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20130530 00:07:35< anonymissimus> btw are any of the accepted GSoC students MSVC users ?
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20130530 00:15:53< SigurdFD> Ivanovic, shadowm, anonymissimus, Esperon: Hi. I’ve managed to find time again, & I’d like to do some work on mapgen.cpp this summer.
20130530 00:15:54< SigurdFD> Here is what I have in mind: http://pastebin.com/zN6nzn8T
20130530 00:16:04< SigurdFD> The first two are done as patches #3924 & #3925.
20130530 00:16:15< SigurdFD> I’m wondering how I should proceed with this. Submit more patches / pull requests or should I have write access at this point?
20130530 00:18:51< anonymissimus> SigurdFD: firstly, I think you should re-submit work as pull reauests which are much easier to handle for everyone involved (IMHO, but it seems as if opinions differ)
20130530 00:21:03< anonymissimus> SigurdFD: well, did you get patches accepted in the past ? I think we require >=2 "non-trivial" ones, what ever that may mean, then you can ask Ivanovic to get write access
20130530 00:21:43< SigurdFD> yes, 5, not sure how many of them would rank as non-trival
20130530 00:22:47< SigurdFD> one definately is trivial, the other 4 seem borderline to me.
20130530 00:23:08< anonymissimus> SigurdFD: well, it was a mistake to not ask for write access shortly afterwards, or were those only wml patches ? did I apply some of them ?
20130530 00:23:47< anonymissimus> wml patches don't count when getting write access for c++, obviously
20130530 00:23:54< SigurdFD> Yes, https://gna.org/patch/?2820 & https://gna.org/patch/?3040
20130530 00:24:21< SigurdFD> are the two you applied
20130530 00:28:37< anonymissimus> SigurdFD: well, you're good to go as far as I'm concerned
20130530 00:29:00< flix> anonymissimus: fyi: I'm not a MSVC user.
20130530 00:29:49< anonymissimus> flix: I thought as much yes
20130530 00:32:03< anonymissimus> SigurdFD: if you wanna work on the random mapgen, I submitted one supposedly related bug here https://gna.org/bugs/index.php?20719
20130530 00:32:46< anonymissimus> which is perhaps not difficult to fix
20130530 00:35:10< SigurdFD> anonymissimus: ok, thanks, thanks
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20130530 00:35:40< bumbadadabum> Hello people
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20130530 05:30:30< irker358> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master 17f1a0 / src/storyscreen/controller.cpp: Made storyscreen next/prev arrows use new images http://git.io/ZIrZ5Q
20130530 05:30:33< irker358> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master ca5b73 / images/buttons/ (8 files): Removed old "big-arrow" images http://git.io/rS07Vw
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20130530 06:06:21< shadowm> vultraz: I am getting this at the start of every storyscreen segment now:
20130530 06:06:22< shadowm> 20130530 00:05:53 error display: could not open image 'icons/arrows/long_arrow_ornate_left-pressed.png'
20130530 06:06:25< shadowm> 20130530 00:05:53 error display: could not open image 'icons/arrows/long_arrow_ornate_right-pressed.png'
20130530 06:06:46< vultraz> Yes, LordBob hasn't made a pressed variation
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20130530 07:31:33< vultraz_laptop> hullo LordBob_ 
20130530 07:31:40< LordBob_> hi there
20130530 07:32:50< vultraz_laptop> LordBob_: we need pressed variations of icons/arrows/long_arrow_ornate_left and right
20130530 07:32:54< LordBob_> vultraz_laptop: I took a glance at your latest commit: I think there might be a problem similar to yesterday, with the arrow image overlay not following the active/pressed button states
20130530 07:33:02< LordBob_> ah
20130530 07:33:49< LordBob_> indeed, I forgot to commit them; wait a minute
20130530 07:38:18< vultraz_laptop> Still working on resize and replay buttons
20130530 07:38:56< vultraz_laptop> I found where the resize ones are set up, but I'm still trying to figure out how to make it work correctly
20130530 07:47:50< irker358> wesnoth: Emilien Rotival wesnoth-old:master cb5300 / images/icons/arrows/ (4 files): Missing artwork for the 'pressed' state of long arrow buttons http://git.io/ggNDhg
20130530 07:48:51< fabi> vultraz_laptop, LordBob_: hi
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20130530 07:50:23< LordBob_> vultraz_laptop: for the resize buttons, I think it's best to use the "arrows_blank" files; since they're a  display information and not ineractive, I would rather they looked a bit different from other buttons
20130530 07:50:23< LordBob_> hi fabi
20130530 07:50:53< LordBob_> and that's "interactive" I meant
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20130530 07:51:12< vultraz_laptop> sure
20130530 07:51:21< vultraz_laptop> first let's see if I can get it working :P
20130530 07:57:46< fabi> LordBob_: Okay, the prototype is finished, coding wise. Any news on the art front?
