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20130314 00:27:37< irker256> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r17573 /trunk/After_the_Storm/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
20130314 00:27:37< irker256> wesnoth-umc-dev: AtS: umcpropfix pass
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20130314 03:08:48< irker256> wesnoth-umc-dev: NX E1S1: reworked map for simpler, cleaner gameplay
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20130314 04:53:58< irker256> wesnoth-umc-dev: AtS: minor grammar fixes from vultraz
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20130314 09:22:15< irker256> wesnoth-umc-dev: AtS E2S0: fade out music before finishing
20130314 09:22:59< irker256> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r17577 /trunk/After_the_Storm/episode2/scenarios/00_Transience.cfg: 
20130314 09:22:59< irker256> wesnoth-umc-dev: AtS E2S0: place shroud everywhere at the end to avoid the hex mouse-over frame from being drawn
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20130314 10:16:25< irker256> wesnoth-umc-dev: shikadilord * r17578 /trunk/After_the_Storm/ (episode2/scenarios/01_By_the_Moonlight.cfg changelog): 
20130314 10:16:25< irker256> wesnoth-umc-dev: AtS E2S1: minor balancing changes
20130314 10:16:26< irker256> wesnoth-umc-dev:  * Sanitized side 3's recruit list to avoid units with duplicate AI usage values
20130314 10:16:26< irker256> wesnoth-umc-dev:  * Reduced side 2's initial gold
20130314 10:16:27< irker256> wesnoth-umc-dev:  * Made side 2's behavior defensive (e.g. mostly useless)
20130314 10:16:27< irker256> wesnoth-umc-dev:  * Tweaked side 3's initial gold
20130314 10:16:28< irker256> wesnoth-umc-dev:  * Added two loyal Ghouls to side 3
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20130314 14:36:24< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: vultraz * r17579 /trunk/NX-RPG/episode1/maps/01_Awakening.map: 
20130314 14:36:24< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: NX E1S1: few more minor map tweaks
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20130314 14:51:19< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: NX: ported fix for walls overlaying gates from AtS
20130314 14:57:34< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: vultraz * r17581 /trunk/NX-RPG/episode1/maps/01_Awakening.map: 
20130314 14:57:35< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: NX E1S1: forgot we need gates covering le exit
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20130314 15:19:10< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: NX E1S1: removed some gates
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20130314 16:02:40< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: NX: added OBJECTIVE_SHOW_IF
20130314 16:07:17< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: vultraz * r17584 /trunk/NX-RPG/episode1/maps/01_Awakening.map: 
20130314 16:07:17< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: NX E1S1: added some impassible overlays to shepherd the player in the correct direction initially
20130314 16:28:31< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: vultraz * r17585 /trunk/NX-RPG/macros/visual_efx.cfg: 
20130314 16:28:32< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: NX: fixed preprocessor error
20130314 16:29:11< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: vultraz * r17586 /trunk/NX-RPG/macros/scenario-utils.cfg: 
20130314 16:29:11< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: NX: gave the locked gate message event an id
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20130314 16:54:57< irker226> AI-Demos: mattsc master * r5b1129a / (_main.cfg lua/grunt-rush-Freelands-S1_engine.lua): _main.cfg: change textdomain name - http://git.io/tgR_RA
20130314 16:54:58< irker226> AI-Demos: mattsc master * rd3b61a6 / (_main.cfg lua/grunt-rush-Freelands-S1_engine.lua): Revert "_main.cfg: change textdomain name" - http://git.io/UQX_Ow
20130314 16:54:59< irker226> AI-Demos: mattsc master * r79a0576 / _main.cfg : _main.cfg: change textdomain name - http://git.io/_YNV-g
20130314 16:56:13< mattsc> trewe: ^  (the commit-revert-commit was because I accidentally also committed changes to another file that are still WIP)
20130314 16:56:20< mattsc> Thanks again
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20130314 17:32:28< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: NX: fixed wrong imagepaths
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20130314 17:52:27< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: NX E1S1: refactored scenario for cleaner, simpler gameplay
20130314 17:55:14< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: vultraz * r17589 /trunk/NX-RPG/changelog: 
20130314 17:55:15< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: NX: updated changelog
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20130314 18:05:27< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: E1S1: id= can be a list
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20130314 18:07:57< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: NX E1S1: fixed some invalid attributes
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20130314 18:15:42< irker226> wesnoth-umc-dev: NX E1S1: renamed scenario to signify it's part 1 of 3
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20130314 22:01:13< mattsc> Hey bumbadadabum.  Did you get your code sorted out?
