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20130412 04:11:52< Gambit> shadowm: I'm sad
20130412 04:11:58< Gambit> I just found out freenode is full of buttcoin channels.
20130412 04:12:13< Gambit> And I can't go troll the buttcoin losers because I have a reputation here and I have to behave.
20130412 04:15:54< Gambit> buttcoins are massively crashing right now; it's hilarious
20130412 04:17:52< Gambit> Currency of the future! http://i.imgur.com/6ptfPLQ.jpg
20130412 04:17:54< Gambit> lol
20130412 04:25:02< blarumyrran> web is a lot bigger & more monetized now than it ever was before
20130412 04:25:12< blarumyrran> is your comparison meant to say that bitcoin is going to become huge?
20130412 04:26:17< Gambit> No.
20130412 04:26:24< blarumyrran> then what is it meant to say
20130412 04:26:45< Gambit> That bitcoin is highly unstable contrary to what the libertarian children who dreamt it up would have us beleive.
20130412 04:27:13< blarumyrran> i mean, what is the comparison meant to say
20130412 04:27:25< Gambit> Oh I was just making fun of the bubble that's popping right now.
20130412 04:27:36< Gambit> They traded it up to absurd value.
20130412 04:27:56< Gambit> And thought it would just keep going up forever.
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20130412 04:30:21< blarumyrran> i dont know very much about it, but i got the impression that bitcoin never made it out of the "novelty" phase, where people buy it because its fun
20130412 04:30:49< blarumyrran> not for some economic interests
20130412 04:31:17< Gambit> yeah there aren't many retailers that accept it at all right now
20130412 04:31:28< Gambit> mainly because of the instability
20130412 04:31:39< Gambit> but libertarians have convinced themselves it's going to replace fiat currency
20130412 04:32:02< Gambit> Meanwhile it costs their parent's more on the electricity bill to mine them than they ever theoretically make.
20130412 04:32:24< Gambit> Not to mention the cost of replacing your GPU(s) every few months
20130412 04:32:38< blarumyrran> whats bad about it plummeting, if its just for fun?
20130412 04:33:00< Gambit> blarumyrran: People were buying buttcoins for $200 USD each
20130412 04:33:14< Gambit> less than 24 hours ago that was considered their value in USD
20130412 04:33:19< Gambit> now it's at around $60
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20130412 04:33:21< blarumyrran> well
20130412 04:33:32< Gambit> and dropping still
20130412 04:33:37< blarumyrran> the value of a single bitcoin really tells me nothing considering its not a very discrete thing
20130412 04:34:37< blarumyrran> yeah and whats so terrible about it? reading you and reddit its like the end of the world
20130412 04:35:00< Gambit> I don't think it's terrible. I think it's hilarious.
20130412 04:35:28< blarumyrran> isnt that a good thing then? if people buy bitcoins for fun, and the result is "hilarious", then mission complete
20130412 04:36:03< Gambit> they don't think it's for fun
20130412 04:36:08< Gambit> they think they can replace fiat currencies
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20130412 07:53:44< Ivanovic> esr: what is the current status of the git fixes?
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20130412 08:05:27< esr> Ivanovic: I had a graphics-card upgrade go badly wrong on Monday.  Recovering ate my week.  '
20130412 08:06:16< esr> Ivanovic: Now back to operating, with two 27-inch 2560x1440 monitors.
20130412 08:06:48< esr> Ivanovic: I expect to be able to finish this weekend, or maybe early next week.
20130412 08:07:01< Ivanovic> okay
20130412 08:07:12< zookeeper> so how many 80-or-so-char terminals can you fit on those at once? :>
20130412 08:10:34< esr> zookeeper: One of them is the browser screen - basically all the time.  The other can fit three 94x77 terminals.  But my standard layout is one terminal, one irssi running, and one Emacs window.
20130412 08:12:01< shadowm> esr: Why aren't you in #wesnoth-dev? Also, did you get the information you needed from Gambit?
20130412 08:12:59< esr> zookeeper: Am using the i3 window manager, which is a tiling wm.  No background graphics, minimal decorations, and except fir a few special popup cases no overlapping windows.  It's all working surface all the time.
20130412 08:13:52< esr> shadowm: I did.  And oops, that I'm on #wesnoth is a typo.
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20130412 14:55:03< Hulavuta> Hey best friend artisticdude
20130412 14:55:33< artisticdude> Good morning Hulavuta.
20130412 14:55:41< artisticdude> Why the sudden outpouring of affection?
20130412 14:55:48< Hulavuta> We're best friends ._.
20130412 14:56:08< artisticdude> BBF.
