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This sounds like the fix would be easy to screw up from a verbal description. 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Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org 20130321 08:25:56-!- Topic set by wesbot [~wesbot@wesnoth/bot/wesbot] [Mon Mar 18 16:05:35 2013] 20130321 08:25:56[Users #wesnoth-dev] 20130321 08:25:56[ _8680a ] [ ettin_ ] [ loonycyborg ] [ Smar ] 20130321 08:25:56[ AI0867 ] [ exciton ] [ LordNasty ] [ Soundlust ] 20130321 08:25:56[ Anakonda ] [ fendrin_ ] [ melinath ] [ timotei ] 20130321 08:25:56[ ancestral ] [ Gallaecio] [ Nephro ] [ ToBeFree ] 20130321 08:25:56[ apoi ] [ happygrue] [ noy ] [ Upth ] 20130321 08:25:56[ balrog ] [ Ingmar ] [ rei4dan ] [ Upthorn ] 20130321 08:25:56[ Blueblaze ] [ irker800 ] [ Rhonda ] [ vultraz ] 20130321 08:25:56[ cjhopman ] [ isaac ] [ Samual ] [ vultraz_laptop] 20130321 08:25:56[ crimson_penguin] [ Ivanovic ] [ shadowm ] [ wesbot ] 20130321 08:25:56[ ejls ] [ iwaim ] [ shadowm_desktop] [ witness ] 20130321 08:25:56[ enchilado ] [ janebot ] [ shikadibot ] [ yann ] 20130321 08:25:56[ Espreon ] [ knotwork ] [ Sirp ] [ zookeeper ] 20130321 08:25:56[ esr ] [ lobby ] [ skyfaller_ ] [ {V} ] 20130321 08:25:56-!- Irssi: #wesnoth-dev: Total of 52 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 52 normal] 20130321 08:26:03-!- Channel #wesnoth-dev created Tue Jan 27 06:28:41 2009 20130321 08:26:14-!- Soliton [~Soliton@wesnoth/developer/soliton] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 08:26:58-!- Irssi: Join to #wesnoth-dev was synced in 70 secs 20130321 08:42:09-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-168-48-55.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20130321 08:45:03-!- _Coffee [~david@ppp118-210-51-209.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 08:49:14-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 08:50:48-!- boucman_work [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 08:55:18< _Coffee> hi boucman_work, bumbadadabum 20130321 08:55:28< bumbadadabum> Hi _Coffee 20130321 08:55:32< boucman_work> hey 20130321 08:55:43< _Coffee> just looking at the sounds for the ruffian/thug/highwayman/bandit line 20130321 08:55:53< _Coffee> they match the animation frames perfectly 20130321 08:56:06< shadowm> _Coffee: Did you see my message in the logs? 20130321 08:56:14< _Coffee> now the movement offset needs to be tweaked to make it fully perfect :P 20130321 08:56:33< _Coffee> but I suppose that is for one of the artists to do 20130321 08:56:38< _Coffee> shadowm: not yet 20130321 08:57:00< bumbadadabum> _Coffee: Did you look at the warden/arbiter yet? 20130321 08:57:12< _Coffee> bumbadadabum: just come back from work here 20130321 08:58:03< _Coffee> shadowm: er... what log messages? :P 20130321 08:58:15< shadowm> See the topic? 20130321 08:58:19< shadowm> Oh wait. 20130321 08:58:33< shadowm> Right, the logger was down when I wrote that. 20130321 08:58:38< shadowm> 04:18:43 _Coffee: 20130321 04:02:28 error general: Square bracket lengths do not match up: units/orcs/warlord-bow-attack-[1~4,1].png:[75,100,130,65] 20130321 08:58:38< _Coffee> yeah, we introduced 170 new bugs, etc. for 1.11.2 ;) 20130321 08:58:56< shadowm> No. 20130321 09:00:45< _Coffee> hmm 20130321 09:00:54< _Coffee> I thought I looked at all the units 20130321 09:01:16< _Coffee> but I'll run the scenario that puts all the units on the screen again 20130321 09:01:46< _Coffee> sorry for some new bugs, but we are taking 2 steps forward for each step back ;) 20130321 09:02:02< _Coffee> we've now got proper timings for some units that didn't have them before 20130321 09:03:15< _Coffee> you're right 20130321 09:03:21< _Coffee> I stuffed it with the warlord 20130321 09:03:24< _Coffee> somehow 20130321 09:03:40< bumbadadabum> _Coffee: I'm going to look at the orcs 20130321 09:03:43< _Coffee> all the other units should work 20130321 09:03:46< bumbadadabum> see if they're all good 20130321 09:03:52< _Coffee> I ran the PYRA show all units scenario 20130321 09:04:07< _Coffee> it preloads the files to test them all at once 20130321 09:05:46< _Coffee> I suppose I should commit a small patch to fix this? 20130321 09:06:06< bumbadadabum> _Coffee: Commit the drake arbiter with that as well 20130321 09:06:21< _Coffee> yes, the timing is off with the south animations 20130321 09:06:26< bumbadadabum> all anims 20130321 09:06:31< _Coffee> really? 