--- Log opened Sat Apr 27 00:00:05 2013
20130427 00:04:05-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 00:04:24-!- jetrel2 [~jetrel2@64.208.23.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20130427 00:12:37-!- YoungWolf [~nimitmalh@93.114.44.253] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20130427 00:12:44-!- Iordanis [Iordanis@host214-207.cvd.fit.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 00:16:38-!- vbond [~Adium@29-129-93-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20130427 00:20:57-!- romanmikhailov [b2788fc9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.120.143.201] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 00:21:36-!- YoungWolf [~nimitmalh@93.115.84.198] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 00:22:39-!- YoungWolf [~nimitmalh@93.115.84.198] has left #wesnoth-dev []
20130427 00:22:56-!- Nimit [~nimitmalh@93.115.84.198] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 00:23:11-!- Nimit [~nimitmalh@93.115.84.198] has left #wesnoth-dev []
20130427 00:36:28-!- prkc [~negusnyul@2E6B5202.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20130427 00:39:53-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
20130427 00:39:56-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 00:42:41-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20130427 00:42:49-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@ab577.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 00:42:49-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@ab577.girton.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Changing host]
20130427 00:42:49-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 00:45:18-!- romanmikhailov_ [~RomanMikh@178.120.143.201] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 00:45:24-!- romanmikhailov [b2788fc9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.120.143.201] has quit [Quit: Page closed]
20130427 00:45:48-!- romanmikhailov_ [~RomanMikh@178.120.143.201] has left #wesnoth-dev []
20130427 00:45:54-!- romanmikhailov_ [~RomanMikh@178.120.143.201] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 00:51:44-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
20130427 00:56:15-!- stikonas__ [~gentoo@128.232.240.234] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 00:56:26-!- stikonas_ [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
20130427 00:56:43-!- nephro_ [516e7ce1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.110.124.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20130427 01:04:58-!- LordBob_ [~chatzilla@2a01:e34:ee82:47e0:21e:c2ff:fe01:261f] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 20.0/20130326150557]]
20130427 01:10:05-!- oldtopman [~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 01:17:51-!- romanmikhailov_ [~RomanMikh@178.120.143.201] has left #wesnoth-dev []
20130427 01:20:06-!- mattsc [~mattsc@fw.hia.nrc.ca] has quit [Quit: I'm asleep]
20130427 01:40:00-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-16-62.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 01:51:02-!- mattsc [~mattsc@d154-20-34-165.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 01:53:44< Shofixti> mattsc: Hey again.
20130427 01:54:14-!- jfagan [~James@149.125.164.195] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
20130427 01:56:24< mattsc> Shofixti: hi   (I'm only kind of here)
20130427 02:02:37-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-16-62.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze]
20130427 02:05:33-!- vinipsmaker [~vinipsmak@179.235.172.172] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 02:32:43-!- stikonas__ [~gentoo@128.232.240.234] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20130427 02:36:24-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20130427 02:50:54-!- Iordanis [Iordanis@host214-207.cvd.fit.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
20130427 03:02:03-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20130427 03:15:55-!- Gambit [~gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 04:10:24-!- beetlenaut [~dan@cpe-98-148-96-78.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20130427 04:12:20-!- flix [~flix@178.77.174.193] has left #wesnoth-dev []
20130427 04:15:08< Shofixti> Heyo, I just wrote the start of a project page and questionaire for GSOC, if any of you folks have the time to go through and critique it, I'd be in your debt.
20130427 04:15:11< Shofixti> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/User:Shofixti
20130427 04:17:04-!- EliDupree2 [~eli@dhip-029.rrw.residences.colby.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
20130427 04:18:45-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-16-62.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 04:43:34-!- Iordanis [Iordanis@host214-207.cvd.fit.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 04:44:01-!- Shofixti [~shofixti2@sdbron9882w-047054042179.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.on.FibreOp.ca] has quit [Quit: Shofixti flees the scene]
20130427 04:45:03-!- Ivanovic_ [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db233d0.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 04:47:36-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20130427 04:48:50-!- Ivanovic_ is now known as Ivanovic
20130427 05:15:11-!- ancestral [~ancestral@mobile-198-228-234-174.mycingular.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 05:55:26< Iordanis> What is BLIT
20130427 05:55:31< Iordanis> command in WML stand for
20130427 05:55:35< Iordanis> where can I find its documentation?
20130427 06:00:02< mattsc> http://wiki.wesnoth.org/ImagePathFunctionWML#Blit_Function
20130427 06:02:14< mattsc> Iordanis: ^  (forgot your nick)
20130427 06:02:37< Iordanis> thx
20130427 06:03:07-!- mattsc [~mattsc@d154-20-34-165.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: bye]
20130427 06:08:58-!- ancestral [~ancestral@mobile-198-228-234-174.mycingular.net] has quit [Quit: Smell ya later!]
20130427 06:13:14-!- ancestral [~ancestral@67-6-53-117.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
--- Log opened Sat Apr 27 06:42:50 2013
20130427 06:42:58-!- lobby [~wesnoth@wesnoth/bot/lobby] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 06:42:58-!- Topic for #wesnoth-dev: Git migration to GitHub in progress, please *stop* committing to SF | http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SummerOfCodeIdeas | Will move the repo to github, please read the dev-ml! | 177 bugs, 333 feature requests, 27 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org
20130427 06:42:58-!- Topic set by wesbot [~wesbot@asteria.debian.or.at] [Fri Apr 26 23:05:36 2013]
20130427 06:42:58[Users #wesnoth-dev]
20130427 06:42:58[ _8680_         ] [ elias    ] [ Ivanovic   ] [ shadowm   ] 
20130427 06:42:58[ _Coffee        ] [ enchilado] [ iwaim      ] [ shikadibot] 
20130427 06:42:58[ AI0867         ] [ Espreon  ] [ janebot    ] [ skyfaller ] 
20130427 06:42:58[ Aliekexhi      ] [ ettin    ] [ knotwork   ] [ Smar      ] 
20130427 06:42:58[ Anakonda       ] [ exciton  ] [ lobby      ] [ timotei   ] 
20130427 06:42:58[ ancestral      ] [ fabi_    ] [ loonycyborg] [ ToBeFree  ] 
20130427 06:42:58[ apoi           ] [ freim    ] [ melinath   ] [ Upth      ] 
20130427 06:42:58[ balrog         ] [ Gallaecio] [ molgrum    ] [ Upthorn   ] 
20130427 06:42:58[ bderooms       ] [ Gambit   ] [ Necrosporus] [ viku      ] 
20130427 06:42:58[ Blueblaze      ] [ GrayS    ] [ nurupo     ] [ vultraz   ] 
20130427 06:42:58[ cjhopman__     ] [ happygrue] [ oldtopman  ] [ wesbot    ] 
20130427 06:42:58[ crimson_penguin] [ harsh__  ] [ rei4dan    ] [ yann      ] 
20130427 06:42:58[ DHost          ] [ Ingmar   ] [ Rhonda     ] [ {V}       ] 
20130427 06:42:58[ ejls           ] [ Iordanis ] [ Samual_    ] 
20130427 06:42:58-!- Irssi: #wesnoth-dev: Total of 55 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 55 normal]
20130427 06:43:05-!- Channel #wesnoth-dev created Tue Jan 27 06:28:41 2009
20130427 06:43:17-!- Soliton [~Soliton@wesnoth/developer/soliton] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 06:44:37-!- Irssi: Join to #wesnoth-dev was synced in 106 secs
20130427 07:16:44-!- beetlenaut [~dan@cpe-98-148-96-78.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 07:20:51-!- GrayS [Gray@dhcp0206.vpm.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
20130427 07:40:00-!- ancestral [~ancestral@67-6-53-117.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai]
20130427 07:44:14-!- _Coffee [~david@ppp118-210-78-109.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20130427 07:48:58-!- Gambit [~gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20130427 08:08:08-!- itomsawyer [~tomsawyer@2001:da8:215:845:6aa3:c4ff:fe85:a887] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 08:29:37-!- itomsawyer [~tomsawyer@2001:da8:215:845:6aa3:c4ff:fe85:a887] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20130427 08:31:35-!- itomsawyer [~tomsawyer@2001:da8:215:845:6aa3:c4ff:fe85:a887] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 08:50:56-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 08:55:01-!- Iordanis [Iordanis@host214-207.cvd.fit.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20130427 09:05:59-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@dtmd-4db233d0.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Changing host]
20130427 09:05:59-!- Ivanovic [~ivanovic@wesnoth/developer/ivanovic] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 09:07:36< Ivanovic> wesbot: seen esr
20130427 09:07:36< wesbot> Ivanovic: The person with the nick esr last spoke 8d 9h ago.  2d 15h ago they left with the message: Quit: Hitting the road for a week.
