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20130316 00:09:45< lipkab> shadowm, Thanks god. So no one will revert it.
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20130316 00:12:21< shadowm> lipkab: ?
20130316 00:14:42< lipkab> shadowm, Just expressing my delight that nobody will undo jamit's work there.
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20130316 00:16:30< shadowm> My opinion does not represent that of other developers (especially nowadays).
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20130316 00:17:01< shadowm> Generally speaking, reverting other people's commits without discussing it with them beforehand is rude.
20130316 00:17:09< shadowm> Again, my opinion.
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20130316 00:24:52< _Coffee> lipk: sorry, I think I confused that bug with the editor paste bug
20130316 00:25:41< _Coffee> which I think shadowm has been referring to all along
20130316 00:26:48< _Coffee> bug is here: https://gna.org/bugs/?20611
20130316 00:27:49< shadowm> No.
20130316 00:27:53< shadowm> I am talking of the inverse hex selection thing.
20130316 00:28:03< _Coffee> well, ok :P
20130316 00:28:18< shadowm> I have absolutely no idea what originated the paste bug, but I wouldn't bet on it being a single commit.
20130316 00:29:31< _Coffee> so fendrin get's all the exciting bugs ;)
20130316 00:30:12< shadowm> I wouldn't call that kind of thing exciting, having been at the receiving end myself before.
20130316 00:30:56< shadowm> (Usually involving multiple other people's changes stacking on top of my own, breaking my code.)
20130316 00:32:53< _Coffee> so is the next wesnoth dev point release scheduled for today?
20130316 00:33:31< _Coffee> or tomorrow depending on your time zone
20130316 00:34:11< lipkab> shadowm, You were not supposed to try to interpret that sentence in a sensible way.
20130316 00:34:22< lipkab> (^Nor this)
20130316 00:34:28< shadowm> _Coffee: Ivanovic's is UTC+01:00 (+DST now I believe).
20130316 00:34:42< shadowm> Mine is UTC-04:00 (+DST because our country is run by a bunch of idiots).
20130316 00:35:05< _Coffee> mine is too, don't worry ;)
20130316 00:35:16< _Coffee> the opposition party is just as bad :D
20130316 00:35:29< shadowm> So since he doesn't use UTC in the interest of not wasting his own precious brain cycles, he means March 16th in terms of UTC+02:00.
20130316 00:36:11< Ivanovic> shadowm: not +DST yet, this is some weeks off here
20130316 00:36:31< shadowm> Okay, the U.S. already got DST so that confused me.
20130316 00:36:52< shadowm> We would normally have left DST ourselves last Sunday, so that's also a factor to add to the confusion.
20130316 00:37:30< shadowm> lipkab: I will abstain from interpreting your statements in a sensible manner from now on then. I guess.
20130316 00:37:34< shadowm> No promises.
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20130316 00:43:07< irker340> wesnoth: Added the Scottish Gaelic BfW logo.
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20130316 00:46:19< irker340> wesnoth: Added the Scottish Gaelic BfW logo.
20130316 00:49:10< irker340> wesnoth: ivanovic * r56505 /branches/1.10/ (38 files in 27 dirs): 
20130316 00:49:10< irker340> wesnoth: updated Chinese (Simplified) and Scottish Gaelic translation
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20130316 02:42:05< irker340> wesnoth: espreon * r56506 /branches/1.10/ (20 files in 13 dirs): 
20130316 02:42:05< irker340> wesnoth: New and updated images for the European Portuguese translation.
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20130316 02:57:49< irker340> wesnoth: Added European Portuguese map overlays.
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20130316 08:58:36< mordante> servus
20130316 09:01:15< mordante> fendrin, any ETA regarding the revert of the click select bug?
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20130316 09:03:07< irker832> wesnoth: zookeeper * r56508 /trunk/ (players_changelog changelog): 
20130316 09:03:07< irker832> wesnoth: Updated changelogs.
