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20130412 02:38:03< irker231> AI-Demos: mattsc master * r343cd64 / lua/grunt-rush-Freelands-S1_engine.lua : Fred zone attack eval: do counter attack calculation for all units - http://git.io/bV0RUw
20130412 02:38:04< irker231> ... not just for the side leader.
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20130412 06:08:36< irker302> AI-Demos: mattsc master * r1205cd4 / lua/grunt-rush-Freelands-S1_engine.lua : Fred zone attack eval: different criteria for attack being too dangerous for leader vs. other units - http://git.io/GWrCCQ
20130412 06:08:37< irker302> A leader unit should be much more cautious about attacking than a
20130412 06:08:37< irker302> non-leader unit.
20130412 06:20:32< AI0867> mattsc: 
20130412 06:20:34< AI0867> error scripting/lua: .../add-ons/AI-demos/lua/grunt-rush-Freelands-S1_engine.lua:1471: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'max_damage' (a nil value)
20130412 06:20:37< AI0867> stack traceback: .../add-ons/AI-demos/lua/grunt-rush-Freelands-S1_engine.lua:1471: in function 'zone_action_attack' .../add-ons/AI-demos/lua/grunt-rush-Freelands-S1_engine.lua:1727: in function 'get_zone_action' .../add-ons/AI-demos/lua/grunt-rush-Freelands-S1_engine.lua:1774: in function <.../add-ons/AI-demos/lua/grunt-rush-Freelands-S1_engine.lua:1759> (...tail calls...)
20130412 06:22:02< mattsc> AI0867: Hmm, I had it run through *many* test cases and it never did that for me.
20130412 06:22:47< AI0867> it does that on a regular basis if I run it against the RCA ai with the display on
20130412 06:22:54< AI0867> tends to be about halfway into the match
20130412 06:23:06< mattsc> I'll look into it later tonight or tomorrow morning (can't do it right this moment).  Thanks.
20130412 06:23:26< AI0867> I'll get something like 5-15 of these, spaced out over 2 or 3 turns
20130412 06:25:13< mattsc> Hmm, I've done at least 5 full games against the RCA AI (in nogui mode, but that shouldn't be a problem) without seeing it once.
20130412 06:25:45< mattsc> shouldn't be a problem = shouldn't make a difference for this kind of error
20130412 06:25:52< mattsc> I'll check it out.
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20130412 07:30:08< irker302> AI-Demos: mattsc master * r9e8fcb4 / lua/grunt-rush-Freelands-S1_engine.lua : Fred zone attack eval: fix bug in previous commit - http://git.io/kQpKrg
20130412 07:30:09< irker302> Need to move max_damage variable out of 'if' codeblock to make it
20130412 07:30:09< irker302> available later.
20130412 07:30:19< mattsc> AI0867: ^
20130412 07:32:13< mattsc> That should do it.  I still don't understand why I did not get that error (it really should have occurred at least a few times in the tests I did).
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20130412 07:34:30< mattsc> Fred's a bit scared at the moment, but we'll get that under control ...
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20130412 09:20:13< irker302> wesnoth-umc-dev: vultraz * r18084 /trunk/NX-RPG/plotnotes.txt: 
20130412 09:20:14< irker302> wesnoth-umc-dev: NX: updated Rhyan's bio
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20130412 14:45:05< AI0867> mattsc: that fixes it
20130412 14:45:39< AI0867> I've seen fred do some stupid things regarding villages lately though
20130412 14:46:12< AI0867> I've seen it outright park a unit next to a village in range from enemies
20130412 14:46:40< AI0867> but also moving the leader off a village (to recruit) that is right next to both enemies and own units
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20130412 15:17:50< mattsc> AI0867: thanks for testing that.
20130412 15:18:36< mattsc> Yeah, Fred's not very "well adjusted" at the moment.  I've spent almost my entire time over the last couple months on changing some of the internal working of the code, mostly to make it faster.
20130412 15:20:02< mattsc> I put the changes in the CAs, but I really only made sure that they technically work, a lot of the rating parameters are well off (what I did to attacks yesterday is a prime example).
20130412 15:20:44< mattsc> That's why I've been telling skyfaller that it's not worth his time testing Fred yet.
20130412 15:21:11< mattsc> But I think I'm at the point where the optimizing code is done (at least for now) and I can work on the actual behavior.
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20130412 20:31:30< irker438> AI-Demos: mattsc master * r64ce829 / lua/grunt-rush-Freelands-S1_engine.lua : Fred zone attack eval: move units into attack positions before counter attack calculation - http://git.io/BrMWxg
20130412 20:31:30< irker438> This means all units for the attack combination under consideration,
20130412 20:31:30< irker438> not just the one that is currently attacking, as other attacker units
20130412 20:31:30< irker438> might zoc enemies from being able to launch a counter attack.
20130412 20:32:09< mattsc> AI0867: that ^ fixes some of the issues (not all) of Fred being to timid in his attacks after my changes yesterday.
20130412 20:32:29< mattsc> Unit positioning for non-attack moves is still badly messed up though.
20130412 20:32:53< mattsc> That's next on the list ...
20130412 20:41:07< vultraz> are you trying to make the ai perfectly calculate the optimal unit position of their units based on enemy unit position and possible moves?
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20130412 20:44:49< mattsc> vultraz: well, a decent approximation of that, at least
20130412 20:53:46< AI0867> mattsc: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?p=551446#p551446
20130412 20:55:28< mattsc> AI0867: cool, thanks.  I'll use that for test cases.
20130412 20:55:51< AI0867> also, fred complained about an evaluation taking too long at some point
20130412 20:56:21< mattsc> I'll reply to the post anyway so that others who don't come by here are aware of this not being a release (releasable) version.
20130412 20:56:48< mattsc> Ok, thanks.  I think a lot of things have gotten faster, but not everything yet.
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20130412 21:34:22< irker438> AI-Demos: mattsc master * r74650c5 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Fred: add stop_unit CA - http://git.io/9SURww
20130412 21:34:23< irker438> When Fred is done with his CAs, take remaining moves and attacks away
20130412 21:34:23< irker438> from units, so that the RCA AI doesn't do anything stupid with them
20130412 21:34:24< irker438> (except once Fred is so strong that we go into full offensive mode,
20130412 21:34:24< irker438> which is mostly executed by the RCA AI).
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