20130427 09:12:58< zookeeper> uh oh.
20130427 09:13:16< Ivanovic> exactly
20130427 09:14:22-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit []
20130427 09:14:39< Ivanovic> AI0867, fabi_, loonycyborg, shadowm, Soliton, zookeeper: so how to proceed now since honestly, another week extra waiting without esr telling us about it just sucks too much
20130427 09:14:48< Ivanovic> does anyone else have the scripts he is running?
20130427 09:15:03< Ivanovic> since honestly, we should be able to just run them on one of our servers on the repo and be done
20130427 09:15:16< Ivanovic> or we should just use the stuff we have from sf.net and work with that
20130427 09:18:02-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 09:19:16< zookeeper> Ivanovic, go back to svn? :>
20130427 09:19:29-!- mordante [~mordante@roadie.xs4all.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 09:19:31-!- mordante [~mordante@roadie.xs4all.nl] has quit [Changing host]
20130427 09:19:31-!- mordante [~mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 09:19:45< Ivanovic> zookeeper: yeah, that would be an option, too
20130427 09:19:45< mordante> servus
20130427 09:19:59< Ivanovic> mordante: please look at the last 5min in the logs
20130427 09:20:07< Ivanovic> and good morning btw
20130427 09:20:27< mordante> hi Ivanovic 
20130427 09:21:07< mordante> Ivanovic, the stuff now at GitHub probably is better than what we have at SF
20130427 09:21:28< mordante> Ivanovic, did you already try to build a release from the GitHub repo?
20130427 09:21:47< Ivanovic> nope, i don't have a checkout from github yet
20130427 09:22:01< Ivanovic> but i don't see anything which should prevent building a release out of it
20130427 09:22:58< mordante> I think the only thing missing on GitHub are the branches, not sure how easy the are to add. Do you know AI0867?
20130427 09:23:58< mordante> I also don't expect issues to build from GitHub, it at least compiles for me
20130427 09:24:47< Ivanovic> okay, sent a mail about this
20130427 09:25:03< Ivanovic> unless there is a different response we will be using that github repo starting sunday evening 8pm german time
20130427 09:29:35-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20130427 09:33:08< mordante> fabi_, I know the groups are still ugly as hell, but waiting with cleaning up until we have a final repo up and running
20130427 09:33:43< mordante> fabi_, once that is committed I will look at replacing the listboxes with a matrix, but that class needs further development
20130427 09:34:07< mordante> fabi_, and this window is a very good test-case for that code
20130427 09:36:56-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 09:37:03< mordante> trademark_ yes there should be a master password for the addon server (the current on also has that)
20130427 09:46:01-!- vbond [~Adium@13-20-93-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 10:07:11< mordante> anonymissimus, when you're around do you have time to assist in debugging http://gna.org/bugs/?16544
20130427 10:19:38-!- vbond [~Adium@13-20-93-178.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20130427 10:26:00-!- LordBob_ [~chatzilla@2a01:e34:ee82:47e0:21e:c2ff:fe01:261f] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 10:26:27< LordBob_> 'lo Fabi_
20130427 10:26:51< LordBob_> And good day everyone
20130427 10:26:57< mordante> hi LordBob_ 
20130427 10:41:17-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.218.224.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20130427 10:44:08-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.218.224.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 11:08:39-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 11:11:26-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 11:24:04-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@g224184240.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 11:29:23-!- PL_kolek [~PL_kolek@dynamic-62-87-129-75.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 11:36:09-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]
20130427 11:39:26-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 11:57:27-!- kratos [0e8bc402@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.196.2] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 11:58:02-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-16-62.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Blueblaze]
20130427 11:59:59-!- kratos [0e8bc402@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.196.2] has quit [Client Quit]
20130427 12:13:42-!- Aliekexhi [~alex@177.146.116.78.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: quittage]
20130427 12:20:02-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20130427 12:31:42-!- _Coffee [~david@ppp118-210-78-109.lns20.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 12:39:39< Soliton> Ivanovic: sounds good.
20130427 12:54:07-!- loonybot [~loonybot@wesnoth/bot/loonybot] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 13:03:48-!- DCW [~Thunderbi@cpc1-finc14-2-0-cust12.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 13:07:56< fabi_> LordBob_: hi
20130427 13:08:08< LordBob_> Hello there :)
20130427 13:08:34< LordBob_> Any new screenshots yet ? 
20130427 13:08:42< fabi_> mordante: huhu
20130427 13:08:52< mordante> hi fabi_ 
20130427 13:09:16< fabi_> mordante: Yes, the ugly comment was not meant as a critique, my coding starts ugly and gets polished only in the late phases as well.
20130427 13:09:35< fabi_> mordante: The dialog is more or less exactly what we need.
20130427 13:12:12< mordante> fabi_, no problem, also wanted to know I haven't made any progress. The Git limbo doesn't motivate me to finish the code
20130427 13:12:42< mordante> and then maybe have to fiddle around with the patches to get it in a new repo (it is trivial, but I'm not in the mood for it)
20130427 13:13:06< fabi_> Really, I am not in a bad mood because of the git thing.
20130427 13:13:34< mordante> other feedback except the listboxes
20130427 13:13:59< mordante> I'm also not in a bad mood, just don't want to fiddle around with patches from one repo to another one
20130427 13:14:17< fabi_> I really like to see my 2000 commits comming in at once. I will make a screenshot of the chat window then. Hopefully the bot works then. 
20130427 13:14:18< mordante> so once we have a repo I copy that one ugly patch and then polish
20130427 13:14:50< mordante> after that I will look at the matrix class
20130427 13:14:50< fabi_> Would you please explain to me how I can get my code into the new repo later?