20130321 09:06:34< bumbadadabum> yes 20130321 09:06:55< bumbadadabum> they all strike on the fourth frame 20130321 09:07:07< bumbadadabum> the sound plays on the second frame 20130321 09:07:35< bumbadadabum> http://pastebin.com/fE5WP7xX 20130321 09:07:43< bumbadadabum> _Coffee: ^ try it now 20130321 09:07:49< _Coffee> will do 20130321 09:08:03< _Coffee> but I suppose we should run it past Jetrel also 20130321 09:09:42< bumbadadabum> Who named the crossbowman sprites "xbowman"? 20130321 09:09:51< _Coffee> not me 20130321 09:09:55< _Coffee> I don't know who 20130321 09:10:15< _Coffee> I think many of these unit files haven't been touched in a very long time 20130321 09:10:22< _Coffee> even if the graphics have been updated 20130321 09:11:57< _Coffee> boucman_work: do you know if sound offsets or animation offsets have needed changing before? 20130321 09:12:17< vultraz> bumbadadabum: wtf xbowman? 20130321 09:12:20< _Coffee> or is this unexplored territory? 20130321 09:12:25< bumbadadabum> vultraz: Yes. 20130321 09:13:37< _Coffee> (x)bowman=(cross)bowman :D 20130321 09:13:51< bumbadadabum> IK 20130321 09:13:52< boucman_work> _Coffee: you mean the WML side ? 20130321 09:14:03< _Coffee> boucman_work: yes 20130321 09:14:04< vultraz> hah 20130321 09:14:11< bumbadadabum> But, why wouldn't it be "crossbowman.png" 20130321 09:14:12< vultraz> why not call it +bowman 20130321 09:14:14< _Coffee> boucman_work: they don't looked to be touched in a very long time 20130321 09:14:30< _Coffee> boucman_work: and, whilst they work, they are not perfect 20130321 09:14:39-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@g224183226.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 09:15:14< boucman_work> I don't know... those thing are a bit of a "fire and forget" the animator provides a timing, they are commited and usually left untouched 20130321 09:16:08< boucman_work> I think that if a timing is obviously wrong, you can fix it, jetrel is not very active anymore and I don't know who else to refer you to for timing validation... 20130321 09:17:08-!- Nephro [516e7ce1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.110.124.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20130321 09:19:07< bumbadadabum> Apparently it has always been xbowman.png but I never noticed 20130321 09:19:48< shadowm> 05:11:56 <_Coffee> boucman_work: do you know if sound offsets or animation offsets have needed changing before? 20130321 09:19:56< shadowm> I have dealt with singular cases in the past. 20130321 09:20:18< boucman_work> oh ? 20130321 09:20:29< _Coffee> perhaps, as bumbadadabum suggested, we should start a thread where players can submit bad timings? 20130321 09:20:35< boucman_work> well I guess svn blame is your friend for that sort of problems... 20130321 09:20:45< _Coffee> :) 20130321 09:21:08< _Coffee> don't blame me for everything :P 20130321 09:21:09< shadowm> That's an idea, but I really doubt most players care/have an idea of what the proper timings should be. 20130321 09:21:21< boucman_work> yeah, a timing bug thread in art developement could help, "wesnoth version, unit, direction, action, description" 20130321 09:21:31< shadowm> Art Development is not for players to post. 20130321 09:21:47< bumbadadabum> shadowm: But you're sure to get posts that are actually useful 20130321 09:21:50< boucman_work> hmm, art contribution ? 20130321 09:21:51< shadowm> I mean, players cannot post there unless they are Forum Regulars or Art Contributors or Developers or Forum Moderators. 20130321 09:21:53-!- exciton_ [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 09:22:27< bumbadadabum> shadowm: I believe people do kinda know what timings are off 20130321 09:22:32< bumbadadabum> for example, the naga fighter 20130321 09:22:41< shadowm> bumbadadabum: In this case I don't think it'd be detrimental to restrict people's ability to reply to the topic. 