20130412 14:56:15< Hulavuta> wat
20130412 14:56:26< artisticdude> Bestest-best friends.
20130412 14:56:37< Hulavuta> Yay
20130412 14:57:26< blarumyrran> He's not even a real person! He's just a bundle of sentences on irc and the forums!
20130412 14:57:55< Hulavuta> He's real to me!
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20130412 15:36:14< Hulavuta> nooo my best friend left
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20130412 18:06:18< blarumyrran> http://imagebin.org/253736 ooh what's this
20130412 18:07:06< celticminstrel> :O
20130412 18:07:29< Hulavuta> Mushroom Farm???
20130412 18:08:57< celticminstrel> ...actually it kinda doesn't quite make sense somehow.
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20130412 18:14:56< bumbadadabum> fighters are actually farms
20130412 18:14:59< bumbadadabum> FAAF
20130412 18:15:32< fendrin> This is a photoshop result, not a screenshot.
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20130412 18:21:24< bumbadadabum> still
20130412 18:21:30< bumbadadabum> fighters are actually farms
20130412 18:22:14< celticminstrel> You're a farm.
20130412 18:24:04< bumbadadabum> Well... Your mom is a farm!
20130412 18:24:06< bumbadadabum> In your face!
20130412 18:24:33< Hulavuta> '_'
20130412 18:25:06< blarumyrran> i once posted a picture on the forums, of humans of Dan Tonk growing in a farm
20130412 18:25:13< blarumyrran> it was deleted :(
20130412 18:25:48< zookeeper> :<
20130412 18:26:00< blarumyrran> yes, unfair
20130412 18:26:45< blarumyrran> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=253744
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20130412 18:51:17< danny_> Hello
20130412 18:51:27< blarumyrran> Hello danny_
20130412 18:51:27< danny_> I have a question regarding WML
20130412 18:51:31< danny_> can anyone help me?
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20130412 18:52:01< danny_> :)
20130412 18:52:02< blarumyrran> probably, granted you wait long enough
20130412 18:52:29< danny_> How would I go about to load another frame above an attack icon?
20130412 18:53:38< celticminstrel> ...what?
20130412 18:53:49< celticminstrel> I don't understand what you mean.
20130412 18:54:25< blarumyrran> i think he means, to draw some arbitrary image on top of the attack icon in the attack dialog
20130412 18:54:38< danny_> yeah exactly 
20130412 18:54:42< celticminstrel> Oh.
20130412 18:54:49< danny_> any idea?
20130412 18:54:53< celticminstrel> I dunno, is it at all possible to customize the attack dialog?
20130412 18:54:59< danny_> yeah
20130412 18:55:03< celticminstrel> I didn't think it was... maybe with Lua, I suppose...
20130412 18:55:09< danny_> data\core\units
20130412 18:55:12< celticminstrel> ?
20130412 18:55:14< danny_> u can open up any unit
20130412 18:55:17< celticminstrel> Um.
20130412 18:55:17< danny_> and customize it
20130412 18:55:30< celticminstrel> That's the unit. Nothing to do with the attack dialog.
20130412 18:55:31< danny_> I can change the attack icons and all
20130412 18:55:39< danny_> oh
20130412 18:55:49< danny_> but thats where the attack icon is defined
20130412 18:55:55< celticminstrel> Yes.
20130412 18:56:05< danny_> [attack_anim]         [filter_attack]             name=staff     [/filter_attack]
20130412 18:56:16< danny_> so if I add another frame in there
20130412 18:56:20< danny_> why wouldn't it display?
20130412 18:56:29< celticminstrel> It's an animation.
20130412 18:56:54< celticminstrel> Are we talking about the dialog that comes up when you attack someone and asks which attack to use?
20130412 18:57:03< danny_> yes
20130412 18:57:04< celticminstrel> Because there are no animations shown there.
20130412 18:57:20< danny_> but I searched the same attack icons that are displayed there and the file on which they are used
20130412 18:57:30< danny_> is in core/units
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20130412 18:57:44< danny_> like I searched staff.png
20130412 18:57:52< celticminstrel> Wait.
20130412 18:57:53< celticminstrel> Wait.
20130412 18:57:57< danny_> ok
20130412 18:58:05< celticminstrel> We're talking about the icon representing an attack?
20130412 18:58:12< danny_> yes
20130412 18:58:15< celticminstrel> Okay.
20130412 18:58:22< celticminstrel> I thought we were talking about the unit's icon.
20130412 18:58:43< danny_> wesnoth-1.10.6\data\core\images\attacks
20130412 18:58:44< celticminstrel> The attack icon isn't defined in [attack_anim].
