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20130425 01:04:50< siddh> hello
20130425 01:05:01< siddh> anyone wanna help out with this custom scenario creation?
20130425 01:05:15< celticminstrel> Probably not, but depends what kind of help you want.
20130425 01:05:42< siddh> well I already made a map, followed the insstructions from wesntoh wiki
20130425 01:05:50< siddh> and the map works inthe raw format
20130425 01:05:58< siddh> but when i create a custom folder in userdata/data/ 
20130425 01:05:59< celticminstrel> The map is the easy part...
20130425 01:06:05< siddh> and place in there thwe _main.cfg
20130425 01:06:11< siddh> and create folder for scenarios and maps
20130425 01:06:15< siddh> and so on 
20130425 01:06:22< siddh> but it doesnt show up in the list when I create a game
20130425 01:06:35< siddh> so do I have to install the add-on first to make it work through that route? or should it work by default
20130425 01:06:36< celticminstrel> Did you restart Wesnoth after doing all that?
20130425 01:06:39< siddh> yeah
20130425 01:06:57< celticminstrel> Are you sure you put it in the right place?
20130425 01:07:03< siddh> yeah
20130425 01:07:10< Captain_Wrathbow> userdata/data/add-ons/
20130425 01:07:11< siddh> pretty sure anyway
20130425 01:07:14< siddh> yeah
20130425 01:07:19< Captain_Wrathbow> you said userdata/data/
20130425 01:07:46< siddh> well it's in  C:\wesnoth\userdata\data\add-ons\
20130425 01:07:51< siddh> where I created folder Siddmap\ 
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20130425 01:07:59< Captain_Wrathbow> yeah that sounds right
20130425 01:08:04< Captain_Wrathbow> the location at least
20130425 01:08:05< siddh> inwhich there is _main.cfg and folders maps\ and scenarios\
20130425 01:08:19< Captain_Wrathbow> It would be hard to tell what else is wrong without seeing your WML
20130425 01:08:21< celticminstrel> Windows stores the userdata in the application folder? That seems silly.
20130425 01:08:22< siddh> maps contains 2pTreulos.map (changed the .map from blank)
20130425 01:08:29< celticminstrel> Try pastebinning your _main.cfg
20130425 01:08:46< siddh> It's so short that I'll just paste it here
20130425 01:08:52< siddh> #ifdef MULTIPLAYER     {~add-ons/Siddmap/maps}     {~add-ons/Siddmap/scenarios/2p_Treulos.cfg} #endif
20130425 01:08:59< celticminstrel> No.
20130425 01:09:05< Captain_Wrathbow> Pastebin is better.
20130425 01:09:10< siddh> ops I had not changed the _ there
20130425 01:09:18< siddh> gonna check if that fixes it brb
20130425 01:09:24< celticminstrel> Okay, pastebin the 2p_Treulos.cfg
20130425 01:09:35< celticminstrel> If that doesn't fix it, that is.
20130425 01:10:05< siddh> yeah I had the map named as 2p_Treulos at first, so I tried changing them without the _ , but forgot that part. hope it was the only problem D;
20130425 01:10:12< celticminstrel> Also, you don't need {!add-ons/Siddmap/maps}
20130425 01:10:19< celticminstrel> ^~
20130425 01:10:22< celticminstrel> It will do nothing.
20130425 01:10:32< siddh> yeah it was in the instruction
20130425 01:10:39< celticminstrel> Or at least nothing useful.
20130425 01:10:56< siddh> kk that didnt work 
20130425 01:11:02< siddh> I'll paste bin the scenario.cfg
20130425 01:11:25< celticminstrel> Also, is your map file a TXT file or a MAP file?
20130425 01:13:14< siddh> http://pastebin.com/DnK0qiRG
20130425 01:13:21< siddh> map file
20130425 01:13:33< celticminstrel> ...we don't care about the map file. :/
20130425 01:13:45< celticminstrel> ...which that isn't, anyway.
20130425 01:14:11< celticminstrel> Check that your map file is really a .map.
20130425 01:14:19< siddh> yeah it is
20130425 01:14:35< celticminstrel> Do you have file extensions visible?
20130425 01:14:37< siddh> I know where you're going at
20130425 01:14:54< siddh> it's not the problem if I remove the extension the description becomes "file" and if I add the .map it becomes "Map file"
20130425 01:15:01< celticminstrel> Okay, so it doesn't have a hidden extension, good.
20130425 01:15:49< celticminstrel> Well, I'm not seeing anything wrong there.