20130321 09:22:45< _Coffee> yes, the attack hits when it is going backwards 20130321 09:22:55< _Coffee> and it's been this way since it was made it seems 20130321 09:22:58< bumbadadabum> everyone knows/knew the timing was off 20130321 09:23:01< bumbadadabum> and the offset is off 20130321 09:23:07< shadowm> bumbadadabum: Okay, I don't know about the Naga Fighter, I was thinking about a more general issue. 20130321 09:23:32< shadowm> One that incidentally caused Jetrel to go ballistic on me when I brought it up. 20130321 09:23:34-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-168-48-55.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 09:23:44< bumbadadabum> shadowm: Which is? 20130321 09:23:55< shadowm> Excessively long attack animations. 20130321 09:24:03< _Coffee> :P 20130321 09:24:05< shadowm> Or more generally, inconsistently excessively long attack animations. 20130321 09:24:16< _Coffee> that is easily fixed with the new syntax 20130321 09:24:24< shadowm> No, it's not a bug. 20130321 09:24:27< _Coffee> you can condense the frames to be more uniform easily 20130321 09:24:34< _Coffee> whereas before you could not 20130321 09:24:39< shadowm> le sign 20130321 09:25:29-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20130321 09:25:42< shadowm> It is the analogue to https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?18950 . 20130321 09:26:31< _Coffee> well, it is real for some lines of units 20130321 09:26:32< shadowm> Those excessively long attack animations are associated to units which have received animation upgrades during the last couple of years. 20130321 09:26:38< _Coffee> like elcish scout line I think 20130321 09:26:43< _Coffee> *elvish scout 20130321 09:26:48< shadowm> Okay, that's news to me. 20130321 09:26:53< _Coffee> rider takes more time to attack than the others, etc. 20130321 09:27:01< _Coffee> there are bigger offenders 20130321 09:27:03< vultraz> Is jet ever gonna finish his update of the elvish faction baseframes? 20130321 09:27:06< _Coffee> but that one came to mind 20130321 09:27:12< shadowm> vultraz: Why don't you go and ask him. 20130321 09:27:15< shadowm> This is not the place for that. 20130321 09:27:19< bumbadadabum> vultraz: It's going to be released after GUI3 20130321 09:27:36< vultraz> bumbadadabum: I thought that was TSL :P 20130321 09:27:48< bumbadadabum> vultraz: TSL will use the new elves 20130321 09:28:01< vultraz> hahah 20130321 09:28:05< shadowm> You two do realize that our in-jokes are lost on this audience? 20130321 09:28:14< _Coffee> oooh, new elves 20130321 09:28:42-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-158-47-208.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20130321 09:28:57< _Coffee> jetrel is a really good artist though 20130321 09:29:01< bumbadadabum> yes 20130321 09:29:03< shadowm> _Coffee: Link if you are curious: http://www.wesnoth.org/jetrel/Wesnoth/elf-archer-comp.png 20130321 09:29:12< shadowm> What's new and what's old there should be obvious. 20130321 09:29:23< shadowm> The thing is that he's been working on this for years at irregular intervals. 20130321 09:29:38< shadowm> His focus right now is on Frogatto, not Wesnoth, so we're screwed. 20130321 09:29:56< bumbadadabum> I have to go now 20130321 09:30:01< bumbadadabum> _Coffee: Good luck with everything 20130321 09:30:12< _Coffee> thanks bumbadadabum 20130321 09:30:12-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: bye] 20130321 09:30:56< shadowm> And no, some of those oversized units are obviously going to be shrunk before landing in production (if ever). 20130321 09:31:17< shadowm> That's just part of his workflow. 20130321 09:31:34< vultraz> the archer line should be immortalized as Lesson in Creeping Biggerism 20130321 09:31:55< _Coffee> how else do you get the detail in :P 20130321 09:31:58< shadowm> vultraz: Are you lagging? 20130321 09:32:20< vultraz> no 20130321 09:32:24< shadowm> It seemed you didn't read what I just said. 20130321 09:32:25< vultraz> I saw what you said 20130321 09:32:35< shadowm> Or didn't process it. 20130321 09:32:40< vultraz> I meant immortalized as it is 20130321 09:32:47< vultraz> as an example of creeping biggerism 20130321 09:32:50< shadowm> Creeping Biggerism is only a thing when it happens in production. 20130321 09:32:56< shadowm> That's a thing of the past. 20130321 09:33:03< shadowm> In mainline, anyway. 