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20130316 09:25:44< Ivanovic> hi mordante
20130316 09:26:07< Ivanovic> mordante: no, it is not too late to get started with gsoc stuff, registration only opens next week
20130316 09:26:14< Ivanovic> seems like things will be a lot later this year
20130316 09:27:45< mordante> hi Ivanovic 
20130316 09:28:18< mordante> Ivanovic, I know there is still time to sign up, but we haven't prepared for GSoC yet
20130316 09:28:31< mordante> unless Crab_ already did some preparations
20130316 09:29:15< Ivanovic> we would have three weeks to nail the preps down
20130316 09:29:26< mordante> Ivanovic, what are the plans for 1.11.2, fendrin hasn't reverted the click selection issue yet :-(
20130316 09:29:38< Ivanovic> meaning: polish up the ideas list, find mentors and do some tiny polishing to the org description
20130316 09:29:49< Ivanovic> regarding 1.11.2: waiting for fendrin
20130316 09:30:21< Ivanovic> since i heard from several people that this is an evil blocker i need to wait
20130316 09:33:41< mordante> three weeks is short... how many mentors do we have?
20130316 09:36:22< mordante> ok then let's hope fendrin has time soon, would be nice to move to Git soon
20130316 09:46:52< Ivanovic> depends on what we need to do and how much we can reuse from previous years
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20130316 10:39:52< zookeeper> Ivanovic, are you planning to tag 1.11.2 at the usual time (>6h from now) assuming that fendrin reverts?
20130316 10:53:27< vultraz> On the possibility of sounding like an idiot, I'll ask, why could not someone else revert it?
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20130316 10:56:05< Ivanovic> zookeeper: jepp
20130316 10:56:18< Ivanovic> vultraz: because it does not cleanly revert
20130316 10:56:33< Ivanovic> meaning: this area was changed afterwards requiring some manual fixes
20130316 10:57:30< vultraz> Ah
20130316 11:00:33< zookeeper> Ivanovic, good, then i'll manage to get the new SotBE map in as well
20130316 11:15:56< zookeeper> or rather, i'll have time to test it first :p
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20130316 11:47:00< mordante> I'm off bye
20130316 11:57:02< Ivanovic> fendrin: so any news about the stuff?
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20130316 13:44:19< irker219> wesnoth: ivanovic * r56509 /trunk/ (17 files in 16 dirs): 
20130316 13:44:19< irker219> wesnoth: updated Vietnamese translation
20130316 13:44:20< irker219> wesnoth: ivanovic * r56510 /branches/1.10/ (18 files in 17 dirs): 
20130316 13:44:20< irker219> wesnoth: updated Vietnamese translation
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20130316 16:57:45< fendrin> Ivanovic: I have reverted it, still doing some testing but it looks good.
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20130316 17:04:18< Espreon> Ivanovic: Please give me ten minutes.
20130316 17:04:23< Espreon> ... I dunno what's happening, so... meh.
20130316 17:04:26< Espreon> (Just woke up)
20130316 17:06:11< zookeeper> yeah, ten minutes for me too
20130316 17:07:31< Espreon> Ivanovic: Well, twenty.
20130316 17:07:41< Espreon> ... ... 'cause stuff happened.®
20130316 17:10:22< irker219> wesnoth: espreon * r56511 /branches/1.10/po/ (5 files in 5 dirs): 
20130316 17:10:23< irker219> wesnoth: Updated the European Portuguese translation.
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20130316 17:10:57< Nephro> Hello Crab_ do you have a minute?
20130316 17:11:12< irker219> wesnoth: espreon * r56512 /branches/1.10/po/wesnoth-help/pt.po: 
20130316 17:11:13< irker219> wesnoth: Another European Portuguese update...
20130316 17:12:20< Espreon> And let's hope trewe fixes that map and sends it to me... very soon
20130316 17:12:51< Espreon> 'Cause Iberia.