20130412 18:59:01< danny_> ok
20130412 18:59:09< danny_> but it is loaded from there
20130412 18:59:33< danny_> because if for instance I change axe.png to beak.png
20130412 18:59:38< danny_> it changes the icons displayed
20130412 19:00:09< celticminstrel> Right.
20130412 19:00:15< celticminstrel> So what is it you want to do?
20130412 19:00:30< danny_> I want to draw another icon just exactly above the first icon
20130412 19:00:45< danny_> like another icon above axe.png
20130412 19:01:01< celticminstrel> Meaning...?
20130412 19:01:22< danny_> when the attack dialog displays I want the axe.png to be rendered first
20130412 19:01:31< danny_> and then another icon of my choice such as frame.png
20130412 19:01:36< celticminstrel> And then something else in the same place, on top of it?
20130412 19:01:41< danny_> yeah
20130412 19:01:44< danny_> exactly 
20130412 19:01:46< celticminstrel> Hm.
20130412 19:02:03< celticminstrel> I wonder whether [attack]icon= supports image path functions...
20130412 19:02:46< danny_> I suppose not since I tried 
20130412 19:03:04< celticminstrel> You tried something like axe.png~BLIT(frame.png,0,0)?
20130412 19:03:05< danny_> I mean I tried all sort of weird things in the units/human folder
20130412 19:03:18< danny_> no I just tried rendering another frame
20130412 19:03:29< celticminstrel> What do you mean by that?
20130412 19:03:54< danny_> I am sorry I have to go because I am in my school's lab and another class is going on right now
20130412 19:03:54< zookeeper> you have no idea what you're doing. if you're going around trying this or that, you'll get nowhere.
20130412 19:04:02< danny_> email me if u can at dannys.fit@gmail.com
20130412 19:04:05< celticminstrel> No.
20130412 19:04:08< celticminstrel> Come back later.
20130412 19:04:10< danny_> ok cool
20130412 19:04:12< danny_> I will come back later
20130412 19:04:17< danny_> cya
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20130412 19:04:24< celticminstrel> Email is terrible for this sort of thing anyway.
20130412 19:04:46< celticminstrel> Does the icon parameter support image path functions?
20130412 19:04:48< celticminstrel> Anyone know?
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20130412 19:06:20< zookeeper> i'm pretty sure everything does
20130412 19:06:29< zookeeper> or almost everything
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20130412 19:06:50< celticminstrel> Okay...
20130412 19:07:03< zookeeper> so yes, that'd be the way to do what he wanted
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20130412 19:17:30< Hulavuta> hey artisticdude
20130412 19:17:34< Hulavuta> Got time for a game?
20130412 19:17:41< Hulavuta> I have about 40 minutes or so then I gotta bounce
20130412 19:17:45< bumbadadabum> me
20130412 19:17:46< bumbadadabum> me
20130412 19:17:46< bumbadadabum> me
20130412 19:17:51< Hulavuta> Sure you can come too
20130412 19:19:48< artisticdude> Hulavuta: Sure.
20130412 19:19:52< Hulavuta> Yay
20130412 19:19:54< Hulavuta> Best friend
20130412 19:20:20< artisticdude> What do you want to play?
20130412 19:20:24< artisticdude> 3v3?
20130412 19:20:31< bumbadadabum> Hulavuta: What about JesseH?
20130412 19:20:35< bumbadadabum> isn't he your bff?
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20130412 19:21:08< Hulavuta> pfft no
20130412 19:21:42< Hulavuta> that kid is cray
20130412 19:21:57< Hulavuta> sure let's do 3v3
20130412 19:22:03< bumbadadabum> on...
20130412 19:22:08< bumbadadabum> waterloo sunset
20130412 19:22:38< Hulavuta> k
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20130412 19:22:47< artisticdude> I've been practicing against the AI since last time we played, so hopefully it won't be as terrible this time around. :p
20130412 19:22:57< bumbadadabum> I do that as well
20130412 19:23:06< bumbadadabum> My era is entirely balanced against AI :p
20130412 19:23:22< bumbadadabum> using the logic: If the AI beats me by spamming a single unit, it's OP
20130412 19:24:09< Hulavuta> lol
20130412 19:24:23< Hulavuta> I haven't played since the last time we played.
