue Feb 12 00:00:06 2013 20130212 00:03:00-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 00:11:46-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-20-2.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 00:13:59-!- trewe [~trewe@87-196-70-225.net.novis.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20130212 00:18:41-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-20-2.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20130212 00:20:58-!- pydsigner [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/pydsigner] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 00:23:02< pydsigner> Why is the [music] tag allowed in the body of a scenario, but not those tags which I have written? 20130212 00:24:22< _8680_> pydsigner: What tags you have written? Action tags? 20130212 00:25:02< pydsigner> _8680_: These tags fetch/set variables, and set music 20130212 00:25:19< AI0867> well, they're ActionWML 20130212 00:25:28< AI0867> [music] is also static WML 20130212 00:25:39< pydsigner> X_X 20130212 00:25:42< _8680_> Action tags are only allowed in events. 20130212 00:25:49< pydsigner> So you cannot fetch vars? 20130212 00:25:58< AI0867> some tags can be used in either way 20130212 00:26:00< AI0867> like [item] 20130212 00:26:06< _8680_> pydsigner: Not at scenario toplevel. 20130212 00:26:12< AI0867> [side] is static-only 20130212 00:26:29< _8680_> See . 20130212 00:26:29< AI0867> anything you can create with lua is dynamic only 20130212 00:26:35< AI0867> so it must be in an [event] 20130212 00:27:10< pydsigner> Ugh, and there is no event for pre-story 20130212 00:27:21< _8680_> prestart? 20130212 00:27:24< _8680_> preload? 20130212 00:27:35< AI0867> pydsigner: what are you trying to do? 20130212 00:27:36< shadowm> prestart takes place after storyscreens. 20130212 00:27:42< shadowm> NFI about preload. 20130212 00:27:56< pydsigner> preload takes place every time a scenario is loaded 20130212 00:27:59< AI0867> preload happens when the lua system is loaded 20130212 00:28:26< pydsigner> AI0867, I'm trying to use my own playlisting system. 20130212 00:28:41< AI0867> or at least that's what it's for 20130212 00:28:49< AI0867> pydsigner: playlisting system? 20130212 00:29:25< AI0867> as in, a music player, or something else? 20130212 00:33:59< pydsigner> As in, having 20 [music] tags, with a different set for each situation, doesn't appeal to me. 20130212 00:34:23< bumbadadabum> I think someone alreadi did this 20130212 00:34:27< bumbadadabum> with a macro 20130212 00:34:37< bumbadadabum> or multiple macros 20130212 00:34:51< pydsigner> Um yeah, but you know how many macros that takes? 20130212 00:35:00< bumbadadabum> one for each playlist 20130212 00:35:03< pydsigner> Yep 20130212 00:35:17< bumbadadabum> but it's easy wml 20130212 00:35:19< bumbadadabum> and it works 20130212 00:35:26< pydsigner> "[deep]\ 20130212 00:35:31< pydsigner> \ 20130212 00:35:31< pydsigner> heroes_rite.ogg,the_deep_path.ogg\" 20130212 00:35:35< pydsigner> ^ That's a playlist definition for me. 20130212 00:36:01< bumbadadabum> ok so that's how specific it gets 20130212 00:36:37< bumbadadabum> Well I'm off 20130212 00:36:40-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: I go to bed now] 20130212 00:37:37< pydsigner> To use the above, I have a simple line in my scenario -- 20130212 00:37:59< pydsigner> {SET_MUSIC deep now 0 ()} 20130212 00:38:56< pydsigner> Where that selects the "deep" playlist, plays it immediately, and keeps the default 10000ms between tracks. 20130212 00:39:13< AI0867> pydsigner: well, throw [deep] into a prestart event? 20130212 00:39:29< _8680_> You wait 10 seconds between tracks? 20130212 00:39:38< AI0867> or did I misread something here? 20130212 00:39:44< pydsigner> _8680_, the default is 12 seconds 20130212 00:39:53< pydsigner> (in the mainline music macros) 20130212 00:40:34< pydsigner> AI0867, It works there for setting the music in-scenario, but I can't use it to set the story music 20130212 01:04:51< AI0867> nope 20130212 01:05:30< pydsigner> I feel like requesting a prestory event 20130212 01:09:23< AI0867> well, most ActionWML won't run there, so it'll open up a whole new set of things people will complain about 20130212 01:09:49< AI0867> I think there was a plan for making [story] more usable though 20130212 01:10:52< pydsigner> Heeh, I tried that too 20130212 01:17:34-!- mattsc [~mattsc@fw.hia.nrc.ca] has quit [Quit: I'm asleep] 20130212 01:20:05< pydsigner> Couldn't they add another group, of state-modifying non-action WML? 20130212 01:39:55-!- mattsc [~mattsc@d154-20-32-241.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 01:53:08-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130212 02:02:10-!- Alarantalara [~Adium@173.33.158.188] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 02:05:20-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 02:05:47-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has quit [Changing host] 20130212 02:05:47-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 02:21:53-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@76.202.20.2] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 02:22:44< pydsigner> vultraz, you should really rewrite your RPG 20130212 02:23:04< vultraz> pydsigner: in what way? 20130212 02:23:17< vultraz> If it's the dialog, I'm working on that :P 20130212 02:23:21< pydsigner> It looks like you copy-renamed AtS and used that as your base 20130212 02:23:49< pydsigner> As to user-side, it looks odd to have the Banebow stuck into the difficulty chart 20130212 02:24:18< vultraz> well, I did copy a lot of elements for AtS... 20130212 02:24:23< vultraz> (code-wise_ 20130212 02:24:24< vultraz> )* 20130212 02:24:28< vultraz> from* 20130212 02:25:16< vultraz> But I don't think internal code matters that much 20130212 02:25:26< vultraz> pydsigner: what about gameplay? 