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20130316 17:27:43< irker219> wesnoth: fendrin * r56513 /trunk/ (src/mouse_events.cpp players_changelog changelog): 
20130316 17:27:43< irker219> wesnoth: Removed the "move unit to selected hex field" feature.
20130316 17:27:44< irker219> wesnoth: This reverts parts of the r55401 commit.
20130316 17:27:57< fendrin> Ivanovic: ^
20130316 17:28:07< Espreon> Uh-oh
20130316 17:28:51< irker219> wesnoth: espreon * r56514 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/images/l10n/pt/legend-of-wesmere-map--overlay.png: 
20130316 17:28:51< irker219> wesnoth: Updated the European Portuguese translation.
20130316 17:29:43< irker219> wesnoth: espreon * r56515 /branches/1.10/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/images/l10n/pt/legend-of-wesmere-map--overlay.png: 
20130316 17:29:44< irker219> wesnoth: Yet another European Portuguese update.
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20130316 17:31:40< Espreon> Eh, screw this, I'll hack together a fix myself
20130316 17:32:46< vultraz> fendrin: wait, is THAT the reason my units keep moving where I don't want them to? Damn, I thought it was my mouse spazzing.
20130316 17:32:59< fendrin> vultraz: hihi
20130316 17:34:49< zookeeper> gotta go for a moment, but i should have the SotBE map in in ~30-60 minutes
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20130316 17:45:41< irker219> wesnoth: espreon * r56516 /branches/1.10/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/images/l10n/pt/legend-of-wesmere-map--overlay.png: 
20130316 17:45:41< irker219> wesnoth: One more European Portuguese update for 1.10.
20130316 17:46:00< vultraz> so many Portuguese updates e_e
20130316 17:46:15< Espreon> For some reason, it was a pain in the ass to get the maps right.
20130316 17:46:17< irker219> wesnoth: espreon * r56517 /trunk/data/campaigns/Legend_of_Wesmere/images/l10n/pt/legend-of-wesmere-map--overlay.png: 
20130316 17:46:18< irker219> wesnoth: One more European Portuguese update for trunk.
20130316 17:46:25< Espreon> I have no idea why.
20130316 17:46:41< Espreon> Trewe and all of Portugal should be very, very, very, very happy now.
20130316 17:47:08 * vultraz claps
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20130316 18:02:58< zookeeper> Espreon, how do you know it was a pain if you don't know why?
20130316 18:03:36< Espreon> Because each time he sent me a new batch, there were still problems.
20130316 18:03:40< Espreon> ... and sometimes even new problems.
20130316 18:03:49< Espreon> And it kept him up all night, pretty much.
20130316 18:03:52< Espreon> So I'd call it a pain.
20130316 18:03:59< zookeeper> oh.
20130316 18:04:47< Espreon> .win 43
20130316 18:04:49< Espreon> Whoops
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20130316 18:05:13< Khaoschemer> Hello.
20130316 18:05:24< zookeeper> oh, it was for the old maps. i take it that he worked on those primarily for 1.10, then.
20130316 18:06:43< Khaoschemer> Does anyone know whether Formula AI is in sime way deprecated? In the practical guide to modify AI... it says about it: "It's a powerful AI framework, easy to use/test and mostly complete, but it is not maintained and updated any more." 
20130316 18:06:49< Khaoschemer> *some way
20130316 18:07:00< Espreon> zookeeper: Yup.
20130316 18:07:01< Khaoschemer> Is that up to date info? 
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20130316 18:25:47< Soliton> Khaoschemer: yes.
20130316 18:28:18< irker219> wesnoth: zookeeper * r56518 /trunk/data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/ (24 files in 4 dirs): 
20130316 18:28:19< irker219> wesnoth: New SotBE bigmap and journey paths.
20130316 18:29:04< zookeeper> ok, i'm all done
20130316 18:29:13< irker219> wesnoth: zookeeper * r56519 /trunk/ (players_changelog changelog): 
20130316 18:29:14< irker219> wesnoth: Updated changelogs.