20130412 19:28:46< bumbadadabum> pass is pizza
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20130412 20:03:07< artisticdude> Hulavuta: Why did you ask me if I had enough time to play if you didn't? :p
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20130412 20:26:49< JesseH> busy busy busy
20130412 20:26:52< JesseH> how is everyone
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20130412 20:32:26< danny_> Hello
20130412 20:32:52< danny_> I was here talking about 1:30 hours ago
20130412 20:33:02< danny_> With someone regarding something I am trying to do
20130412 20:33:25< danny_> celtciminstrel I think it was u
20130412 20:34:41< JesseH> danny_, hello
20130412 20:35:25< danny_> Should I repeat my problem so that anyone else can provide their opinion? 
20130412 20:35:33< JesseH> I can't help :D
20130412 20:35:36< JesseH> but go ahead!
20130412 20:36:33< danny_> I am trying to render the attack icons as defined in core/images/attack
20130412 20:36:47< danny_> on the attack dialog that you choose the weapon of your choice
20130412 20:36:53< danny_> but I want to render these attack icons
20130412 20:37:02< danny_> such that I first render one image
20130412 20:37:07 * JesseH dies.
20130412 20:37:25< danny_> and after that render the attack iconm
20130412 20:37:26< danny_> lol
20130412 20:37:47< danny_> JessH I suppose you are not programmer :)
20130412 20:38:39< _8680_> danny_: Did you try blitting as was suggested?
20130412 20:38:55< danny_> I am sorry I left the irc chat at the time so I didn't saw the message
20130412 20:38:59< danny_> what is blitting?
20130412 20:39:04< zookeeper> your question makes no sense.
20130412 20:39:14< zookeeper> explain what exactly you want to happen
20130412 20:39:28< zookeeper> and in what context
20130412 20:39:40< danny_> on the attack dialog I want to render a frame above the attack weapon
20130412 20:39:49< danny_> like first load frame.png and then axe.png
20130412 20:40:04< zookeeper> you can't, period
20130412 20:40:11< zookeeper> now explain what you're really trying to do
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20130412 20:42:47< Soliton> i guess he wants one image superimposed on another. i.e. combine two images to get the attack icon.
20130412 20:42:54< zookeeper> yeah, i know
20130412 20:42:54< _8680_> danny_: Try `[unit][attack]icon="axe.png~BLIT(frame.png)"`.
20130412 20:43:20< zookeeper> he's just not telling where when how and what units it should apply to
20130412 20:43:27< danny_> the icon doesn't have quotes around it
20130412 20:43:43< _8680_> Correction: `[unit_type][attack]...`
20130412 20:43:56< _8680_> danny_: The quotes won’t hurt.
20130412 20:44:09< danny_> ok cool just making sure we are talking about the same thing :)
20130412 20:44:11< zookeeper> open every attack icon in an image editor and copypaste the other image on top, press save. done.
20130412 20:44:13< danny_> I will try it
20130412 20:44:17< zookeeper> that does what you're asking
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20130412 20:45:35< _8680_> danny_: In case you don’t know, `[unit_type][attack]icon=` means “the icon attribute of the [attack] subtag of the [unit_type] tag”.
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20130412 20:49:11< celticminstrel> If you'd spelled my name correctly I would've known you were back.
20130412 20:49:32< celticminstrel> [Apr 12@1:03:10pm] celticminstrel: You tried something like axe.png~BLIT(frame.png,0,0)?
20130412 20:49:38< celticminstrel> ^That's almost certainly what you want.
20130412 20:50:04< celticminstrel> 8680 omitted the 0's. I'm not sure whether or not that actually works.
20130412 20:50:35< celticminstrel> So if what 8680 said fails, try it with the 0's.
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20130412 21:16:06< badola> hi all,
20130412 21:16:27< badola> i am wondering if I would get some help on the topic "Improve Multiplayer Campaign Support"
20130412 21:16:35< badola> for the GSoC this year.
20130412 21:19:01< Unnheulu> badola, Might want to ask in #wesnoth-dev ;)
20130412 21:19:24< badola> thanks... will I find Crab_ there..?
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20130412 21:31:36< _8680_> 2013-04-12  18:50:12  <celticminstrel> 8680 omitted the 0's. I'm not sure whether or not that actually works.
20130412 21:31:39< _8680_> It should work. According to the wiki, the coordinates default to (0,0) [http://wiki.wesnoth.org/ImagePathFunctionWML#Blit_Function].
20130412 21:33:02< celticminstrel> I didn't look at it in detail. <_< Oops?
20130412 21:33:14< celticminstrel> I just glanced at it to determine the correct name.
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20130412 23:09:59< janebot> Twitter: @Wesnoth: #Wesnoth needs your support! Vote us for SourceForge's next Project of the Month! http://t.co/uIjekZ285N [ Apr-12-2013 21:08 ] [ http://tinyurl.com/btyhmbk ]
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