20130427 13:15:37< fabi_> I fear that it will get ugly for me as well. I need to clone another location and copy my changes in by filesystem moves, correctly?
20130427 13:15:59< mordante> fabi_, are you using a SF or GH repo?
20130427 13:15:59< fabi_> mordante: Don't worry, your dialog is already doing fine as a placeholder. 
20130427 13:16:10< fabi_> mordante: It is still a SF one.
20130427 13:16:36< mordante> already committed?
20130427 13:16:44< fabi_> not everything
20130427 13:17:04< mordante> but some commits that are polished?
20130427 13:17:10< fabi_> yes
20130427 13:18:08< mordante> use git-format-patch to get them in mbox format
20130427 13:18:37< mordante> the use git-am to apply the mbox as patch-set in the GH repo
20130427 13:19:02< fabi_> Oh, doesn't sound that ugly.
20130427 13:19:07< mordante> but if we use the SF repo at GH you only need to modify your .git/config file
20130427 13:19:24< mordante> it's not hard, I'm just not in the mood for it ;-)
20130427 13:20:28< mordante> but the best thing for now is do nothing and wait until you know what happens on GitHub
20130427 13:20:58< fabi_> Ivanovic: I can wait another week without a working repository, doesn't hurt that much. But I wonder how gsoc works, I mean the students should start to get patches in, shouldn't they?
20130427 13:21:42< mordante> yes and we can't commit patches until the repo is open
20130427 13:21:56< fabi_> mordante: Ah now, can't stop yet. Things went out so well lately, I shouldn't stop the coding spring.
20130427 13:22:27< fabi_> mordante: http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=61524&mode=view
20130427 13:23:02< mordante> fabi_, I don't mean stop coding, but I wouldn't move your patches from SF to GH until you know what happens
20130427 13:23:34< mordante> looks good
20130427 13:23:39< fabi_> Yeah, indeed. I don't commit anything until Ivanovic or esr tell me otherwise.
20130427 13:23:42< mordante> are the spacers also final version
20130427 13:24:00< fabi_> No.
20130427 13:24:19< mordante> I was more referring to the git format-patch and git am part ;-)
20130427 13:24:43< mordante> good since they look bad
20130427 13:24:55< fabi_> Yeah, I should have said I won't push anything...
20130427 13:25:07< mordante> but really a nice facelift
20130427 13:26:06< fabi_> The placeholders were only a concept, we want to delay their work until later, maybe the upper-toolbar will get a frame/box background like the side-toolbar.
20130427 13:26:16< mordante> you also did a great job LordBob_ 
20130427 13:26:31< fabi_> LordBob_: I will make a new one in a second.
20130427 13:26:56< fabi_> mordante: Do you already want to have some feedback on the button matrix dialog?
20130427 13:27:06< mordante> yes
20130427 13:28:08< fabi_> Okay, the fuss is all about short distances, the old solution (Context menu based) did fine otherwise, it got just too long.
20130427 13:28:22< fabi_> The new dialog solves that problem already in a nice way.
20130427 13:29:07< fabi_> But the mouse pointer is far away when the dialog opens. The higher a players screen size,  the longer the distance.
20130427 13:30:00< fabi_> Thus it would either need to be placed around the mouse position like the current context style one, or the mouse pointer would have to jump inside the fresh opened dialog.
20130427 13:30:31 * mordante hates jumping mouse pointers
20130427 13:30:56< fabi_> Yes, I prefer the other solution as well.
20130427 13:31:31< LordBob_> thanks, mordante :) And yet it feels like we're only gearing up: ultimately, I would very much like to produce finer graphics for screen resolutions beyond 1600*1200, and ideally something that might behave well on high res displays such as the iPad Retina. Though this is most likely an entirely different thing, code-wise
20130427 13:32:11< mordante> LordBob_, gui2 has support for it, but it is not finished enough yet :-(
20130427 13:32:55< fabi_> I don't understand.
20130427 13:33:03< mordante> of course seeing the UI being improved motivates me to work on it (unlike the nagging regarding it is not done yet)
20130427 13:33:06< mordante> fabi_, ?
20130427 13:33:12< fabi_> Retina displays are just displays with high resolutions, aren't they?
20130427 13:33:20< LordBob_> Fabi: not exactly
20130427 13:33:28< fabi_> Do they need to get addressed with special something?
20130427 13:33:33< fabi_> coding wise
20130427 13:34:10< fabi_> LordBob_: better use tab completion for chat names. "Fabi:" does not highlight me.
20130427 13:34:36< fabi_> s/highlight me/highlight for me
20130427 13:34:45< mordante> fabi_, they might need some coding support, they have a higher DPI
20130427 13:34:52< LordBob_> Fabi_: from my extremely limited understanding, for an optimal use of the retina display, you provide 2 sets of images with different pixel sizes, but the program treats them only as one size
20130427 13:35:02< mordante> not sure how that affects font sizes
20130427 13:35:43< LordBob_> Fabi: so for instance, instead of creating a 1024 AND a 2048 theme, we create the 1024 one and provide artwork for 1024 and 1024@2x
20130427 13:35:56< LordBob_> (damn that underscore keeps escaping me)
20130427 13:36:17< mordante> LordBob_, what happens if you type fa<tab> ?
20130427 13:36:23< LordBob_> fabi_: the "@2x" suffix behing apple's naming convention for high-res images
20130427 13:36:56< LordBob_> the right thing happens, mordante . I was just trying to type the full name and failing miserably
20130427 13:37:30< mordante> fabi_, we can disable the automatic placement for dialogues, for example the wml_message dialogue does so
20130427 13:37:33< fabi_> LordBob_: My full name is "Fabian" :-)
20130427 13:37:42< fabi_> but fabi is fine.
20130427 13:38:14< mordante> fabi_, that's not your full name :-P
20130427 13:38:37< fabi_> My real full first name :-) RFFN
20130427 13:38:44< LordBob_> fabi_: so, beyond providing artwork in different sizes, my best guess is that some adaptation of the code ise required so that the program may handle properly the whole Retina thing
20130427 13:38:45< mordante> :-P
20130427 13:39:05< LordBob_> s/ ise / is
20130427 13:40:00< vultraz> "Starting May 1, new apps and app updates submitted to the App Store must be built for iOS devices with Retina display and iPhone apps must also support the 4-inch display on iPhone 5. "
20130427 13:40:41< fabi_> mordante: Ah yes, another thing is tooltip support, your buttons use the help system which display their information at the bottom of the screen. But that means a long distance again, not for the hand but for the eye.
20130427 13:41:15-!- flix [~flix@178.77.174.193] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 13:42:02< mordante> fabi_, yeah there is no support yet to show a dialog near the cursor
20130427 13:42:12< LordBob_> I wasn't aware of this Vultraz, but if it will have to happen anyway we might as well prepare for it ^^
20130427 13:42:51< mordante> fabi_, but it should be possible (easy) to add it
20130427 13:42:57< LordBob_> and now, I must be on my way. see you all later.
20130427 13:43:03< mordante> see you later
20130427 13:44:41< vultraz> according to the docs, the iphone 5 has an extra 176 px of screen height
20130427 13:45:04-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 13:45:11< fabi_> vultraz: What resolution does that mean?