20130316 18:29:37 * zookeeper committed the map with dorset changed to dorest, will change strings after the release
20130316 18:33:15< zookeeper> ...unless you want me to do it now
20130316 18:33:31< zookeeper> it's just a search-and-replace away, after all, but i think pot-updates were already run
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20130316 18:47:57< zookeeper> Ivanovic, ^ do you prefer a rename before or after the release?
20130316 18:48:33< Khaoschemer> Thanks, Soliton. I'll therefore focuss on learning Lua AI :)
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20130316 18:53:08< zookeeper> Espreon, as you might have noticed, the SotBE map localizations became obsolete just now.
20130316 18:54:51< Espreon> Just a moment.
20130316 18:55:51< irker219> wesnoth: espreon * r56520 /trunk/l10n-track: 
20130316 18:55:52< irker219> wesnoth: Updated l10n-track.
20130316 18:56:01< Espreon> That should do it.
20130316 18:56:13< Espreon> Let's see if it's true.
20130316 18:56:20< Espreon> And so it seems.
20130316 18:57:24< zookeeper> mmkay
20130316 18:57:34< Espreon> Hooray for magicks.
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20130316 19:04:27< irker219> wesnoth: zookeeper * r56521 /trunk/data/core/images/misc/flag-white.png: 
20130316 19:04:27< irker219> wesnoth: Updated the white journey flag with one that can be entirely covered by a red flag.
20130316 19:05:07< zookeeper> ok, now i'm really done... unless i broke something.
20130316 19:07:55< irker219> wesnoth: espreon * r56522 /trunk/po/wesnoth-sotbe/la.po: 
20130316 19:07:56< irker219> wesnoth: Updated the Latin translation.
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20130316 22:23:20< irker219> wesnoth: espreon * r56523 /trunk/ (13 files in 12 dirs): 
20130316 22:23:21< irker219> wesnoth: Updated the Lithuanian translation.
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20130316 22:48:50< stikonas> Espreon: where is that script that finds missing interpolations in .po files?
20130316 22:50:21< Espreon> http://pology.nedohodnik.net/
20130316 22:51:17< Espreon> stikonas: After you get it installed, run "posieve --skip-obsolete check-tp-wesnoth path/to/po(s)"
20130316 22:51:22< stikonas> ah, ok. It seems that there is a gentoo abuild in portage...
20130316 22:51:46< Espreon> Oh really?
20130316 22:51:50< Espreon> I didn't know that.
20130316 22:51:56< Espreon> Excellent.
20130316 22:52:04< stikonas> http://packages.gentoo.org/package/pology
20130316 22:52:08< stikonas> are you on Gentoo?
20130316 22:52:12< Espreon> Well, Sabayon.
20130316 22:52:18< Espreon> But I use Portage too.
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20130316 22:58:53< Ivanovic> zookeeper: for trunk i do a pot-update before the release anyway
20130316 22:58:58< Ivanovic> for branches/1.10: string changes are evil!
20130316 22:59:00< Ivanovic> ;)#
20130316 23:00:28< Espreon> But not an lbundle-check.py run, of course.
20130316 23:00:30< Espreon> Oh no.
20130316 23:00:36< Espreon> We can't be concerned with such things.
20130316 23:00:39< Espreon> Ivanovic: Am I right?
20130316 23:01:19< Ivanovic> that is correct since i have no idea what this python script is about
20130316 23:01:29< Espreon> It updates l10n-track
20130316 23:01:41< Espreon> ... which IS actually used by the game, as I discovered awhile ago.
20130316 23:02:33< Espreon> It's a good thing I ran it after zookeeper replaced the Far North map... otherwise there might have been obsolete overlays being used.
20130316 23:02:36< Espreon> ... heh.