20130530 08:12:12< LordBob_> fabi: none yet. I'm working on it as we speak
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20130530 08:17:58< vultraz_laptop> LordBob_: got the resize buttons updated :)
20130530 08:18:23< LordBob_> good :)
20130530 08:25:08< irker358> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master bc6398 / / (2 files in 2 dirs): Made icon toggle button/resize map dialog use new images http://git.io/3dX39Q
20130530 08:25:11< irker358> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master 66ddf6 / images/buttons/ (10 files): Removed old "resize-direction" buttons http://git.io/7vvu7Q
20130530 08:27:01< LordBob_> vultraz_laptop: by the way, the "pressed" long arrows are commited, in case you need to update anything in consequence
20130530 08:27:28< vultraz_laptop> Don't need to :)
20130530 08:27:55< vultraz_laptop> hang on, just lemme fix a small detail with the images from the previous commit
20130530 08:28:15< vultraz_laptop> I have every one using the center image when not in use instead of a blank image
20130530 08:29:42< LordBob_> was about to tell you so
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20130530 08:34:42< vultraz_laptop> LordBob_: can you commit a file called icons/arrows/arrows_blank_none_30.png ? just a 30x30 blank image
20130530 08:35:19< LordBob_> Are you using the 25 pix, or 30 pix buttons ? 
20130530 08:35:19< LordBob_> just to be sure, because both sets exist
20130530 08:35:21< vultraz_laptop> orr..
20130530 08:35:27< vultraz_laptop> actually wait a sec
20130530 08:36:03< vultraz_laptop> actually, yeah, commit it
20130530 08:36:11< vultraz_laptop> LordBob_: the 30 ones for this
20130530 08:37:03< LordBob_> Anyway, I'll be on leave for a couple hours. I'll commit when I get back
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20130530 08:38:24< irker358> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master 5ec5e0 / src/gui/dialogs/editor_resize_map.cpp: Use blank image instead of center for unfocused buttons in editor resize dialog http://git.io/aXea-g
20130530 08:41:01< vultraz_laptop> Ok, replay buttons should be next
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20130530 09:31:52< thunderstruck> Ivanovic: Hello. I saw other students got their access to the repo. May I get it as well?
20130530 09:32:14< Ivanovic> do you already have some patches in?
20130530 09:32:37< thunderstruck> Ivanovic: yes, http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SoC2013_thunderstruck_MP_Campaign_Support#2.29_Experience
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20130530 09:46:31< Ivanovic> thunderstruck: and what is your github account?
20130530 09:46:51< thunderstruck> Ivanovic: thunders
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20130530 10:10:11< Ivanovic> thunderstruck: you are in
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20130530 10:10:51< thunderstruck> Ivanovic: Cool. Thank you.
20130530 10:12:52< Crab_> Ivanovic: speaking of github repository access, I've managed to get https://github.com/crab by asking the support nicely (it was taken but not used). Can you give me access, as well?
20130530 10:13:40< Ivanovic> Crab_: you are in
20130530 10:14:28< Crab_> Ivanovic: thanks
20130530 10:18:46< vultraz_laptop> fabi: where do you set icon overlays for the theme buttons?
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20130530 10:29:23< fabi> vultraz_laptop: The overlay= attribute in theme wml. No, it is not documented in the wml reference wiki yet.
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20130530 11:47:52< irker801> wesnoth: Emilien Rotival wesnoth-old:master c13faf / images/icons/arrows/arrows_blank_none_30.png: Missing artwork for the resize directions buttons http://git.io/W0bTUg
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20130530 12:07:07< irker801> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master a33b3f / data/themes/macros.cfg: Made replay controls use new images http://git.io/KDzXpg
20130530 12:07:10< irker801> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master 092c75 / images/buttons/ (15 files): Removed old replay control buttons http://git.io/wzQBqw
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20130530 12:18:39< irker801> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master 485629 / scons/sdl.py: Updated path to testimage http://git.io/Nhxg5A
20130530 12:18:42< irker801> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master 29b5d8 / images/buttons/ (8 files): Removed old button bases http://git.io/UzWU4Q
20130530 12:19:37< vultraz_laptop> LordBob_: cleanup almost done :)
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20130530 12:28:22< vultraz_laptop> LordBob_: only endturn-*, wml_custom, lite-small, and large-button left
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20130530 12:44:10< AI0867> I'm a bit confused about what happened here: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/pull/17
20130530 12:44:27< AI0867> thunderstruck: did you force push to your own fork or something?