20130427 13:47:16-!- itomsawyer [~tomsawyer@2001:da8:215:845:6aa3:c4ff:fe85:a887] has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
20130427 13:48:36< vultraz> fabi_: "1136-by-640-pixel resolution at 326 ppi" according to Apple
20130427 13:54:01< vultraz> fabi_: and apparently the iPad with retina has 2048-by-1536 
20130427 14:08:52-!- Gambit [~gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 14:10:05-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-149-172-228-192.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 14:11:45-!- DCW [~Thunderbi@cpc1-finc14-2-0-cust12.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20130427 14:13:20-!- EliDupree2 [~eli@dhip-029.rrw.residences.colby.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 14:14:42< anonymissimus> mordante: ready
20130427 14:15:19< mordante> nice timing anonymissimus, I'm also ready
20130427 14:15:26< anonymissimus> mordante: I almost think that it is not a MSVC-only problem though, although it doesn't seem to happen in MinGw
20130427 14:15:47< anonymissimus> rather that some undefined behavior is involved and you were just lucky when testing it
20130427 14:16:06< mordante> anonymissimus, I'd like to know what the first .peek() gives are return value and maybe some other checks as well
20130427 14:16:23< anonymissimus> mordante: it returned 0 and then -1
20130427 14:17:04< anonymissimus> the third call returned -1 again, apparently
20130427 14:17:38< anonymissimus> mordante: am I right about that this is just info about where in the file we are at and should not do something ?
20130427 14:18:47-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
20130427 14:19:18< anonymissimus> mordante: also, can you point me to some sensible documentation about the filter.push and filter.peek calls; for .peek() I found http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/istream/basic_istream/peek/ since that boost class apparently inherits ?
20130427 14:19:18< mordante> -1 is EOF
20130427 14:22:48< mordante> anonymissimus, what happens if you change peek() in get(), what does the first call return?
20130427 14:23:01-!- timotei [~pi@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Quit: leaving]
20130427 14:23:23-!- timotei [~pi@79.119.97.62] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 14:23:23-!- timotei [~pi@79.119.97.62] has quit [Changing host]
20130427 14:23:23-!- timotei [~pi@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 14:25:42-!- lipkabb [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 14:27:12-!- timotei [~pi@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has quit [Client Quit]
20130427 14:27:27-!- timotei_ [~timotei@79.119.97.62] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 14:27:28-!- timotei_ [~timotei@79.119.97.62] has quit [Changing host]
20130427 14:27:28-!- timotei_ [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 14:28:03-!- timotei [~timotei@wesnoth/developer/timotei] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 14:37:32< anonymissimus> mordante: 109
20130427 14:38:00< anonymissimus> "LOG_CF << "filter.get(): " << filter.get() << "\n";"
20130427 14:38:36-!- lipkabb [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20130427 14:39:47< mordante> anonymissimus, I actually are more interested in file.get()
20130427 14:40:02< mordante> the peeks you posted before were the from file or from filter?
20130427 14:41:07< anonymissimus> from the filter
20130427 14:41:25< mordante> ok
20130427 14:41:30< anonymissimus> LOG_CF << "file.peek(): " << file.peek() << "\n"; is 31
20130427 14:42:03< mordante> and file.get() instead of peek?
20130427 14:42:19< anonymissimus> everything limited to the 2 byte cache file 
20130427 14:42:43< anonymissimus> which is also the only one that I cannot unpack
20130427 14:42:56< mordante> and an empty file fails?
20130427 14:44:14< anonymissimus> don't about completely empty cache files
20130427 14:45:55< fabi_> mordante: I added tooltip support to the gui1 buttons. That was very simple.
20130427 14:47:23< fabi_> vultraz: Tx, I think just taking the double sized icons and new backgrounds should work for that resolution. LordBob_ already produced the big versions for most artwork.
20130427 14:48:14< mordante> anonymissimus, ah ok, the original bug talked about empty files
20130427 14:49:07< mordante> anonymissimus, but you mean this part http://gna.org/bugs/?16544#comment10
20130427 14:49:46< mordante> anonymissimus, and http://gna.org/bugs/?16544#comment11 mentions an exception thrown
20130427 14:50:28< mordante> anonymissimus, did you recently change your boost version? I suspect the behaviour of boost might have changed
20130427 14:50:41< anonymissimus> mordante: the empty file thing was referring to an empty _main.cfg, or one that contains only comments
20130427 14:51:02< anonymissimus> mordante: and I indeed have such an addon, the wesnoth UMC music one
20130427 14:51:24< anonymissimus> mordante: and indeed removing that addon prevents the problem
20130427 14:51:26< mordante> fabi_, good, I have code that should allow you to better place the dialogue, testing it later this afternoon/evening
20130427 14:52:22< anonymissimus> mordante: boost is 1.46.1; not the MSVC one; I think the problem happened since when the "cache isn't used at all" bug has been fixed
20130427 14:52:44< anonymissimus> so was already presernt and got uncovered
20130427 14:55:47< fabi_> mordante: cool
20130427 15:00:51-!- lipkabb [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 15:01:28< mordante> anonymissimus, can you test this patch? http://paste.debian.net/599/
20130427 15:03:29< anonymissimus> after I retrieve the value for file.get() yes
20130427 15:04:07< mordante> anonymissimus, ?
20130427 15:07:15< anonymissimus> mordante: LOG_CF << "file.get(): " << file.get() << "\n"; for the corrupt file is 3
20130427 15:13:58< anonymissimus> mordante: looks like that patch works
20130427 15:14:50< mordante> anonymissimus, ok good I'll test the patch a bit more later and then commit it, thanks for testing
20130427 15:14:55< anonymissimus> mordante: it feels wrong to me that that cache file is created at all; the engine should better ignore addons with an empty _main.cfg instead of ingoring the resulting cache files when re-reading
20130427 15:15:32< mordante> true we might want to look at that as well, but I also like to have the engine robust against bad data
20130427 15:16:05< mordante> and I've no idea why boost doesn't throw an exception, but returns a file with size 1 and a NUL character as content
20130427 15:16:31< anonymissimus> well, there is an exception or something
20130427 15:16:42< anonymissimus> later on, without the workarounds
20130427 15:16:56< mordante> where?
20130427 15:19:04< anonymissimus> mordante: pls explain "where ?"
20130427 15:20:41< mordante> anonymissimus, nevermind I found the exception, jdaniels added an exception check there but it slowed the code too much
20130427 15:20:48< mordante> so I added this other work-around
20130427 15:21:04< anonymissimus> Eine Ausnahme (erste Chance) bei 0x7c812aeb in wesnoth.exe: Microsoft C++-Ausnahme: boost::exception_detail::clone_impl<boost::exception_detail::error_info_injector<boost::iostreams::gzip_error> > an Speicherposition 0x0012bd68..
20130427 15:21:06< anonymissimus> Eine Ausnahme (erste Chance) bei 0x7c812aeb in wesnoth.exe: Microsoft C++-Ausnahme: std::ios_base::failure an Speicherposition 0x0012c4a0..