20130321 09:33:08< shadowm> Don't look at my art. 20130321 09:33:20< _Coffee> lol 20130321 09:33:27< _Coffee> I recently tried my hand at art 20130321 09:33:28< vultraz> I like your art 20130321 09:33:34< vultraz> shadowm, not _Coffee 20130321 09:33:48< _Coffee> your art is infinitely better than mie :P 20130321 09:34:07< _Coffee> although I am good with colouring :) 20130321 09:34:10< shadowm> And half of it has never been posted in the forums. 20130321 09:34:16< vultraz> shadowm's art is also infinitely better than mine 20130321 09:36:38< irker800> wesnoth: coffee * 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20130321 19:38:59< Ivanovic> is the gmail address still fine? 20130321 19:39:02< loonycyborg> loonycyborg@gmail.com 20130321 19:40:58-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 19:41:17-!- Samual is now known as Foobar123 20130321 19:41:47-!- Foobar123 is now known as Samual 20130321 19:43:14-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-168-48-55.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20130321 19:47:39-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20130321 19:59:32< thunderstruck> Ivanovic: has there been any update on Wesnoth participating at gsoc after that email last week? 20130321 20:00:08-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130321 20:00:22-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 20:02:08-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 20:10:29< _Coffee> bumbadadabum: which units? 20130321 20:11:39< bumbadadabum> _Coffee: Orcish Assassin and Slayer, Merman Warrior, Loyalist Spearman and Fencer 20130321 20:12:02< Ivanovic> thunderstruck: no real news 20130321 20:12:34-!- mordante [~mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 20:12:48< _Coffee> bumbadadabum: sounds good 20130321 20:13:15< _Coffee> bumbadadabum: I put a PM on the forums to Jetrel and ccd you and boucman about getting these changes in 20130321 20:13:19< mordante> servus 20130321 20:13:30< bumbadadabum> _Coffee: I saw it 20130321 20:13:56< _Coffee> bumbadadabum: I suppose we should wait for the reply, but I an hold on to the patch before applying it 20130321 20:14:45< mordante> esr, nice to see we're ready to move to git :-) 20130321 20:15:27< _Coffee> although I am new here I also am happy that you guys are moving the project to git 20130321 20:15:48< _Coffee> makes updating quicker 20130321 20:16:42< mordante> Ivanovic, will fix trunk tonight 20130321 20:17:20< _Coffee> mordante: that's right -- you're the guy we've all been waiting for here ;) 20130321 20:17:52< mordante> _Coffee, yeah right 20130321 20:17:56< _Coffee> out of interest, what is it? 20130321 20:18:07< _Coffee> that is being fixed? 20130321 20:18:51< mordante> trivial the automatic revision numbers don't work when not in a checkout 20130321 20:19:18< mordante> the quick fix is trivial, I might find a better fix later 20130321 20:20:17< _Coffee> oh, ok -- I suppose that is important for a large project like wesnoth 20130321 20:21:37< mordante> personally I don't deem it too important, normally Wesnoth shows its version number 20130321 20:21:59< mordante> so it's only useful if you use a checkout 20130321 20:22:51-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-168-48-55.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 20:25:57< esr> mordante: The amount of work involved has been significant, but most of it's done. 20130321 20:26:21< esr> Ivanovic: Still there? 20130321 20:26:31< Ivanovic> yeah, still here 20130321 20:26:42 * boucman holds his breath for red and blue :) 20130321 20:27:02< Ivanovic> boucman: better not to 20130321 20:27:24< Ivanovic> i don't think i'll have the time to get the release done this evening (planned to relax with a beer and a trash movie) 20130321 20:27:24< boucman> you won't give us a date ? 20130321 20:27:38< boucman> oh, ok 20130321 20:27:47< _Coffee> how about 1st Arpil :D 20130321 20:27:51< Ivanovic> and since i won't get it done this evening i most likely will not get it done before next week friday (public holiday in germany) 20130321 20:27:51< esr> Would you please fix up the ReleaingWesnoth page? It's badly out of date, with a lot of autoconf assumptions still in it. 20130321 20:28:13< Ivanovic> esr: uhm, you know that i tend to just not read this page? 20130321 20:28:16< esr> ReleasingWesnoth, I mean. 20130321 20:28:20< Ivanovic> i was not even aware of it existing 20130321 20:28:22< Ivanovic> full link? 20130321 20:28:30< esr> Didn't you write it? 20130321 20:28:50< esr> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/ReleasingWesnoth 20130321 20:31:01< esr> Several of the modifications on it are yours. 