20130425 01:16:09< siddh> There's no error or anything, it just wont show up in the list of maps when creating a game 
20130425 01:17:28< siddh> and yes I checked the list carefully that it's really not there xd
20130425 01:17:46< celticminstrel> Heh.
20130425 01:18:09< celticminstrel> I forget whether the list is sorted.
20130425 01:18:46< siddh> anyway
20130425 01:18:51< siddh> do Ihave to "install" the add-on somehow?
20130425 01:18:58< celticminstrel> No.
20130425 01:19:09< celticminstrel> Simply being in that folder is sufficient.
20130425 01:19:18< siddh> well I'll be damned
20130425 01:19:21< siddh> xd
20130425 01:19:30< celticminstrel> ?
20130425 01:19:44< siddh> I dont know what it is
20130425 01:19:51< siddh> could this have something to do with userdata and data folders?
20130425 01:20:13< siddh> because for an example when I check \data\multiplayer it has all kinds of multiplayer maps
20130425 01:20:52< siddh> and I'm thinking that when you copy an add-on
20130425 01:20:55< siddh> itm oves the maps to there as well
20130425 01:21:02< siddh> and since I Created the folder manually
20130425 01:21:03< celticminstrel> Have you installed any add-ons?
20130425 01:21:05< siddh> it didnt do the copying
20130425 01:21:12< siddh> yeah
20130425 01:21:17< siddh> but they work
20130425 01:21:29< celticminstrel> Which folder did you manually create?
20130425 01:21:29< siddh> and this map doesnt
20130425 01:21:42< siddh> "Siddmap" 
20130425 01:21:54< siddh> and "maps" and "scenarios" which are contained in the \Siddmap folder
20130425 01:21:55< celticminstrel> Okay, so the rest already existed, and you can see the other add-on folders there?
20130425 01:22:02< siddh> yes
20130425 01:22:16< celticminstrel> So you're putting it in the right place.
20130425 01:22:58< celticminstrel> Do you still have  {~add-ons/Siddmap/maps} in _main.cfg? See if removing it does anything.
20130425 01:23:36< siddh> are you how familiar with this stuff?
20130425 01:24:11< siddh> for an example are you sure it cant be that 
20130425 01:24:11< siddh> the scenario should be copied in teh wesnoth\data <-- section as well?
20130425 01:24:12< siddh> *should not
20130425 01:24:12< celticminstrel> I've made some add-ons.
20130425 01:24:19< siddh> yes
20130425 01:24:24< siddh> but
20130425 01:24:31< siddh> are you sure about that?
20130425 01:24:39< siddh> coz for an example if I do this
20130425 01:24:41< siddh> add the publish file
20130425 01:24:48< siddh> maybe it changes things
20130425 01:26:43< celticminstrel> No it shouldn't...
20130425 01:26:52< celticminstrel> Be copied, I mean.
20130425 01:27:02< siddh> but how come those other files got copied?
20130425 01:27:09< celticminstrel> The publish file isn't necessary, I think.
20130425 01:27:13< siddh> was it for fun and trivial pleasure? Xd
20130425 01:27:25< celticminstrel> I guess?
20130425 01:27:32< celticminstrel> What are you asking?
20130425 01:27:37< siddh> It's the most logical explanatioN I can see: I got add-ons which got fiels copied to wesnoth\data
20130425 01:27:48< siddh> I got this custom add-on: I don't have files copied to wesnoth\data
20130425 01:28:02< siddh> and this custom add-on doesnt work and the other ones do
20130425 01:28:05< siddh> but i dont know
20130425 01:30:58< siddh> well that IS the problem
20130425 01:31:05< siddh> since I copied it to wesnoth\data\ it shows up
20130425 01:31:08< siddh> the name doesnt show up though
20130425 01:32:08< siddh> but it shows up as a blank line
20130425 01:32:11< celticminstrel> ...what?
20130425 01:32:31< celticminstrel> I thought you said the other ones were in userdata/data.
20130425 01:32:36< celticminstrel> The other custom ones.
20130425 01:33:15< siddh> well I took the scenario.cfg from my folder
20130425 01:33:15< siddh> and put it into
20130425 01:33:15< siddh> wesnoth\data\multiplayer\scenarios
20130425 01:33:15< siddh> so when I start a network game the map shows up on the list
20130425 01:33:15< siddh> but the name doesnt work, it's a blank line. However it shows the correct map and shows the description with moseover
20130425 01:33:42< siddh> well I didnt say so but anyway
20130425 01:33:52< celticminstrel> ...yeah, don't put it there.
