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13:22:53-!- iwaim [~iwaim@2001:2c0:40e:2002:0:4:14:80] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130418 13:27:26< irker689> wesnoth-umc-dev: mrdarkunknown * r18105 /trunk/World_of_Wesnoth/ (50 files in 10 dirs): 20130418 13:27:27< irker689> wesnoth-umc-dev: Made Wizard's and Cleric's skill up to level 7 work. 20130418 13:44:00-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: bumbadadabum] 20130418 14:39:37-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130418 15:10:07-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: bumbadadabum] 20130418 15:10:35-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130418 15:12:04-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130418 15:30:40-!- mattsc [~mattsc@71-19-182-26.dedicated.allstream.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130418 16:27:31-!- irker689 [~irker@ai0867.net] has quit [Quit: transmission 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[~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/pydsigner] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20130418 20:10:57< irker115> wesnoth-umc-dev: bumbadadabum * r18106 /trunk/Era_of_Chaos/ (4 files in 4 dirs): 20130418 20:10:57< irker115> wesnoth-umc-dev: EoC: added the Spearman to the Wild Humans 20130418 20:26:08-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has quit [Quit: noy] 20130418 20:46:30-!- noy [~Noy@wesnoth/developer/noy] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130418 21:41:55-!- ancestral [~ancestral@67-6-53-117.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20130418 22:03:54-!- mattsc [~mattsc@fw.hia.nrc.ca] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130418 22:19:51< skyfaller> mattsc: I just gave Fred 125 gold and +1 income and he murdered my Loyalists w/ bowman leader, I was surprised... I must be rusty 20130418 22:20:11< bumbadadabum> Fred=god 20130418 22:20:32< mattsc> skyfaller: you must be really rusty. ;) 20130418 22:20:53< mattsc> Or Fred got lucky ... 20130418 22:23:18< skyfaller> uh oh, I just got Lua errors and Fred didn't move 20130418 22:24:28< mattsc> Can you pastebin them? 20130418 22:24:53< mattsc> He didn't move for one turn, or not at all? 20130418 22:24:54< skyfaller> I can't figure out how to copy the errors, I wasn't running Wesnoth from the terminal... I'll upload a screenshot 20130418 22:25:03< mattsc> thanks 20130418 22:25:07< skyfaller> erm, he didn't move this turn, I haven't tried other turns yet 20130418 22:25:36< mattsc> Often, when you get a lua error it disables the AI for the rest of the turn, but then you're back to normal the next turn 20130418 22:25:51< skyfaller> well, there's no point in continuing the game, he'll lose now :P 20130418 22:26:01< skyfaller> http://imgur.com/6RSxfv6 20130418 22:26:14< mattsc> Right. I'm not going to say it's good, just trying to figure out what might have gone wrong. 20130418 22:26:36< skyfaller> yeah, he didn't move the next turn either, more errors 20130418 22:26:37< mattsc> So could you see if he plays the next turn, even if it's pointless from the playing perspective. 20130418 22:27:00< skyfaller> looks like the same exact error 20130418 22:27:44< skyfaller> maybe the error was triggered by my trapping a unit, the archer? 20130418 22:28:22< mattsc> because he has no hex to move to, maybe... 20130418 22:28:25< skyfaller> you can kind of see in the screenshot that there is an archer surrounded by a ghoul, ghost and skeleton 20130418 22:28:37< skyfaller> but he could theoretically move one hex to the mountain once the troll leaves 20130418 22:28:57< skyfaller> and that is what I would do if I were Fred 20130418 22:30:02< skyfaller> do you want me to send you the autosave? 20130418 22:30:15< mattsc> yeah, me too. 20130418 22:30:25< mattsc> Yes, that would be great! 20130418 22:31:10< mattsc> Oh, that's in Alarantalara's code. So we'll blame it on him! :) 20130418 22:31:10< skyfaller> alright, how should I send it? 20130418 22:31:28< mattsc> Forum PM is probably easiest. 20130418 22:31:31< skyfaller> ok 20130418 22:32:49< mattsc> My guess is that it's some special situation of moving the unit itself and moving the units blocking the path out of the way. 20130418 22:33:10< mattsc> I'll look into it, hopefully tonight. Right now I am theoretically supposed to be working ... 