20130530 12:44:39< irker801> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master 7f8964 / data/themes/experimental.cfg: Used new images for end turn button in expirimental theme http://git.io/Ms-qtg
20130530 12:44:42< irker801> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master 5abfa6 / images/buttons/ (endturn-button-active.png endturn-button-pressed.png endturn-button.png): Removed old "endturn-button" images previously only used in experimental theme http://git.io/gpCkRA
20130530 12:45:20< thunderstruck> AI0867: yes, I forgot about that pull request. I'm not sure why LordBob_ merged it, though.
20130530 12:47:46< vultraz_laptop> The end turn button in experimental now goes off the screen slightly, but I doubt that matters 
20130530 12:47:52< vultraz_laptop> no one uses it
20130530 12:51:04< vultraz_laptop> LordBob_: should the new button_small_H22 be alright for a replacement for lite_small?
20130530 12:51:37< vultraz_laptop> LordBob_: either that, or you just make an updated lite-small
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20130530 12:52:21< vultraz_laptop> LordBob_: large-button needs a redraw; it's used for the End Turn button
20130530 12:57:47< LordBob_> vultraz_laptop: there's artwork for a "menu_button_small_H18" in images/buttons that has the exact same dimensions as lite_small. Two variants exist, "copper" and normal ; "copper" is for menu buttons (with a copper border), while normal is for dialog buttons
20130530 12:58:15< LordBob_> vultraz_laptop: and yes, I was aware of large_button needing a replacement, thank you
20130530 12:59:14< vultraz_laptop> ok, I'll point all lite_small refs to menu_button_small_H18
20130530 12:59:18< LordBob_> vultraz_laptop: so, depending on where slite_small is currently used, you can replace it with / relink it to a copy of the above
20130530 13:01:44< vultraz_laptop> well, I can either replace the lite_small images with a copy of menu_button_small_H18 or relink
20130530 13:01:49< vultraz_laptop> I guess the latter is better
20130530 13:02:12< LordBob_> Whichever works best. Just make sure to check what they're used for and choose menu_button_small_H18 or menu_button_small_copper_H18 accordingly ;)
20130530 13:02:33< vultraz_laptop> also, BTW, for all buttons that previous had 27x27 (eg, the resize ones), I made either 25x25 or 30x30
20130530 13:03:35< LordBob_> Good. That's how fabi and I had intended it
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20130530 13:24:40< irker801> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master 8ee955 / data/themes/dfool.cfg data/themes/editor.cfg src/dialogs.cpp: Replaced refs to old lite_small image with one to new image http://git.io/Q15L2Q
20130530 13:24:43< irker801> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master 1503c9 / images/buttons/ (lite_small-active.png lite_small-pressed.png lite_small.png): Removed old "lite_small" images http://git.io/W5mgHQ
20130530 13:25:09< vultraz_laptop> LordBob_: I think that's everything. All that remains are those two images for you to update :)
20130530 13:25:34< vultraz_laptop> oh, and we could possibly remove the old editor terrain/tool icons
20130530 13:25:42< vultraz_laptop> since now we have your new ones
20130530 13:29:32< LordBob_> vultraz_laptop: you've done a good job in updating all these.
20130530 13:29:53< vultraz_laptop> thanks :)
20130530 13:30:00< LordBob_> I guess the hunt for unused, outdated artwork is what comes next indeed
20130530 13:31:56< vultraz_laptop> I think all of images/buttons/editor is unused, and mostly outdated
20130530 13:33:02< vultraz_laptop> besides that, I think we've cleaned out most everything
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20130530 13:33:53< LordBob_> vultraz_laptop: here's one last thing I would like you to check: there seems to be a glitch with the bottomright and topleft arrows in the resize window. I've checked the artwork, however, and I don't see anything wrong in there. Could you make sure there aren't two images displayed on top of each other, or anything similar ?
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20130530 13:36:12< vultraz_laptop> fabi: can you confirm that images/buttons/editor, or at least most of its contents (especially the old editor images) can be deleted?
20130530 13:40:24< fabi> vultraz_laptop: yes
20130530 13:40:42< vultraz_laptop> LordBob_: huh...can't find a cause for that :/
20130530 13:40:48< vultraz_laptop> fabi: all of it?
20130530 13:41:38< fabi> It could be moved to resources instead of being deleted.
20130530 13:42:04< vultraz_laptop> hm...I don't see how any of it could be of any use...