20130425 01:34:32< siddh> but it works
20130425 01:35:12< celticminstrel> It's not the right way to do it.
20130425 01:35:21< siddh> yeah but what is the right way?
20130425 01:35:27< siddh> I followed the instructions online, they didnt work
20130425 01:36:13< siddh> anyhow I jsut moved the screnario.cfg
20130425 01:36:25< siddh> it still gets the .map file from teh add-ons\Siddmap\maps
20130425 01:36:49< siddh> so I'm guessing when you make a custom add-on, it copies the scenario.cfg to wesnoth\data\multiplayer\scenarios at some point 
20130425 01:36:49< celticminstrel> ...oh. Replace "~add-ons/Siddmap/" in both files with "./"
20130425 01:37:17< celticminstrel> It doesn't copy the file there.
20130425 01:37:25< siddh> but how come those other maps are copied there?
20130425 01:37:54< siddh> But anyway I'll do what u said and let's see if it works
20130425 01:37:57< celticminstrel> Those are the built-in maps.
20130425 01:38:16< siddh> so 
20130425 01:38:33< siddh>     {~add-ons/Siddmap/scenarios/2pTreulos.cfg} should be  {~./scenarios/2pTreulos.cfg} 
20130425 01:38:38< siddh> in the _main.cfg?
20130425 01:39:44< celticminstrel> Yes, and the same for your .map in the 2pTreulos.cfg.
20130425 01:39:58< celticminstrel> Wait, take out the ~ as well
20130425 01:40:03< siddh> alright let's see if that works
20130425 01:41:41< siddh> now there's an error
20130425 01:42:12< siddh> it says it cant find the file
20130425 01:42:34< siddh> so I think now the path doesnt work with ./ now
20130425 01:43:54< siddh> hmm let's see
20130425 01:44:08< celticminstrel> You did take out the ~, right?
20130425 01:44:57< siddh> yeah
20130425 01:46:15< siddh> but anyway
20130425 01:46:16< siddh> it said that it cant find the .map file
20130425 01:46:16< siddh> which is specified in the _main.cfg file
20130425 01:46:16< siddh> which kind of tells me that the line for the scenario.cfg with the ./ works
20130425 01:46:16< siddh> bu the one for the map files doesnt so
20130425 01:46:16< siddh> I tried changing the scenario back
20130425 01:47:30< siddh> now there's no error
20130425 01:47:33< siddh> but the map still wont show up
20130425 01:48:22< siddh> I think it's not the path 
20130425 01:48:37< siddh> I think some kind of specification is needed 
20130425 01:48:44< siddh> so that it brings up hte map with the other multiplayer maps
20130425 01:49:03< celticminstrel> You shouldn't need to specify the maps in the _main.cfg.
20130425 01:49:32< celticminstrel> Try removing it and changing the other two paths to use ./
20130425 01:49:48< siddh> but the online instruction said to use the main cfg
20130425 01:49:54< siddh> also if I publish this and later want to add other maps
20130425 01:50:12< siddh> can I still make it work without _main.cfg?
20130425 01:51:49< siddh> I'll just try and copy this stuff from some other file
20130425 01:53:20< siddh> and also im changing the file name format back to 2p_
20130425 01:59:06< celticminstrel> I don't think you can do it without the main cfg.
20130425 01:59:32< celticminstrel> {~./scenarios/2pTreulos.cfg} should be the only line in _main.cfg that doesn't begin with #
20130425 02:03:26< siddh> hmm I changed the map name format adn now I got different error
20130425 02:04:01< siddh> unexpected characters after variabe name (expected , or =), value ' 
20130425 02:05:19< celticminstrel> Where is the error?
20130425 02:05:34< siddh> ahh nevermind that wasnt it
20130425 02:06:57< siddh> there should be a package that contains _main.cfg 
20130425 02:06:59< siddh> scenarios
20130425 02:07:01< siddh> and maps
20130425 02:07:09< siddh> I'm so tired of this
20130425 02:07:21< siddh> anyway that error was because I tried adding the .map file into the main.cfg
20130425 02:07:32< siddh> so it was unnecessary
20130425 02:07:48< siddh> but is of zero help to find that out 
20130425 02:13:46< siddh> clearly the files have to work to some degree when they report errors if I mispell something
20130425 02:15:35< celticminstrel> If you got any errors whatsoever in your scenario cfg, you're probably doing something right.
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20130425 02:16:38< siddh> ok it does work now
20130425 02:17:18< celticminstrel> Yay!