20130316 23:03:53< Ivanovic> that is i will work on getting 1.10.6 out now
20130316 23:04:07< zookeeper> Espreon, nah, the map file and path changed so they wouldn't have been used
20130316 23:04:15< Ivanovic> and, depending on how many cuba libre I drink while doing so I might work on 1.11.2 right afterwards
20130316 23:04:16< Espreon> zookeeper: Ah, I see.
20130316 23:04:41< zookeeper> Ivanovic, ok, i guess i'll do the rename in trunk before the release then
20130316 23:05:11< Ivanovic> fendrin: you got a paste bug in the editor assigned to you
20130316 23:05:23< Ivanovic> seems like pasing is broken, reported by _Coffee
20130316 23:07:52< Espreon> And marking stuff as fuzzy/obsolete does do stuff.
20130316 23:07:56< Espreon> ... I just checked.
20130316 23:08:02< irker219> wesnoth: zookeeper * r56524 /trunk/data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/scenarios/08_Silent_Forest.cfg: 
20130316 23:08:03< irker219> wesnoth: "silent forest" -> "Silent Forest".
20130316 23:08:05< Espreon> *obsolete in l10n-track
20130316 23:08:10< Ivanovic> Espreon: the portuguese panpages you uploaded are broken
20130316 23:08:27< Ivanovic> Unbekannte Abfolge von »<« und »>«. Fehlerhafte Meldung: define o nível de gravidade dos domínios de log. B <all> pode ser usado para
20130316 23:08:28< Espreon> My apologies.
20130316 23:08:29< Ivanovic> combinar com qualquer domínio de log. Níveis disponíveis: \fBerro\fP,\ \fBwarning\fP,\ \fBinfo\fP,\ \fBdebug\fP. Por defeito, o nivel \fBerro\fP é usado do
20130316 23:08:30< Ivanovic> nível \fBinfo\fP para o domínio \fBservidor\fP.
20130316 23:08:38< Ivanovic> will have a look at fixing those...
20130316 23:08:39< Espreon> No entiendo nada.
20130316 23:08:50< stikonas> shouldn't old localization images be deleted then?
20130316 23:08:53< Ivanovic> did you commit those to trunk and branches or only to branches?
20130316 23:09:07< Espreon> Only to 1.10.
20130316 23:09:29< Espreon> Ivanovic: How do you regenerate the manuals and manpages again?
20130316 23:09:49< fendrin> Ivanovic: I will check, thank you :-)
20130316 23:09:57< Espreon> Ivanovic: Actually, I think I may have uploaded stuff to trunk too.
20130316 23:10:16< Ivanovic> make update-po4a-man && make update-po4a-manual
20130316 23:10:24< Espreon> OK, thanks.
20130316 23:10:47< irker219> wesnoth: zookeeper * r56525 /trunk/data/campaigns/Son_Of_The_Black_Eye/ (7 files in 2 dirs): 
20130316 23:10:48< irker219> wesnoth: Renamed Dorset to Dorest.
20130316 23:11:40< Espreon> Ivanovic: Yeah, manpage breakage in trunk too.
20130316 23:12:49< Ivanovic> Espreon: found the error
20130316 23:12:57< Ivanovic> B <all>
20130316 23:12:58< Espreon> The space after <B>?
20130316 23:13:00< Ivanovic> remove the space
20130316 23:13:05< Espreon> Gotcha.
20130316 23:13:39< Espreon> And another...
20130316 23:13:39< Ivanovic> yeah, the manpages are quite flacky and tend to break often (it is not uncommon that i have to replace the letter l by a pipe char...)
20130316 23:13:44< Espreon> I'll deal with it.
20130316 23:13:49< Ivanovic> thanks
20130316 23:13:50< Espreon> Yuck.
20130316 23:13:53< Espreon> No prob.
20130316 23:13:56< Ivanovic> will you fix trunk and branches?
20130316 23:15:21< Espreon> Yes, both.
