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20130325 02:13:46< shadowm> "/home/shadowm/src/wesnoth/data/core/encyclopedia/geography.cfg", line 152: possible misspelling "Dorest,"
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20130325 02:15:31 * shadowm glares at zookeeper.
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20130325 02:16:53< shadowm> I guess I will have to wait until "Blue day" for adding the spelling exception.
20130325 02:17:28< shadowm> I mean "Red day". Who the hell came up with this designation and why?
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20130325 02:20:47< vultraz> Maybe someone was watching Rythian play Alpha Protocol?
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20130325 02:21:16< vultraz> (his episode codes are red and blue_
20130325 02:21:18< vultraz> )*
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20130325 04:31:14< shadowm> Nope, making my campaign wmlscope-aware is definitely not worth it.
20130325 04:31:20< shadowm> In fact, it might be outright impossible.
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20130325 04:32:06< shadowm> Because of the episode-based conditionals wmlscope just simply assumes that some macros are being redefined across different files and I do not intend to spam useless #undefs just to make wmlscope happy.
20130325 04:32:30< shadowm> But esr isn't even here, so whatever
20130325 04:32:34< shadowm> .
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20130325 04:35:16< shadowm> Too bad that it necessarily does both macro and image checks.
20130325 04:35:22< shadowm> I only want image checks.
20130325 04:35:30< shadowm> For macros I have my own test suite.
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20130325 04:58:10< shadowm> Okay, I managed to get something useful from wmlscope at last:
20130325 04:58:10< shadowm> Resource /home/shadowm/src/wesnoth-umc-dev/git/trunk/After_the_Storm/images/campaign-logo-episode2.jpg is unused
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20130325 04:58:33< shadowm> Except it's NOT unused.
20130325 04:58:41< shadowm> This was a preposterous waste of time.
20130325 05:00:28< shadowm> Hm.
20130325 05:00:39< shadowm> OTOH I detected one actual issue and one unimportant mistake.
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20130325 07:53:27< zookeeper> shadowm, right, i didn't think of that
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20130325 08:01:24< fendrin_> shadowm: Do you remember your rant about the editor brush icons? I think it was about them looking like they could be pressed but they don't behave that way.
20130325 08:07:05< zookeeper> i wonder why the "adult modification" seems anything but adult :p
20130325 08:17:07< vultraz> fendrin_: yeah that's what he was ranting about :S
20130325 08:17:52< fendrin_> vultraz: Ah, good you heard me. I wanted some more images from you. Do you have time?
20130325 08:18:46< vultraz> Yes
20130325 08:19:09< fendrin_> vultraz: I think that I have found away to solve shadowm's issue. But I would need pressed versions of the brush buttons. And highlighted ones for mouse pointer presence.
20130325 08:19:20< fendrin_> s/away/a way
20130325 08:19:41< vultraz> hm...
20130325 08:19:45< vultraz> I think I can do that
20130325 08:19:50< vultraz> I'll get on it
20130325 08:20:23< fendrin_> vultraz: The question is: Are the current ones good enough so it is worth the effort? 
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20130325 08:26:08< vultraz> damn internet 
20130325 08:26:22< vultraz> fendrin_: you were saying?
20130325 08:28:21< fendrin_> vultraz: Nothing important. I just wondered if the current brush images are good enough. Maybe some sort of blessing from an artist on the forum would be a appropriate workflow.
20130325 08:29:24< vultraz> shadowm: would you be happy with the brush icons if I made them have pressed variations?
20130325 08:31:23< shadowm> vultraz: Also if you made them not look obviously downscaled/upscaled/whatever you did to them.
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20130325 09:02:11< vultraz> hm..where did I stick my xcf's for those buttons...
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20130325 18:39:02< esr> *** ANNOUNCEMENT: MAIN PHASE OF CONVERSION BEGINS *** 
20130325 18:39:56< esr> I now have everything synced up locally (yes, it took a day of network traffic) and am preparing the final lift script.
20130325 18:40:17< esr> More news in a couple of hours.
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20130325 19:06:33< esr> Now building the git stream file with final updated lift script.
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20130325 19:19:08< fabi> esr: Can you please put my user at SF into the right group to have write access? It's "fabi_wesnoth".
20130325 19:19:33< esr> fabi: Looking...
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20130325 19:19:59< fabi> esr: Or is it better to register "fendrin" at SF?
20130325 19:20:09< mordante> servus
20130325 19:20:15< fabi> mordante: hi
20130325 19:20:21< mordante> hi fabi 
20130325 19:20:43< esr> Probably better to register fendrin - I can write-enable that.
20130325 19:21:57< mordante> Espreon, I just found the ideal length unit for you, the Potrzebie
20130325 19:22:46< esr> Ah, yes.  Knuth's measure.
20130325 19:23:17< mordante> yup I started to read the book you recommended a while ago, the game papers
20130325 19:23:32< mordante> so I just recalled the unit, but nice to read the entire paper now
20130325 19:23:33< esr> I was just barely old enough to read the original article on that in 1964.
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20130325 19:24:24< mordante> I really love the detail he put in it and in his books
20130325 19:24:28< esr> Had no idea that the author whould become a significant figure in my life 35 years later :-)
20130325 19:24:43< mordante> :-)
20130325 19:25:15< esr> Yes, I get email from Donald Knuth <- This is esr unashamedly bragging
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20130325 19:25:42< esr> :-)
20130325 19:26:20< mordante> you didn't mention he cites you :-P
20130325 19:27:35< esr> *Does* he?  If I knew that I had forgotten.
20130325 19:27:37< fabi> esr: Okay, fendrin wasn't chosen yet.