20130427 15:21:34< anonymissimus> this comes normally when I restart the debugger without deleting the corrupt chae file
20130427 15:21:46< anonymissimus> and it aborts
20130427 15:24:58< mordante> will look at it later, I think the fix you tested will be the fix to be used
20130427 15:25:04< mordante> off for now
20130427 15:25:13-!- lipkabb [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20130427 15:25:23-!- lipkabb [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 15:25:49-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@c-75-67-154-18.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 15:25:49-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@c-75-67-154-18.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host]
20130427 15:25:50-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 15:28:49-!- lipkabb [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Client Quit]
20130427 15:28:58-!- lipkabb [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 15:32:13-!- EliDupree2 is now known as Elvish_Pillager
20130427 15:41:20-!- flix1 [~flix@178.77.174.193] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 15:41:20-!- flix [~flix@178.77.174.193] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20130427 15:42:01-!- leo42 [~leo42@cpe-384193.ip.primehome.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 15:42:39-!- flix1 is now known as flix
20130427 15:44:23-!- DCW [~Thunderbi@cpc1-finc14-2-0-cust12.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 15:55:26-!- GrayS [Gray@dhcp0206.vpm.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 15:55:38-!- GrayS [Gray@dhcp0206.vpm.resnet.group.upenn.edu] has left #wesnoth-dev []
20130427 16:00:35-!- leo42 [~leo42@cpe-384193.ip.primehome.com] has quit []
20130427 16:03:07-!- vinipsmaker [~vinipsmak@179.235.172.172] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 16:07:46-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 16:10:16-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20130427 16:14:48-!- stikonas [~gentoo@dhcp-128-232-134-133.eduroam.csx.cam.ac.uk] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 16:14:49-!- stikonas [~gentoo@dhcp-128-232-134-133.eduroam.csx.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Changing host]
20130427 16:14:49-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 16:21:18-!- lipkabb [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20130427 16:25:07-!- Kexoth [~kex@78.157.29.209] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 16:25:13-!- thunderstruck [~thunderst@cpc5-sgyl29-2-0-cust174.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 16:25:58-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20130427 16:26:56-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 16:29:59-!- ancestral [~ancestral@67-6-53-117.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 16:32:48-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-149-172-228-192.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 11.0/20120312181643]]
20130427 16:33:38-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: bumbadadabum]
20130427 16:43:26-!- Kexoth_ [~kex@78.157.29.209] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 16:44:06-!- DCW [~Thunderbi@cpc1-finc14-2-0-cust12.4-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: DCW]
20130427 16:46:29-!- Kexoth [~kex@78.157.29.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]
20130427 16:49:54-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20130427 17:04:05-!- Kexoth_ [~kex@78.157.29.209] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20130427 17:05:54-!- Kexoth [~kex@78.157.29.209] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 17:07:57-!- Kexoth [~kex@78.157.29.209] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20130427 17:09:17-!- nephro [516e7ce1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.110.124.225] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 17:21:20-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20130427 17:30:15-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20130427 17:50:57-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 17:57:48-!- {V} [~V@139-79-ftth.on.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20130427 18:00:42< fabi_> LordBob_: ping
20130427 18:12:41< nephro> what threading libraries/concepts does wesnoth use?
20130427 18:14:05-!- mattsc [~mattsc@d154-20-34-165.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 18:21:59-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-16-62.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 18:24:56-!- ThePawnBreak [~cristi@188.26.90.124] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 18:31:52-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 18:39:11< AI0867> mordante: the wesnoth/wesnoth project is missing the branches and they're missing because esr made a mistake somewhere in the conversion. If the next conversion matches, he may be able to add the branches without having to replace the repo, but don't count on that
20130427 18:39:43< AI0867> I think the best option is to rename wesnoth-test (which is a mirror of the SF repo) to wesnoth-old and open that up
20130427 18:39:59< AI0867> but there's something in the irker toolchain that I'd like to debug first
20130427 18:40:14< AI0867> Ivanovic: ^
20130427 18:41:43< AI0867> the command to switch will be similar to: git remote set-url origin git@github.com:wesnoth/wesnoth-test.git
20130427 18:46:59-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: bumbadadabum]
20130427 18:55:48-!- ancestral [~ancestral@67-6-53-117.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai]
20130427 18:57:18< fabi_> AI0867: Better rename wesnoth to wesnoth-test and wesnoth-test to just wesnoth.
20130427 18:59:07-!- redeian [42190422@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.25.4.34] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 18:59:36< redeian> Hello everyone
20130427 19:00:37-!- ancestral [~ancestral@67-6-53-117.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 19:01:36-!- Shofixti [~shofixti2@sdbron9882w-047054042179.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.on.FibreOp.ca] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 19:02:48< Shofixti> mordante: Allo, you tried to reach me earlier?
20130427 19:08:27-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 19:09:59-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 19:10:09< redeian> Yes Mordante
20130427 19:17:46-!- Shofixti [~shofixti2@sdbron9882w-047054042179.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.on.FibreOp.ca] has quit [Quit: Shofixti flees the scene]
20130427 19:23:24< AI0867> fabi_: I'd rather that neither of them is named plain 'wesnoth' until the conversion is done
20130427 19:23:33-!- Shofixti [~shofixti2@sdbron9882w-047054042179.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.on.FibreOp.ca] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 19:25:10-!- Shofixti [~shofixti2@sdbron9882w-047054042179.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.on.FibreOp.ca] has quit [Client Quit]
20130427 19:25:18-!- Shofixti [~shofixti2@sdbron9882w-047054042179.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.on.FibreOp.ca] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 19:26:43< nephro> mattsc: btw wanted to ask. The algs that proved to be too slow for production level campaigns, were they campaign specific or somewhat generic, i.e. could they replace any of the algorithms in mainline?
20130427 19:33:17< fabi_> LordBob_: http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=61561&mode=view
20130427 19:33:37< fabi_> mordante: ^
20130427 19:34:31< fabi_> zookeeper: The last screenshot shows a first implementation of the terrain type icons. ^
20130427 19:34:54< redeian> Mordante: Would you mind mask me as a GSoC Student account?
20130427 19:35:21< redeian> I've registered at Wesnoth forum.
20130427 19:41:31< mattsc> nephro: they are meant to be generic algorithms for attacking and unit placement.  They are currently specialized for the Freelands map (and Northerners to some extent), but the goal is to generalize them in the end.
20130427 19:42:27< lipkab> fabi_: That is quite amazing.
20130427 19:43:14< mattsc> nephro: actually, the algorithms taking up all the CPU time are general already, but they are currently used only in the specific situation.
20130427 19:43:15< fabi_> lipkab: The last one is more or less the final product.
20130427 19:43:36< mattsc> *THAT specific situation
20130427 19:45:28-!- nephro [516e7ce1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.110.124.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20130427 19:47:59-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20130427 19:48:15-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 19:49:52< mordante> AI0867, ok, is there than a reason to switch to GitHub instead of staying at SF until esr is done?
20130427 19:50:42< thunderstruck> mordante, hi. Is there a drop-down box in GUI2?
20130427 19:51:01< mordante> Shofixti, more to see whether you've been on IRC, reviewed your GSoC application today
20130427 19:51:57< mordante> redeian, yes
20130427 19:52:30< mordante> fabi_, nice
20130427 19:52:52< mordante> thunderstruck, nope
20130427 19:53:10< mordante> fabi_, did you get my mail?