20130314 22:01:22< bumbadadabum> mattsc: Still not
20130314 22:01:32< bumbadadabum> Haven't really worked on it today
20130314 22:01:56< mattsc> If you want, you could send me your code (the entire scenario file) and I'll have a look at it sometime tonight.
20130314 22:02:48< bumbadadabum> I just need to know what the nil value thing is
20130314 22:03:30< mattsc> Well, what the error message means is that you're trying to access a variable that hasn't been defined (and are trying to do something with it that you can't do with nils)
20130314 22:04:11< mattsc> To be more specific, I'd have to see the exact message plus the code (latest version)
20130314 22:04:48< bumbadadabum> it says: "trying to access retreat_undead() (a nil value)"
20130314 22:04:56< bumbadadabum> or something similar
20130314 22:05:49< mattsc> So that says exactly what I just said.
20130314 22:06:32< mattsc> You're trying to call retreat_undead() which is not defined in the code block from which you are trying to call it
20130314 22:07:07< bumbadadabum> http://pastebin.com/EZyF06CA
20130314 22:12:53< mattsc> Your missing the line:
20130314 22:12:55< mattsc>             version=10710
20130314 22:13:09< bumbadadabum> mattsc: Indeed I am
20130314 22:13:13< mattsc> I do not know why that is necessary, but it is.
20130314 22:13:33< mattsc> I think that the default version of the AI code does not work with the lua engine, or something.
20130314 22:13:46< bumbadadabum> If it works now
20130314 22:14:03< bumbadadabum> I can finally do more fancy stuff
20130314 22:15:04< mattsc> I have a few more observations about your code, if you want to hear them.
20130314 22:15:09< bumbadadabum>  Yes.
20130314 22:15:45< mattsc> First, I believe if you include the lua code in the engine directly like that, you need to reload the scenario each time you change something.
20130314 22:16:10< bumbadadabum> I always do that
20130314 22:16:12< mattsc> By contrast, if you include it in a file (as in prune_cart.cfg), you only need to reload the latest savefile.
20130314 22:16:35< mattsc> If you set up a right-click test scenario, you don't even need to do that.
20130314 22:16:50< mattsc> Right-click to test, change code, right-click again.  No loading at all required.
20130314 22:16:51< bumbadadabum> mattsc: I'll do that once I do more advanced stuff
20130314 22:17:14< bumbadadabum> mattsc: That's a big advantage over WML
20130314 22:17:22< mattsc> Indeed.
20130314 22:18:03< mattsc> The other thing is that there's a bug in Wesnoth that somehow means you cannot define aspects (AI parameters) in the same side definition as a lua or fai engine.
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20130314 22:18:22< mattsc> So all your aggression, caution etc. values will not be set.
20130314 22:18:37< bumbadadabum> mattsc: The side won't recruit anything
20130314 22:19:19< bumbadadabum> Is it because of the other params?
20130314 22:19:22< mattsc> Not all the parameters you set only affect recruiting.  And it was meant as a general comment anyway.
20130314 22:20:10< mattsc> I don't know what causes it, but if you have a lua engine defined for the side, none of the aspects will be set.
20130314 22:20:42< bumbadadabum> so I'll have to make aspects for aggression and stuff, right?