20130325 19:28:32< esr> fabi: I'll enable you.
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20130325 19:29:25< esr> fendrin: You're in as a developer.
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20130325 19:30:24< mordante> esr, "I like to think of C-INTERCAL as being much in the spirit of the Potrzebie System of Weights of Measure" from an email dated 18416.29075 C.D.
20130325 19:31:00< loonycyborg> esr: I'm already in wesnoth project on sourceforge, not sure whether I have repo commit access though :P
20130325 19:31:09< fendrin> esr: Do I guess right and "git clone svn://fendrin@wesnoth.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/wesnoth/wesnoth" will be the right command?
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20130325 19:32:25< esr> fendrin: That looks right, but I have not created the repo yet.  It's going to be a while - compressing from 9GB to 1.5 GB with git repack takes a *long* time.
20130325 19:32:38< esr> loonycyborg: Checking...
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20130325 19:33:47< esr> loonycyborg: You're in the Developer group. I think that means you get to commit to any project repo.
20130325 19:34:00< loonycyborg> kk
20130325 19:34:24< mordante> esr, could you add me to the developer group as well, I'm using mordante at SF
20130325 19:34:53< fendrin> It wouldn't hurt to put the sourceforge user interface tuned a little now we are back at it.
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20130325 19:35:07< esr> mordante: Done.
20130325 19:35:40< mordante> thanks
20130325 19:36:17< esr> *** ANNOUNCENT: LIFT PROCESSING HAS BEEN COMPLETED.  REPOSITORY  STATE IS NOW BEING EXPORTED TO A STREAM FILE ***
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20130325 21:23:05< esr> **** ANNOUNCEMENT:  REPO BUILD IS COMPLETE.  NEXT STEP IS COMPRESSION ***
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20130325 21:26:00< esr> Object compression begins.  This is going to take a while.  Possibly as long as 18 hours.
20130325 21:26:57< Ivanovic> wow
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20130325 21:31:35< esr> Ivanovic: Yeah, and that's after I doubled the amount of core on my machine and bought a new 1TB disk drive.
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20130325 21:33:09< esr> Ivanovic: Note that the various mirrors and dumps used in the transition take up over 200GB.  I bought a 1TB drive because I *had* to. 
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20130325 21:38:30< mordante> that's indeed quite a while
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20130325 21:50:12< mordante> I'm off night
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20130325 21:53:00< Ivanovic> 200GB is quite evil since this would not fit on my normal ssd main drive
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20130325 22:15:52< Ivanovic> no release announcement today, the mac binary is still missing
20130325 22:16:23< Ivanovic> heading off to bed now, n8
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20130325 22:53:22< esr> Repository packing 15% complete.
20130325 22:57:57< shadowm> sr: Have I been added to the project yet? I am shikadilord on SF.net.
20130325 22:59:58< shadowm> esr
20130325 23:00:16< esr> I'll add you.
20130325 23:01:44< esr> shadowm: Done.
20130325 23:09:31< Espreon> esr: And I'm simply "espreon", if you haven't added me.
20130325 23:10:47< esr> Espreon: You're in.
20130325 23:10:51< Espreon> Thanks.
20130325 23:14:15< shadowm> esr: Thanks.
20130325 23:21:40< zookeeper> esr, i'm ln-zookeeper
20130325 23:22:10< zookeeper> i take it that it's not a problem to change later
20130325 23:28:12< Espreon> I really hate useless error messages like "Parse error when parsing help text: 'corrupted original file'", but I suppose it can only be so helpful.
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20130325 23:30:03< esr> zookeeper: You're in.
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20130325 23:49:41< shadowm> esr: Is the Wesnoth project on SF.net using the new platform?
20130325 23:49:57< esr> I believe so.
20130325 23:50:28< shadowm> Can you check?
20130325 23:53:09< esr> How?
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20130325 23:53:46< shadowm> Why are you asking _me_?
20130325 23:54:04< shadowm> You are supposed to know these things better since you chose SF.net as our target int he first place.
20130325 23:54:58< esr> Yes, but I don't know any way to tell Alluras from oAlexandria other than by looking at the web interface.  It looks like our project is under Allura.
20130325 23:55:01< shadowm> Presumably you will see a big banner reading "Upgrade your project" if you go to the Project Admin -> Features ssection.
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20130325 23:55:45< shadowm> I see such a banner both above, and to the right of the Features page for both wesnothrcx and wesnoth-tc.
20130325 23:56:21< esr> No such prompt on Wesnoth.  I think we're already converted - in fact I might have done it and forgotten.
20130325 23:56:22< shadowm> I am reading a lot of stuff I don't like for the wesnoth-umc-dev case.
20130325 23:56:28< esr> ?
20130325 23:56:43< shadowm> "Note that the URLs used to access your code repositories will change, and an email will be sent to all project developers with the new URLs after the upgrade is complete."
20130325 23:56:51< shadowm> "Once you click Upgrade, the upgrade will be scheduled and will begin shortly. Any changes made to your project while the upgrade is in progress may not be reflected in the upgraded project."
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20130325 23:57:58< shadowm> I just tried with wesnoth-tc and the upgrade was completed a few second after it was scheduled but I guess that's because it doesn't have a code repository.
20130325 23:58:30< shadowm> wesnoth-umc-dev is a whole different case I need to coordinate with the current admins as founder admin.
20130325 23:58:52< shadowm> It has a big repository and a sizable group of active committers.
20130325 23:59:26< shadowm> And this is a problem I need to consider now because Espreon linked me to this in the admins channel: http://pastebin.com/864ip0y1
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