20130321 20:31:14< Ivanovic> looking at the history: nope, was not me writing the page initially 20130321 20:31:21< Ivanovic> any my last edits are from 2008 20130321 20:31:27< Ivanovic> you really think i remember anything from that time? 20130321 20:31:40< esr> Why not? I do. :-) 20130321 20:32:32< esr> OK. Are you willing to fix it or should I deleete it? (I'm getting rid odf as much SVN-specific language in the wiki as I can.) 20130321 20:32:58< esr> I have the SVN-specific pages down to just 28. 20130321 20:33:22< esr> (It was over 150 when I started.) 20130321 20:39:03< mordante> nice cleanup 20130321 20:40:00< Ivanovic> esr: you are right that most commands of the page are outdated 20130321 20:40:06< Ivanovic> but the general concept is still correct 20130321 20:41:26< esr> Ivanovic: Please fix it so that it's not misleading, then. The fact tht nobodyy but you knows the release procedure is a vulnerability to single-point failure. Those are never good. 20130321 20:43:00< esr> mordante: Most instances of "SVN" (e.g. on SoC pages) are now "S­­V­­N" - invisiblt prevents it from throwing a false positive on things that need to be fixed. 20130321 20:43:47< esr> I did something similar, "Subversion" -> "Sub­­version" 20130321 20:44:29< esr> So now I can just search fott those strings and find the 28 pages that will need to be fixed at changeover time. 20130321 20:46:13< mordante> ok 20130321 20:48:25< Ivanovic> esr: i can just give you the current list of (explaination free) commands 20130321 20:48:32< Ivanovic> those should be easy to apply to the page 20130321 20:49:20< esr> Ivanovic: Please do it yourself. I don't want to risk garbling it in transmission, and I'm still fixing *other* things on the wiki. 20130321 20:49:24< Ivanovic> http://pastebin.com/gy7QqNbd 20130321 20:49:55-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20130321 20:50:42-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 20:53:40-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20130321 21:00:02-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130321 21:05:16-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 21:08:24-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 21:13:04-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20130321 21:14:02-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130321 21:14:16-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 21:17:02-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130321 21:19:16-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 21:22:55-!- Ivanovic changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: waiting for mordante before releasing 1.11.2 | 171 bugs, 333 feature requests, 19 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! 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compile on Pandora. 20130321 22:13:26< lipkab> I know perhaps nobody compiles for Pandora except you, but still. 20130321 22:13:45< lipkab> It's an issue and it's known. 20130321 22:22:40-!- Gambit [~gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 22:24:29-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-158-47-208.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 22:29:41-!- trewe [~trewe@87.196.187.154] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 22:30:02-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130321 22:30:17-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 22:33:09< Ivanovic> lipkab: there is a binary and right after tagging there was the fix committed, so not really worth mentioning 20130321 22:35:36-!- ancestral [~ancestral@75-168-48-55.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130321 22:37:09-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-99-158-47-208.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze] 20130321 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