20130427 19:54:37< thunderstruck> mordante, how hard it would be to implement one?
20130427 19:54:49< redeian> Thank you Mordante
20130427 19:54:53-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
20130427 19:54:56< fabi_> mordante: Yes, just discovered it, tx!
20130427 19:55:23-!- prkc [~negusnyul@2E6B5202.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 19:55:56< mordante> redeian, was more to your other yes... will do the other forum later
20130427 19:56:23< mordante> thunderstruck, depends. I'm not happy with the listbox class, once that is finished I think it will be not too hard
20130427 19:56:39< redeian> I have an idea for Wesnoth, do you think I should post here first, or go write a proposal immediately?
20130427 19:57:04< mordante> thunderstruck, especially not with the code I wrote for the group popup in the editor
20130427 19:57:23< mordante> you're welcome fabi_, let me know what you think
20130427 19:57:52< thunderstruck> mordante, ok. I was thinking about this, because of some changes to mp create window which I wrote about in my proposal.
20130427 19:58:10< mordante> redeian, we generally like to discuss here, depending on the size of the proposal it is easier to discuss here directly or write something on the wiki and discuss afterwards
20130427 19:58:25< thunderstruck> mordante, but it is not very important thing. So I won't bug you with this now :)
20130427 19:58:40< mordante> thunderstruck, it is possible and with the new code quite easy, but I like to focus on the listboxes as well
20130427 19:58:44< redeian> sure. I will write something first and take about it.
20130427 19:59:34< mordante> (actually the more I think about it it seems quite easy to add it if needed)
20130427 20:04:06< Shofixti> I'm intent on getting VS2010 working with compiling Wesnoth, but damn it's uncooperative
20130427 20:06:25< Shofixti> mordante: Any criticisms on my application, besides what you mentioned in the comment?
20130427 20:07:07< mordante> Shofixti, that some people here like color, but I prefer colour ;-)
20130427 20:07:26< mordante> and no idea regarding compilation on Windows
20130427 20:07:45-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 20:08:17< Shofixti> Hell yeah browny points! But yeah, as for compiling... I'll get it eventually. Worst case scenario i'll just go back to Eclipse
20130427 20:08:56< thunderstruck> Shofixti, http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SummerOfCodeIdeas#Student_proposals_not_submitted_to_google
20130427 20:09:19< thunderstruck> Shofixti, I think you need to remove SoC tags from some of your pages.
20130427 20:09:31< Shofixti> Good spot, yeah, i'll look into that
20130427 20:09:32< Shofixti> Thanks
20130427 20:09:35< thunderstruck> Shofixti, because page formatting is a bit messed up.
20130427 20:09:39< thunderstruck> Shofixti, no problem.
20130427 20:11:53< Shofixti> That should do it. There's also a problem with my proposal appearing as a sub-element of the proposal above me, but I think that may not be my doing
20130427 20:12:19< mordante> redeian, what's your forum accountname?
20130427 20:14:05< redeian> mordante,redeian
20130427 20:14:45-!- nephro [516e7ce1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.110.124.225] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 20:14:45< mordante> redeian, you're in
20130427 20:14:54< AI0867> mordante: well, I've finally managed to disable SF
20130427 20:14:58< redeian> Yay thank you!
20130427 20:15:06< mordante> you're welcome
20130427 20:15:28< mordante> AI0867, then I won't ask to reenable it :-P
20130427 20:15:57< AI0867> and this way we can start using the github org (so the dev group gets more populated before we start using the 'real' repo)
20130427 20:16:57-!- eLRuLL [~eLRuLL@190.237.69.176] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 20:17:39< nephro> mattsc: I got this issue that my client disconnects all the time and I can only read your answers in logs :) that's why I'm unresponsive kind of
20130427 20:18:38< nephro> mattsc: the fact the alg takes up the whole cpu is normal, the problem is the amount of time it takes before producing a result
20130427 20:19:01< lipkab> AI0867: Would you please add me in the GitHub project?
20130427 20:19:05< lipkab> I'm lipk.
20130427 20:19:08< AI0867> lipkab: k
20130427 20:19:35< AI0867> done
20130427 20:19:47< lipkab> Thanks.
20130427 20:19:58< lipkab> That was fast.
20130427 20:19:58< wesbot> lipkab: Sometimes we are fast
20130427 20:20:09< lipkab> Hee hee.
20130427 20:24:18< mordante> fabi_, LordBob_ regarding the new popup that can automatically disappear, I'd like to give it a different border so the user knows what to expect
20130427 20:24:35< mordante> what are your opinions?
20130427 20:25:41-!- Kexoth [~kex@79.126.143.116] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 20:27:26< nephro> AI0867: can you add me too? SF acc - nephro
20130427 20:29:48< AI0867> I'm adding people to the github wesnoth org
20130427 20:29:51< AI0867> not SF
20130427 20:30:16< mattsc> nephro: and I am not responsive because while logged in, I am not actually at the computer  :)
20130427 20:30:24< AI0867> despite having supposedly recieved them like a month ago, I still don't have functioning SF adminpowers
20130427 20:30:34< nephro> AI0867: I'm confused now then
20130427 20:31:05< AI0867> we have a repo on SF, it's frozen now, and esr added people to that project
20130427 20:31:09-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-149-172-228-192.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 20:31:16< AI0867> we have a mirror of that on github, in the 'wesnoth' organization
20130427 20:31:35< nephro> AI0867: I see. I'll have to look up my github acc
20130427 20:34:22-!- threkk [~threkk@82.159.250.228.static.user.ono.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 20:34:34-!- threkk [~threkk@82.159.250.228.static.user.ono.com] has left #wesnoth-dev []
20130427 20:35:12< nephro> AI0867: github acc dmitry-gla. 
20130427 20:37:06-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20130427 20:38:22< LordBob_> fabi_: pong
20130427 20:38:27< AI0867> nephro: added
20130427 20:38:42< fabi_> LordBob_: http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=61561&mode=view
20130427 20:38:43< nephro> AI0867: alright, thank you
20130427 20:38:52-!- alushnikov [~quassel@ppp109-111-149-250.tis-dialog.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 20:39:05< alushnikov> Hi guys!
20130427 20:39:15< mordante> hi alushnikov 
20130427 20:39:17< alushnikov> Any admin here to talk about GSoC? :)
20130427 20:39:52< mordante> alushnikov, I assume you mean a mentor, I am one
20130427 20:40:00< fabi_> mordante: I think a different border is a good idea.
20130427 20:40:16< LordBob_> fabi_: screenshot's nice. Maybe we should try and come up with a text box dedicated to the terrain info so that the user immediately gets its meaning, but other than that I'm glad to see it put to use
20130427 20:40:36< LordBob_> (textbox= background, of course)
20130427 20:42:38< LordBob_> mordante: I'm all for it, but I have absolutely no idea what popup we're talking about here
20130427 20:42:54< nephro> AI0867: there seem to be 0 repositories there, but I guess I'll worry about committing later on
20130427 20:43:24< mordante> LordBob_, the popup for the terrain groups
20130427 20:43:27< AI0867> they're both public, but neither are writable to devs right now
20130427 20:43:39< AI0867> I'll make one of the two public 'soon'
20130427 20:43:45< alushnikov> mordante, just wanted to ask if any idea from http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SummerOfCodeIdeas or easyCoding or NotSoEasyCoding has already been implemented?