20130530 13:43:59< LordBob_> vultraz_laptop: I don't know how it happens, but after checking a screenshot, it looks like the 25 (or 30) button bases are being resized to 27. The same transformation must somehow apply to the arrows, hence the glitch
20130530 13:45:09< vultraz_laptop> hm...
20130530 13:45:39< vultraz_laptop> ah, here it is
20130530 13:52:32< irker801> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master 1bb0b4 / data/gui/default/widget/toggle_button_icon.cfg: Increased size of nornal icon toggle button a little. Prevents scaling on normal http://git.io/PTYf9w
20130530 13:52:48< vultraz_laptop> LordBob_: fixes it ^
20130530 13:55:34< LordBob_> vultraz_laptop:  you're saying buttons are scaled automatically under certain circumstances ?
20130530 13:55:51< vultraz_laptop> no, the size was set to 27
20130530 13:56:07< vultraz_laptop> I just bumped it to 30
20130530 13:56:38< LordBob_> oh. Good then. And the fix works for me
20130530 14:01:32< irker801> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master 929b07 / data/gui/default/widget/toggle_button_icon.cfg: Bumped size by 1 for normal icon toggle button, tiny res, for consistency http://git.io/Ft6wOw
20130530 14:01:59< vultraz_laptop> small OCD-induced tweak :P
20130530 14:02:12< vultraz_laptop> doesn't affect the resize dialog
20130530 14:03:29< vultraz_laptop> anddd that's all I can do for now
20130530 14:07:38< LordBob_> vultraz_laptop: meaning you have other things to do, or you're asking us to throw more work at you ? :p
20130530 14:08:37< vultraz_laptop> Meaning I'm can't find any more image-related stuff that needs doing :P
20130530 14:09:34< vultraz_laptop> LordBob_: oh BTW, the Item and Scenery group images are missing
20130530 14:10:31< LordBob_> I know. They're next on my list, unless you want to give it a try ?
20130530 14:12:01< vultraz_laptop> eh....nah :P don't want to stick mediocre art in with amazing art :P
20130530 14:12:21 * vultraz_laptop takes the editor for a test spin working on a map
20130530 14:12:38< vultraz_laptop> fabi: there's no way to remove placed items :/
20130530 14:13:09< fabi> vultraz_laptop: Not much of a problem right now. They are not saved yet...
20130530 14:13:30< vultraz_laptop> fabi: ah, ok
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20130530 15:25:03< AI0867> thunderstruck: I don't think he did, he just made the next commit after you reduced the number of commits to make to zero
20130530 15:25:38< AI0867> and as after that commit, the number of commits your branch was ahead of master 'became' zero, he must have merged it, right?
20130530 15:46:01< thunderstruck> AI0867: ah, ok. I should've created a new branch for that pull request so the problem would be avoided.
20130530 15:49:32< irker801> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 132661 / changelog: Update changelog http://git.io/Ji_BDA
20130530 15:49:53< H-Hour> does anyone know who deserves credit for the story artwork in The Two Brothers? the credits in _main.cfg list four people for "Artwork and Graphics Design": szopen, Kitty, MadMax and Stefan
20130530 15:55:39< zookeeper> stefan i think, but let me check...
20130530 15:56:39< H-Hour> thanks zookeeper
20130530 15:57:19< zookeeper> yeah, stefan
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20130530 16:03:52< wesbot> mattsc: The person with the nick Zazweda last spoke 14d ago.  14d ago they left with the message: Ping timeout: 250 seconds
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20130530 16:40:21< Ivanovic> crab_: thanks for the pointer, requesting to have the old registrered account dropped at github worked like a charm
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20130530 16:49:13< thunderstruck> vultraz_laptop: I'm not able to enter the game with the latest dev. Log says it is because of a few missing images in buttons/.
20130530 16:49:28< thunderstruck> I think it might be this commit: http://git.io/UzWU4Q
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20130530 17:48:23< thunderstruck> vultraz_laptop: Nevermind. I think it was something else.
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20130530 18:32:20< Dnyarri> thunderstruck: Same thing with me. I could not get into campaign. However, after removing preferences file I'm able to get into game
20130530 18:33:37< Dnyarri> But error appears again immediately after trying to resize screen
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20130530 18:41:56< thunderstruck> Dnyarri: Yes, I resized window as well. I think that different icons for low resolution might be used.
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20130530 20:37:52< LordBob_> fabi: there ?
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20130530 22:06:44< AI0867> fabi, lordbob: your changes seem to have had an effect on the new lobby
20130530 22:06:56< AI0867> suddenly, there's a lot of blue there
20130530 22:11:40< AI0867> also: Could not create button: Image could not be found
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20130530 22:23:54< vultraz> AI0867: which button?