20130418 22:34:49< skyfaller> I guess this could have been a bug report on Github 20130418 22:35:30< skyfaller> but since Github doesn't allow file uploads it's a pain in the butt to upload the files elsewhere 20130418 22:35:46< skyfaller> I'll send this to Alarantalara as well? 20130418 22:35:54< mattsc> We don't need to take the official route, this is just fine. 20130418 22:36:22< mattsc> Yeah, copy him too, since it's his code. Tell him that I'll have a look unless he wants to do it. 20130418 22:37:32-!- ancestral [~ancestral@67-6-53-117.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130418 22:37:44< skyfaller> ok, you've got mail! 20130418 22:38:08< mattsc> Woohoo! 20130418 22:38:26< mattsc> Thanks! 20130418 22:46:16< mattsc> skyfaller: it's something more than just the archer's way being blocked. 20130418 22:46:34< skyfaller> what do you think it is? 20130418 22:46:46< mattsc> I gradually moved more and more units out of the way until the archer could in fact reach the village, but the error persists. 20130418 22:46:53< skyfaller> :( 20130418 22:47:10< mattsc> I don't know, I'll have to do some more serious debugging (for which I don't have time right now) 20130418 22:47:16< skyfaller> no worries 20130418 22:47:46< skyfaller> it's a shame, Fred was doing quite well in the first game, although I kind of defeated myself by being cocky 20130418 22:47:53< irker115> wesnoth-umc-dev: bumbadadabum * r18107 /trunk/Era_of_Chaos/ (changelog.txt units/dwarves/Commander.cfg): 20130418 22:47:54< irker115> wesnoth-umc-dev: EoC: fixed the Dwarvish Commander being level 1 20130418 22:48:06< mattsc> Most likely the fix is easy, just some sort of situation we didn't think of, but since it originates in a block of code that I didn't write, I need to dig in a little. 20130418 22:48:15< skyfaller> got it 20130418 22:48:25< mattsc> Hehe, being cocky is a deadly sin in Wesnoth. 20130418 22:48:35< skyfaller> it seems that way! 20130418 22:48:47< mattsc> Although not often against an AI with roughly equal gold, so Fred must be doing something right 20130418 22:48:47< skyfaller> I have to work on impulse control... that's what kills me in poker too 20130418 22:48:53< mattsc> at least occasionally. 20130418 22:49:19< bumbadadabum> skyfaller: not risking anything is what usually kills me in poker :p 20130418 22:49:23< mattsc> Yeah, usually when I lose a game (SP scenario), it's because I switch to offensive play a couple turns too early. 20130418 22:50:13< skyfaller> bumbadadabum: like everything else in life, it's a happy medium. I was ranked 5th in a poker tournament today, but then I kept on gambling instead of holding onto my chips until the end and lost it all 20130418 22:50:33< skyfaller> when you have all of the chips, that's a good time to take it easy :P 20130418 22:51:32< skyfaller> mattsc: what happened was I tried to hold the line at night on the right, and sent my leader left to hold the left instead of recruiting. Without reinforcements the right collapsed, and I didn't have enough shields to get my leader back to base on the left 20130418 22:52:03< mattsc> skyfaller: I see 20130418 22:52:52< skyfaller> if I just retreated from my villages at night and took them back at day I wouldn't have had trouble, I got greedy 20130418 22:57:31< mattsc> skyfaller: since this error happens in a part of Lua code that is included from a file, you should be able to continue that game once it's fixed. 20130418 22:57:46< skyfaller> ah, ok :) 20130418 22:58:02< mattsc> as in, without having to fix the save, just by reloading. 20130418 22:58:15< skyfaller> ah, nifty 20130418 23:07:03-!- ancestral [~ancestral@67-6-53-117.mpls.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: i go nstuf kthxbai] 20130418 23:44:59-!- bumbadadabum [~bumbadada@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: bumbadadabum] 20130418 23:46:04-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-umc-dev 20130418 23:47:00-!- zookeeper [~lmsnie@wesnoth/developer/zookeeper] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] --- Log closed Fri Apr 19 00:00:30 2013