20130427 20:43:48< fabi_> LordBob_: The one I called ugly.
20130427 20:44:20< LordBob_> fabi_: btw, the optionals tools line looks great like this 
20130427 20:44:57< alushnikov> mordante, there's a requirement to show off a bit doing some cool code before GSoC :))
20130427 20:45:00< LordBob_> And we can keep the terrain group icons white; I think it will help differenciate them from the tools
20130427 20:45:57< nephro> alushnikov: non of the ideas in the ideas page are implemented, these are ideas for projects during the summer
20130427 20:46:37< alushnikov> nephro, they don't seem very hard. Nevertheless, there are still two pages EasyCoding and NotSoEasyCoding
20130427 20:47:27< mordante> alushnikov, the ideas listed under easy and not so easy coding shouldn't be implemented yet
20130427 20:47:36< fabi_> LordBob_: How would a terrain specific textbox background look like?
20130427 20:47:56< mordante> alushnikov, if you want to work on one best to discuss it here so we can give advice
20130427 20:47:58< LordBob_> mordante, fabi_ : if the popup is ready code-wise, you can provide a screenshot of its current state and I'll begin work. Overall, I agree that it would be nice if we could adopt a design that would be common to all pop-up with a similar behaviour
20130427 20:49:05< anonymissimus> Shofixti: as for the behavior you get when trying to launch the debugger; I haven't seen it like this yet, sorry
20130427 20:49:36< alushnikov> mordante, ok, thanks. I'll check these sections and get back to you!
20130427 20:49:41< Shofixti> I might want to talk about tackling one or two of the EasyCoding and NotSoEasyCoding projects as well. Assuming I can ever get an IDE up and running.
20130427 20:49:45< anonymissimus> Shofixti: you may want to make sure hat you delete the cache directory wesnoth uses, but it doesn't look like that interferes
20130427 20:49:54< fabi_> LordBob_: I would suggest we wait until the dialog is ready and continue with the normal dialog border 
20130427 20:49:55-!- Crendgrim [~quassel@g224213238.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 20:50:02< fabi_> LordBob_: and background
20130427 20:50:11< Shofixti> anonymissimus: I'll double check to be sure. Thanks all the same!
20130427 20:50:12< fabi_> LordBob_: Plus a preess button.
20130427 20:50:27< anonymissimus> Shofixti: the errors when compiling sure look like your include directories are still wrong
20130427 20:50:35< AI0867> okay, I have just pushed the original_1.10 and original_master tags to wesnoth-old
20130427 20:50:41< fabi_> LordBob_: The border around the preferences dialog for example.
20130427 20:50:59< AI0867> to switch origin from SF to github: git remote set-url origin git@github.com:wesnoth/wesnoth-old.git
20130427 20:51:01< Shofixti> anonymissimus: I've suspected as much too, but i've checked that 4 times now
20130427 20:51:14< AI0867> the developer group now has write-access to that repo
20130427 20:51:49< anonymissimus> Shofixti: perhaps you need to set a additional subdirectories to be included; look at the #include directives in the code
20130427 20:52:29< AI0867> and I've renamed 'wesnoth' to 'wesnoth-unfinished'
20130427 20:53:36< Shofixti> anonymissimus: No harm in adding tons of directories to look in I suppose. I'll try that
20130427 20:53:39< LordBob_> fabi_: something similar to the preferences window would be a good start. But in the long term, it would be nice indeed if the overall appearance of any dialog gave the user an immediate clue as to its behaviour
20130427 20:53:47< anonymissimus> Shofixti: AFAIK nurupo and timotei also use or have used VS2010; nurupo made the package you use
20130427 20:55:55< mordante> LordBob_, http://imagebin.org/255610, the button grid is the part that is ugly and needs to be worked on by me
20130427 20:55:56< LordBob_> fabi_: regarding the terrain info textbox, I would say at the very least a single status box wide enough to engulf all three sections of the terrain info (coordinates, icons, text label)
20130427 20:56:20-!- irker058 [~irker@ai0867.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 20:56:20< irker058> Wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel :1.10 * c800537 / src/version.cpp: http://git.io/XA5mjw
20130427 20:56:20< irker058> Wesnoth: Add a missing include that only MSVC10 cares about
20130427 20:56:22< fabi_> LordBob_: But I did use one of yours already.
20130427 20:56:29< fabi_> LordBob_: It is just a little dark.
20130427 20:57:11< fabi_> LordBob_: I used gimp to enlarge your non cooper version.
20130427 20:57:25< Shofixti> I'm letting it build again, we'll see how this one goes
20130427 20:57:27< mordante> AI0867, is that a test or did you make it public?
20130427 20:57:33< AI0867> no, that's public
20130427 20:57:59< mordante> AI0867, I think we should wait until tomorrow evening, for esr to react
20130427 20:58:31< fabi_> LordBob_: Ah, I see. The terrain name is in a different box currently.
20130427 20:58:40< AI0867> well, I did the requisite work right now. You can wait with actually using it until tomorrow
20130427 20:58:44< AI0867> I may not be present then
20130427 20:58:52< LordBob_> fabi_, I see it, but I think it might be preferable to put all three sections in a single status box, and if need be change the background for that
20130427 20:59:05< LordBob_> fabi_: exactly
20130427 20:59:30-!- alushnikov [~quassel@ppp109-111-149-250.tis-dialog.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
20130427 20:59:48< fabi_> LordBob_: Okay, let me suggest a new layout. I will make a screenshot.
20130427 20:59:53< AI0867> I'm also going to push that same commit to master, but then I'll be off
20130427 21:00:53-!- nephro [516e7ce1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.110.124.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20130427 21:00:53-!- redeian [42190422@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.25.4.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20130427 21:00:56< irker058> Wesnoth: Alexander van Gessel :master * 7421197 / src/version.cpp: http://git.io/Xtx_Hw
20130427 21:00:57< irker058> Wesnoth: Add a missing include that only MSVC10 cares about
20130427 21:01:06< LordBob_> mordante: I'll propose a few mockups based on the content of the pop-up. Just to be sure of its behaviour, it pops up when the user clicks the terrain group button above the palette and disappears as soon as a terrain button inside the popup is clicked ?
20130427 21:01:44< anonymissimus> Shofixti: do you use 64bit win 7 or so 
20130427 21:02:00< Shofixti> anonymissimus: Aye, 64bit
20130427 21:02:02< anonymissimus> "SysWOW64" soudns unfamiliar
20130427 21:02:14< mordante> LordBob_, yes, but it also disappears if you click outside the window, this is the equivalent for cancel
20130427 21:02:28< anonymissimus> well, you perhaps get unknown problems then
20130427 21:02:50-!- redeian [42190422@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.25.4.34] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 21:02:52< Shofixti> anonymissimus: If my memory of Computer Organization class serves me well, SysWOW64 is where requisite DLLs are placed temporarily at compile time in 64 bit systems
20130427 21:03:01< anonymissimus> as I never tried on newer than win xp
20130427 21:04:06< anonymissimus> but I could debug under vc10 the last time I tried
20130427 21:04:54< Shofixti> Just as an expierment, i'll try on my XP Laptop
20130427 21:05:12< Shofixti> For now though, I've got to take off for a bit. I'll make a final stab at it when I get back
20130427 21:05:25< fabi_> LordBob_: Hmm, isn't as easy as I thought. I basically wanted the menubar to go all across the screen.