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20130530 22:24:23< vultraz> any such error is probably my fault :/
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20130530 22:25:15< bumbadadabum> vultraz: His game did a Houdini when he tried to join a MP game
20130530 22:25:28< bumbadadabum> I
20130530 22:25:47< bumbadadabum> I'm answering because I wanted to make the comparison to houdini
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20130530 22:29:01< AI0867> vultraz: it doesn't say
20130530 22:29:18< vultraz> :/
20130530 22:29:25< vultraz> well that's helpful
20130530 22:29:28< AI0867> the houdini meaning that the entire wesnoth client managed to escape my machine
20130530 22:29:31< AI0867> I have no trace of it
20130530 22:29:37< vultraz> ...?
20130530 22:30:25< vultraz> uh...how
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20130530 22:34:14< thunderstruck> vultraz: I'm not sure you've seen logs, but there is a problem with button images when starting the game on low resolution.
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20130530 22:35:14< vultraz> thunderstruck: huh...possibly an art problem? or an imagepath problem? or a scaling problem?
20130530 22:36:55< AI0867> none of those *should* be able to just cause the client to abort without any errors
20130530 22:37:33< vultraz> no...lemme see if something happens to me
20130530 22:38:01< thunderstruck> vultraz: some images missing which were removed here http://git.io/UzWU4Q
20130530 22:38:29< thunderstruck> vultraz: you can just try to enter any campaign with window resolution set to 800x600 and logging
20130530 22:38:46< vultraz_laptop> hmmm...
20130530 22:38:58< vultraz_laptop> I thought I had killed all refs to those images
20130530 22:39:22< thunderstruck> vultraz_laptop: I suspect that different images are used on low resolution
20130530 22:41:07< vultraz_laptop> I can start HttT fine on 800x600
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20130530 22:41:31< vultraz_laptop> ahhh
20130530 22:41:32 * AI0867 is running at 800x480
20130530 22:41:34< vultraz_laptop> here we go
20130530 22:41:40< vultraz_laptop> end turn button on low reses
20130530 22:43:03< thunderstruck> vultraz_laptop: strange, I can't play HttT on 800x600
20130530 22:47:10< vultraz_laptop> thunderstruck: I think I found the problem
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20130530 22:52:33< irker797> wesnoth: Charles Dang wesnoth-old:master c8e8ca / data/themes/default.cfg: Use new images for end turn button on low resolutions http://git.io/9IndIQ
20130530 22:52:37< vultraz_laptop> thunderstruck: see if that works
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20130530 22:56:54< anonymissimus> vultraz_laptop: what build system are you working with c++ on now ?
20130530 22:59:25< AI0867> vultraz: that seems to have fixed it
20130530 22:59:31< AI0867> bumbadadabum: I can start wesband now
20130530 22:59:50< vultraz_laptop> XCode with GCC 4.2. Pretty outdated, but I'd have to download 1.6 GB to update XCode :/
20130530 23:02:39< anonymissimus> vultraz_laptop: and how did you get around the build problems you had due to your system upgrade ?
20130530 23:04:03< vultraz_laptop> anonymissimus: yes. seems wesnoth only crashes at startup when I use Apple LLVM 3 (which _8680_ says is clang) to build 
20130530 23:06:04< AI0867> clang is the c compiler for llvm
20130530 23:06:05< vultraz_laptop> so, using gcc 4.2 works
20130530 23:08:34< _8680_> vultraz_laptop: GCC 4.2 works but Clang 3.0 doesn’t?
20130530 23:10:05< vultraz_laptop> _8680_: both build, but using the latter results on wesnoth crashing right before the titlescreen on startup
20130530 23:11:18< _8680_> vultraz_laptop: Did Clang warn you about anything?
20130530 23:11:34< vultraz_laptop> I told you, it gave like 300 warnings over various files
20130530 23:14:09< anonymissimus> vultraz_laptop: if you didn't code any c++ before, did you wonder about some less challenging project ?
20130530 23:14:52 * anonymissimus knows some nice other c++ open source games
20130530 23:15:00< vultraz_laptop> anonymissimus: not really, no, though that might've been a good idea
20130530 23:15:14< vultraz_laptop> I kinda just...jumped into C++ coding for wesnoth :P
20130530 23:15:30 * anonymissimus finds wesnoth really huge and takes looong to build
20130530 23:15:52< _8680_> vultraz_laptop: “might've”? I’ve said that before, and you agreed.
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