20130425 02:17:40< siddh> And it was my bad it WAS in teh list of maps but the name didnt display and it was the last map so I didnt notice it as a blank line. :(
20130425 02:18:05< siddh> it was because I had the name as "2p - Treulos" and when I looked up some other scenario.cfg
20130425 02:18:09< siddh> they had this different symbol there
20130425 02:18:19< siddh> and so I figured it out. sorry :D
20130425 02:18:42< siddh> should've rang a bell at the point when i noticed the blank line from wesnoth\data
20130425 02:18:59< Captain_Wrathbow> What do you mean by "this different symbol"?
20130425 02:19:10< Captain_Wrathbow> I.E. what exactly did you finally change that made it work?
20130425 02:19:12< siddh> —
20130425 02:19:20< siddh> replaced - with —
20130425 02:19:42 * Captain_Wrathbow raises one eyebrow in confusion
20130425 02:19:49< Captain_Wrathbow> That seems strange.
20130425 02:20:03< siddh> yeah anyway im sorry for taking your time but Im also very glad it works properly now
20130425 02:20:14< siddh> next step is making a publish thing
20130425 02:20:17< celticminstrel> That's not strange.
20130425 02:20:22< celticminstrel> It's an encoding mismatch.
20130425 02:20:23< siddh> teh map's pretty good anyway :D
20130425 02:20:35< celticminstrel> The file wasn't in the encoding that Wesnoth expected it to be in, or something.
20130425 02:20:57< celticminstrel> Are you editing in Notepad?
20130425 02:21:05< siddh> wordpad
20130425 02:23:04< siddh> hmm so 
20130425 02:23:13< siddh> I've actually done this publish hting once like
20130425 02:23:19< siddh> 2 years ago but I just dont remember anything :D
20130425 02:23:36< siddh> if I got this folder \Siddmap\ with the scenario, and maps folder
20130425 02:23:46< siddh> is it possible to just add the publish file to make it work?
20130425 02:33:06< siddh> let's see if it works
20130425 02:34:44< celticminstrel> Just add the publish file and you can upload it from the add-on manager.
20130425 02:35:57< siddh> kk I just tried that 
20130425 02:36:03< siddh> but it says "network communication error"
20130425 02:36:11< siddh> could it be that the addon server has a problem
20130425 02:36:23< siddh> or that I have somethingthat prevents upload to the addon server?
20130425 02:38:17< siddh> remember those times when things just went smoothly? XD
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20130425 03:47:43< siddh> anyone know what this network communication error is ?:D
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20130425 03:53:42< siddh> anyone here?
20130425 03:54:27< _8680_> siddh: Try asking in the WML Workshop section of the forums [http://forums.wesnoth.org].
20130425 03:54:57< siddh> hmm I got this question right now: are passphrases for publishing user specific or upload specific?
20130425 03:56:59< _8680_> siddh: Add-on specific.
20130425 03:57:13< siddh> kk
20130425 04:05:21< siddh> I checked teh forums for other people with same issues
20130425 04:05:33< siddh> one guy had some mistake in his .pbl  file, and the other still had apparently the case unresolved
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20130425 09:40:48< blarumyrran> not sure if andersonsappington is a human spammer or just a very strange person
20130425 09:43:28< zookeeper> i've been wondering the same thing.
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20130425 12:43:23< blarumyrran> Hello siddh!
20130425 12:44:56< siddh> I got this error when publishing a map, says "network connection error" any idea what might be causing that? :D
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20130425 13:36:42< Glun> Greetings!
20130425 13:36:51< blarumyrran> Hello Glun!
20130425 13:37:48< Glun> Hi! Who do I poke about Google Summer of Code project participation stuff?
20130425 13:40:05< blarumyrran> probably #wesnoth-dev , and ivanovic
20130425 13:40:28< Glun> Thank you muchly
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20130425 20:36:47< siddh> hmm
20130425 20:37:04< siddh> Does anyone know what might cause "network connection error" when trying to upload an add-on ?
20130425 20:44:40< loonycyborg> Look at stderr, there should be more useful message :P
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20130425 22:03:02< siddh> hi
20130425 22:03:05< siddh> where's this stderr? :D
20130425 22:03:19< siddh> nvm
20130425 22:04:50< siddh> 20130425 23:01:33 error config: config::error thrown during transaction with add-on server; "Unexpected characters at line start, value '{' at <unknown>:1" 20130425 23:01:33 error general: Network communication error.
20130425 22:04:58< siddh> sry but since it was 1 line 
20130425 22:05:03< siddh> I mean fit on 
20130425 22:12:15< siddh> hmm there's no file with first line starting with {
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