20130427 21:05:39< Shofixti> Thanks for the assistance!
20130427 21:05:58-!- Shofixti [~shofixti2@sdbron9882w-047054042179.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.on.FibreOp.ca] has quit [Quit: Shofixti flees the scene]
20130427 21:10:58< anonymissimus> AI0867: okay, so I type that command git remote set-url origin git@github.com:wesnoth/wesnoth-old.git and I'm done or what ?
20130427 21:11:07-!- PL_kolek [~PL_kolek@dynamic-62-87-129-75.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20130427 21:11:52< LordBob_> mordante: ok, so there only needs to be space for the terrain buttons, nothing else. Noted
20130427 21:12:08< LordBob_> fabi_: this is precisely what I had in mind too
20130427 21:13:37< AI0867> anonymissimus: if you have a github account and it's in the wesnoth organization, then yes
20130427 21:13:49< LordBob_> fabi_: no more vertical border, the menu bar and sidebar appear as one single piece
20130427 21:14:00< AI0867> pull and see if you get the commit reported here a few minutes ago
20130427 21:14:29< LordBob_> fabi_: alternately, we nudge down the minimap + tools and wrtie the terrain info on two lines
20130427 21:14:36< LordBob_> *write
20130427 21:18:32< anonymissimus> looks as if I have to fiddle with the private/public key stuff...
20130427 21:20:51< mordante> LordBob_, yes for this dialogue, but we might have more of them in the future
20130427 21:21:09< mordante> so I'd like to have them generic build like the normal windows as well
20130427 21:21:26< AI0867> ah, yes, that was an ssh url, you can also use https if you like
20130427 21:22:23< mordante> LordBob_, and I also would like to think about the tooltip windows, for example if you hover over a unit in the main game
20130427 21:22:30 * anonymissimus knows absolutely nothing about ssh and https
20130427 21:23:15< anonymissimus> well, but seems that just taking the one I had in my gna account worked
20130427 21:23:36< anonymissimus> while the local pendants are still the same
20130427 21:24:50< anonymissimus> hopefully it works on windows automatically now (currently on Linux)
20130427 21:31:16< LordBob_> mordante, I m not sure what this window is. Do you mean the section of the right sidebar where the unit description appears, or is there a pop-up window of sorts that I would have missed so far ?
20130427 21:31:47-!- ThePawnBreak [~cristi@188.26.90.124] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20130427 21:32:02< LordBob_> mordante: and sure, I'll try and come up with a series of designs that can be easily adapted to a variety of windows :)
20130427 21:33:29< mordante> LordBob_, if your mouse is over a unit in the sidebar a tooltip is shown with extra information
20130427 21:33:56< mordante> it now is a transparent 'black' rectangle with white text
20130427 21:34:19< mordante> IMO it could use a border to give it more 'style'
20130427 21:36:46-!- Kexoth [~kex@79.126.143.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20130427 21:38:47< LordBob_> mordante: such as the detailed weapon damage tool tip ? 
20130427 21:38:55-!- [Relic] [~relic@99-58-54-211.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 21:39:39< mordante> LordBob_, yes
20130427 21:41:16< LordBob_> mordante, agreed a border would be an improvement. I would go for something light since we do not necessarily want to completely steal the focus, yet with enough character that it can withstand the bling of the new UI design
20130427 21:41:20-!- Shofixti [~shofixti2@sdbron9882w-047054042179.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.on.FibreOp.ca] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 21:41:29< LordBob_> I'll make mockups for that too.
20130427 21:41:39-!- Kexoth [~kex@79.126.143.116] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 21:42:19-!- eLRuLL [~eLRuLL@190.237.69.176] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
20130427 21:43:52< LordBob_> mordante: are all images for the existing windows located in the ressources/images/dialogs folder ?
20130427 21:44:08< mordante> nice and my feeling exactly, something small but giving it a more polished look
20130427 21:44:42-!- thunderstruck [~thunderst@cpc5-sgyl29-2-0-cust174.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20130427 21:45:22< mordante> LordBob_, not sure let me dig a bit
20130427 21:47:05< mordante> LordBob_, in images/dialogs/
20130427 21:47:44< mordante> the default windows use opaque class
20130427 21:47:58< mordante> the title screen uses the translucent54 class
20130427 21:48:14< mordante> the in game translucent uses the translucent65 class
20130427 21:48:41-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 21:48:49< mordante> not sure where the menu2 class is used, at least not in GUI2
20130427 21:49:33< LordBob_> mordante, I think menu2 is for the scrolling menus. I updated it recently for the editor
20130427 21:50:22< mordante> that could be
20130427 21:55:44-!- vultraz [~chatzilla@wesnoth/developer/vultraz] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 21:56:41< mordante> I'm off, night
20130427 21:57:16-!- mordante [~mordante@wesnoth/developer/mordante] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
20130427 22:01:13-!- alushnikov [~quassel@ppp109-111-149-250.tis-dialog.ru] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 22:03:02-!- Kexoth [~kex@79.126.143.116] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
20130427 22:07:00-!- Shofixti [~shofixti2@sdbron9882w-047054042179.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.on.FibreOp.ca] has quit [Quit: Shofixti flees the scene]
20130427 22:13:48-!- redeian [42190422@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.25.4.34] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
20130427 22:16:01-!- Shofixti [~shofixti2@sdbron9882w-047054042179.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.on.FibreOp.ca] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 22:19:04-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20130427 22:33:25-!- Iordanis [Iordanis@host214-207.cvd.fit.edu] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 22:39:13-!- alushnikov [~quassel@ppp109-111-149-250.tis-dialog.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20130427 22:40:17-!- mattsc [~mattsc@d154-20-34-165.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: bye]
20130427 22:40:42-!- mattsc [~mattsc@d154-20-34-165.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 22:56:18< Iordanis> which version of wesnoth we will develop on for GSOC?
20130427 22:56:26< Iordanis> I assume the stable one?
20130427 22:57:37-!- Blueblaze2 [~Blueblaze@76.202.18.250] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 23:00:14-!- Blueblaze [~Blueblaze@adsl-76-202-16-62.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
20130427 23:00:14-!- Blueblaze2 is now known as Blueblaze
20130427 23:08:48-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has joined #wesnoth-dev
20130427 23:13:54< anonymissimus> Iordanis: trunk of course
20130427 23:14:09< anonymissimus> perhaps on a branch of that
20130427 23:14:31-!- prkc [~negusnyul@2E6B5202.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
20130427 23:15:48< anonymissimus> my url now says git@github.com:wesnoth/wesnoth-old.git which looks as if it will be what you can clone, wait till tomorrow 20:00 pm GMT+2 to be sure 
20130427 23:17:42-!- anonymissimus [~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-149-172-228-192.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 12.0/20120423122928]]
20130427 23:18:19-!- Nephro [516e7ce1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.110.124.225] has joined #wesnoth-dev
--- Log closed Sun Apr 28 00:00:02 2013