20130212 02:28:05-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20130212 02:28:12< pydsigner> (Internal code should matter, especially if you want to be able to maintain your code-base) 20130212 02:28:26< vultraz> well, yes, I agree there 20130212 02:28:36< vultraz> I meant I don't think it matters that it looks like AtS's 20130212 02:28:51< pydsigner> As to gameplay, the whole deal with the teleporting mage was kinda odd, since those things don't show up in scenario II 20130212 02:29:08< vultraz> oh *facepalm* 20130212 02:29:17< vultraz> how...did I forget a shop...in scenario 2... 20130212 02:29:28< pydsigner> Also, your heroes should be loyal, it's a real pain to level up the dwarf and watch your gold dissipate 20130212 02:29:29< vultraz> WTF IS WRONG WITH ME 20130212 02:29:44< pydsigner> Lol. The worst problem is that I kept getting save corruption 20130212 02:29:51< vultraz> Hm... 20130212 02:29:55< vultraz> Dunno why... 20130212 02:30:02< pydsigner> Yeah, I don't know either :( 20130212 02:30:32< vultraz> I'm pretty sure I recently made a commit to keep heroes loyal 20130212 02:30:39< pydsigner> OK 20130212 02:31:21< pydsigner> The weirdest thing I saw was a bat that flew all the way across the map in one move !? 20130212 02:33:55< vultraz> which scenario? 20130212 02:34:17< pydsigner> 2 20130212 02:34:43< pydsigner> Another code thing, I'd be curious as to why you have two RPG systems in your codebase 20130212 02:36:43< vultraz> 2? 20130212 02:36:48< vultraz> I thought I had just 1... 20130212 02:38:07< pydsigner> Most of the stuff in rpg_systems isn't used 20130212 02:38:20< pydsigner> You use macros elsewhere instead 20130212 02:40:24< irker532> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r17101 /trunk/After_the_Storm/ (units/faeries.cfg changelog): 20130212 02:40:25< irker532> wesnoth-umc-dev: AtS: increase Elynia's resistance to impact damage from -10% to 0% 20130212 02:41:16< pydsigner> What surprises me is how many people are downloading Dragonworld 20130212 02:47:34< vultraz> pydsigner: well, basic macros are in macros/ rpg-specific stuff are in rpg_systems/ 20130212 02:48:22< pydsigner> Except that the deal with unit classes in the rpg_systems is not used, that in macros is instead. 20130212 02:53:55-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 03:02:50-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130212 03:03:56< vultraz> pydsigner: actually, unit classes are delt with in rpg_systems/character_development/ 20130212 03:05:41< vultraz> or did you mean something else 20130212 03:12:57< irker532> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r17102 /trunk/After_the_Storm/units/faeries/Sylvan_Warden_E3.cfg: 20130212 03:12:57< irker532> wesnoth-umc-dev: AtS: hide the unit ellipse for Elynia's other injured variation too 20130212 03:15:41-!- pydsigner [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/pydsigner] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20130212 03:43:27-!- esr [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/esr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20130212 04:17:45-!- Alarantalara [~Adium@173.33.158.188] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20130212 04:32:30-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 05:08:35-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130212 06:02:24-!- esr [~chatzilla@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 06:03:14-!- esr [~chatzilla@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 20130212 06:03:14-!- esr [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/esr] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 07:12:23-!- mattsc [~mattsc@d154-20-32-241.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20130212 07:14:26-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-168-48-246.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 07:23:57-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@76.202.20.2] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20130212 07:39:43-!- _8680_ [~quassel@68.225.249.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20130212 07:52:55-!- csarmi [csarmi@84-236-77-236.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 20130212 08:00:02-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has quit [] 20130212 08:50:09-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 09:06:13-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 10:07:11-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-168-48-246.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20130212 10:32:54-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: bumbadadabum] 20130212 10:48:25-!- Crendgrim [~crend@port-92-204-20-217.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 11:15:36-!- irker532 [~irker@ai0867.net] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20130212 11:40:08-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20130212 12:37:18-!- loonybot [~loonybot@91.78.91.3] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 12:37:18-!- loonybot [~loonybot@91.78.91.3] has quit [Changing host] 20130212 12:37:18-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 12:37:21-!- mode/#wesnoth-umc-dev [+v loonybot] by ChanServ 20130212 13:27:12-!- vultraz_laptop [~chatzilla@124.109.10.167] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 15:10:46-!- mattsc [~mattsc@207.230.251.234] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 15:37:47-!- irker864 [~irker@ai0867.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130212 15:37:47< irker864> AI-Demos: mattsc master * rc51e061 / lua/grunt-rush-Freelands-S1_engine.lua : Fred hold_zone: set distance from zone rating to change quadratically - 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