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20130314 22:21:09< mattsc> aggression etc. _are_ aspects (that's just what the AI parameters are called, for some reason)
20130314 22:21:29< bumbadadabum> but use them in an [aspect]
20130314 22:21:31< mattsc> If you still want to set them, you need to do this:  (looking for link ...)
20130314 22:21:45< mattsc> Right, I think that's it, but let me look it up to be certain.
20130314 22:26:00< mattsc> bumbadadabum: Hmm, I can't find it right now (I know I documented it somewhere), but I think you need to add the parameters with [modify_ai] or [modify_side] in that case.
20130314 22:26:29< mattsc> Using the full [aspect] tag in the [ai] tag might also work, but I don't remember.  It's really easy to check whether it works using :inspect though.
20130314 22:26:36< bumbadadabum> mattsc: I'll try
20130314 22:26:48< bumbadadabum> and see if the AI does like to recruit after doing that
20130314 22:27:33< mattsc> Unless you disable the recruitment CA, it will recruit.
20130314 22:27:52< bumbadadabum> it didn't when I tried the scenario
20130314 22:28:49< mattsc> That might be related to the previous error
20130314 22:30:09< mattsc> Anyway, a final comment, I think the { and } don't quite match in your wesnoth.get_units calls
20130314 22:30:50< mattsc> But you should be able to trouble-shoot those yourself now.  :)
20130314 22:31:04< bumbadadabum> it does
20130314 22:31:08< bumbadadabum> I open 4 and close 4
20130314 22:31:35< bumbadadabum> oh, get units
20130314 22:31:36< bumbadadabum> uhh
20130314 22:32:00< bumbadadabum> yeah you're right
20130314 22:32:07< bumbadadabum> mattsc: Thanks for everything
20130314 22:34:49< mattsc> bumbadadabum: no worries, for some reason I seem to believe that stuff like this is fun.  :)
20130314 22:35:31< mattsc> Btw, none of those parameters should affect if the AI recruits, only what it recruits.
20130314 22:35:49< bumbadadabum> I'm going to take a look
20130314 22:36:00< bumbadadabum> maybe it was RCA AI being RCA AI again
20130314 22:43:26< bumbadadabum> mattsc: It seems to skip side 3's turn entirely
20130314 22:46:12< mattsc> do you include the RCA CAs somewhere?
20130314 22:46:34< bumbadadabum> No
20130314 22:46:48< mattsc> Ah, that would be the reason then.
20130314 22:47:08< mattsc> They are only included by default for the C++ engine.
20130314 22:47:25< bumbadadabum> so what would I need to do?
20130314 22:47:43< bumbadadabum> nvm I'll look at your add-on
20130314 22:48:16< bumbadadabum> just include         {ai/aliases/stable_singleplayer.cfg}?
20130314 22:48:30< mattsc> If you look at prune_cart.cfg, you can see it there
20130314 22:48:42< mattsc> Umm, I think that does more than that.  Let me have a quick look.
20130314 22:51:01< mattsc> Yeah, that's the entire [ai] tag, you don't want that.
20130314 22:51:01< mattsc> Just the stage definition from inside it.
20130314 22:51:01< bumbadadabum> Ok
20130314 22:51:01< bumbadadabum> I think I'll macroify it then
20130314 22:51:11< mattsc> If you look at the the very beginning of micro_ais/ais/micro_ai_macros.cfg, it's already done there.
20130314 22:51:30< mattsc> So, yes, I did as well.
20130314 22:51:46< mattsc> bumbadadabum: I have to be off now.  I'll be back in about an hour.
20130314 22:52:01< bumbadadabum> mattsc: I don't think I'll be around then
20130314 22:52:13< bumbadadabum> Thanks again for helping
20130314 22:53:19< mattsc> ok.  just post questions here if you have more.  I'll check out the logs later.
20130314 22:53:25< bumbadadabum> ok
20130314 22:53:27< mattsc> bye for now.
20130314 22:53:31< bumbadadabum> bye
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