20130316 23:15:43< Ivanovic> thanks
20130316 23:16:29< irker219> wesnoth: espreon * r56526 /trunk/po/wesnoth-manpages/pt.po: 
20130316 23:16:29< irker219> wesnoth: Fixed fatal errors in the European Portuguese translation of wesnoth-manpages.
20130316 23:17:44< Espreon> Done.
20130316 23:17:50< irker219> wesnoth: espreon * r56527 /branches/1.10/po/wesnoth-manpages/pt.po: 
20130316 23:17:51< irker219> wesnoth: Fixed fatal errors in the European Portuguese translation of wesnoth-manpages.
20130316 23:17:58< Espreon> trewe: ^
20130316 23:18:23< Espreon> Ivanovic: In case you didn't see it: Done
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20130316 23:35:08< irker219> wesnoth: ivanovic * r56528 /branches/1.10/ (1322 files in 35 dirs): 
20130316 23:35:08< irker219> wesnoth: pot-update (preparing for 1.10.6, no new/changed strings)
20130316 23:35:09< irker219> wesnoth: regenerated doc files
20130316 23:35:59-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: releasing 1.10.6, using r56529 | 1.11.2 planned for March 17 | 170 bugs, 334 feature requests, 19 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20130316 23:35:59< irker219> wesnoth: ivanovic * r56529 /branches/1.10/ (src/wesconfig.h players_changelog changelog): 
20130316 23:36:00< irker219> wesnoth: bumped version to 1.10.6
20130316 23:40:32< Ivanovic> fendrin: will you manage to have a look at the pasteing problem in the editor right now?
20130316 23:40:46< Ivanovic> if that is the case i will not work on releasing 1.11.2 right after getting 1.10.6 out
20130316 23:41:13< fendrin> you will *not* work on releasing 1.11.2?
20130316 23:41:33< Ivanovic> my current plan is:
20130316 23:41:36< Ivanovic> 1) get 1.10.6 out
20130316 23:41:41< Ivanovic> 2) get 1.11.2 out
20130316 23:41:59< Ivanovic> the question is if i work on '2' directly after '1' is done or if i sleep a little before
20130316 23:43:56< fendrin> I think it is better to release 1.11.2 in one work flow. The pasting problem is most likely *not* easy to fix.
20130316 23:45:00< Ivanovic> fendrin: okay
20130316 23:46:55< _Coffee> you could always do what Apple does and remove the paste option and claim it is streamlined
20130316 23:47:35< vultraz> haha
20130316 23:49:36< Ivanovic> damn, uploading those releases is a lot easier using 4mbit upstream than just 1mbit...
20130316 23:51:02< irker219> wesnoth: ivanovic * r56530 /tags/1.10.6: 
20130316 23:51:03< irker219> wesnoth: tagged 1.10.6, using r56529
20130316 23:51:33< Ivanovic> loonycyborg, Rhonda: new stable release out, currently uploading the source tarball
20130316 23:51:48< Ivanovic> will directly continue working on the 1.11.2 release
20130316 23:52:03< loonycyborg> kk
20130316 23:52:48-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: 1.10.6 released, announcing "soon" | 1.11.2 planned for March 17 | 170 bugs, 334 feature requests, 19 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20130316 23:54:55< irker219> wesnoth: ivanovic * r56531 /branches/1.10/ (src/wesconfig.h players_changelog changelog): 
20130316 23:54:56< irker219> wesnoth: post release version bump to 1.10.6+svn
20130316 23:57:00< irker219> wesnoth: ivanovic * r56532 /trunk/ (417 files in 42 dirs): 
20130316 23:57:01< irker219> wesnoth: pot-update (preparing for 1.11.2)
20130316 23:57:01< irker219> wesnoth: regenerated doc files
20130316 23:59:51< irker219> wesnoth: ivanovic * r56533 /trunk/ (src/wesconfig.h players_changelog changelog): 
20130316 23:59:52< irker219> wesnoth: bump version to 1.11.2
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