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20130429 06:21:34< skyfaller> mattsc: I'm glad my suggestion fixed at least a couple of Fred's problems  :)
20130429 06:25:53< mattsc> skyfaller: Same here.  As I said, there's always something useful coming out of our chats.
20130429 06:29:17< skyfaller> now if only I could come up with a simple formula that would solve the 10 grunts vs. 5 grunts problem
20130429 06:29:48< mattsc> skyfaller: if you do, let me know.  But for tonight, I'm off...
20130429 06:29:56< skyfaller> ok, have a good one!
20130429 06:30:01< mattsc> you too
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20130429 15:52:37< irker600> AI-Demos: mattsc master * r9d4a985 / lua/grunt-rush-Freelands-S1_engine.lua : Fred zone attack: introduce enemy_worth parameter - http://git.io/BWoIMg
20130429 15:52:39< irker600> Multiplicative parameter that determines how much more valuable we
20130429 15:52:40< irker600> consider the enemy units than the AI units in counter attack damage
20130429 15:52:41< irker600> calculations.  Defaults to 1 for normal units, 5 for enemy leader.
20130429 15:54:06< skyfaller> mattsc: what if the enemy unit is clearly less valuable than the AI unit, for instance if you have a grunt and the enemy has a zombie?
20130429 15:54:54< mattsc> skyfaller: this is a multiplicative factor on top of that.  Similar to aggression for the RCA.
20130429 15:55:06< skyfaller> ah, I see
20130429 15:55:15< mattsc> But only applied to the counter attack calc (for the time being at least)
20130429 15:55:34< mattsc> I want to be able to tell Fred that in certain situations he needs to be more aggressive.
20130429 15:55:50< skyfaller> are there other things that might change the enemy's worth factor besides being a leader?
20130429 15:56:14< mattsc> Being a threat to the AI leader (which is going to be my next commit :) )
20130429 15:56:20< skyfaller> ah :)
20130429 15:56:54< mattsc> There might be others, I don't know yet.
20130429 15:56:59< skyfaller> one thing I notice you haven't added yet was my suggestion to include XP in the worth calculation... do you think it's a bad idea for some reason, or just haven't gotten around to it yet?
20130429 16:00:59< irker600> AI-Demos: mattsc master * r757c09e / lua/grunt-rush-Freelands-S1_engine.lua : Fred leader threat zone: use enemy_worth=2 - http://git.io/HAjLlw
20130429 16:01:01< irker600> Any unit threatening the leader should be attacked with higher than
20130429 16:01:02< irker600> default aggression.
20130429 16:01:11< mattsc> skyfaller: TBH, I'd forgotten.
20130429 16:01:46< mattsc> I am using it in the general attack rating already (before you said anything), so I definitely think it's a good idea.
20130429 16:02:03< skyfaller> ok :)
20130429 16:02:11< skyfaller> what line is that at again?
20130429 16:04:06< skyfaller> I think it's worth multiplying the percentage of XP to the next level times the increase in unit cost at the next level... otherwise you'll undervalue units that are about to level
20130429 16:04:11< mattsc> skyfaller: https://github.com/mattsc/Wesnoth-AI-Demos/blob/master/lua/battle_calcs.lua#L850
20130429 16:04:44< mattsc> You'll probably tell me that this isn't exact enough  ;)
20130429 16:04:56< skyfaller> that's assuming that pricing of higher level units is accurate, which I'm not confident about since ladder games aren't played with the ability to buy higher level units
20130429 16:05:37< mattsc> See...  :D
20130429 16:05:44< skyfaller> hahaha
20130429 16:06:08< mattsc> Actually, no it doesn't.
20130429 16:06:23< skyfaller> no what doesn't?
20130429 16:06:23< mattsc> It assume that the level 2 unit is worth twice as much as the level 1 unit.
20130429 16:06:35< skyfaller> oh!
20130429 16:06:36< skyfaller> hm.
20130429 16:06:54< mattsc> It falls under: good enough for now, we have bigger problems.
20130429 16:07:12< mattsc> I also just noticed hat, mathematically, that equation is stupid can be simplified significantly  :P
20130429 16:08:20< skyfaller> wait, where in the equation you currently have does it include the level of the unit?
20130429 16:08:43< skyfaller> oh, never mind
20130429 16:08:45< skyfaller> I'm slow
20130429 16:09:01< skyfaller> it's the very next chunk of code
20130429 16:09:07< mattsc> :)
20130429 16:09:10< irker600> AI-Demos: mattsc master * r47bd8cd / lua/battle_calcs.lua : battle_calcs: simplify unnecessarily complicated equations - http://git.io/pB4M8A
20130429 16:09:30< skyfaller> hahaha that is simpler
20130429 16:09:42< mattsc> And mathematically the same...
20130429 16:09:46< skyfaller> :)
20130429 16:09:47< mattsc> Well, nice chatting to you briefly.  I have to head to work now.
20130429 16:09:52< skyfaller> ok, have fun!
20130429 16:09:56< mattsc> you too.
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20130429 21:36:49< irker600> AI-Demos: mattsc master * rac0ea8a / lua/grunt-rush-Freelands-S1_engine.lua : Fred zone attack: take XP into account for counter attack evaluation - http://git.io/l5j2dQ
20130429 21:36:51< irker600> AI-Demos: mattsc master * r3226ea9 / lua/ai_helper.lua : ai_helper.get_attack_combos: bug fix: a hex does not count as blocked by the attacker unit itself - http://git.io/U34inw
20130429 21:36:53< irker600> This takes care of the case when a unit has no moves but attacks left,
20130429 21:36:54< irker600> which was previously excluded.
20130429 21:36:59< irker600> AI-Demos: mattsc master * r115e8ee / lua/grunt-rush-Freelands-S1_engine.lua : Fred zone attack: include units that have no moves but attacks left in attack evaluations - http://git.io/ND_Oig
20130429 21:37:01< irker600> Previously that was excluded because units with no moves were used for
20130429 21:37:02< irker600> a non-attack move already and therefore likely should not attack.  But
20130429 21:37:03< irker600> there are exceptions.
20130429 21:37:09< irker600> AI-Demos: mattsc master * r23edec6 / lua/grunt-rush-Freelands-S1_engine.lua : Fred zone attack: counter attack calculation does not make sense for units with MP=0 - http://git.io/K75F6A
20130429 21:37:11< irker600> ... since they cannot move away anyway.
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