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20130505 04:01:22< Gambit> &op
20130505 04:01:34< Gambit> oh right
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20130505 04:02:16-!- Maccer was kicked from #wesnoth by Gambit [white supremacists are not welcome in the Battle for Wesnoth community.]
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20130505 04:19:15< Hulavuta1> what
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20130505 04:29:59< Gambit> Hulavuta1: Just a garden variety troll.
20130505 04:30:05< Hulavuta1> What happened?
20130505 04:30:08< Hulavuta1> If I may ask
20130505 04:30:26< Espreon> Someone that opposes Gambit's views came into "Gambit's" zone".
20130505 04:30:31< Gambit> ...
20130505 04:30:33< Espreon> That's all.
20130505 04:30:51< Hulavuta1> Is there a log
20130505 04:30:57< Gambit> My views that black people are human beings.
20130505 04:30:58< Gambit> Lol
20130505 04:31:00< Espreon> Nothing bad happened here.
20130505 04:31:04< Hulavuta1> I just wanna see
20130505 04:31:07< Hulavuta1> Curiosity and stuff
20130505 04:31:20< Gambit> I am not having this fight with you here Espreon. If you want to stick your neck out for the racist, I will chop it off.
20130505 04:31:36< Gambit> And if he causes any more trouble for Wesnoth, bumbadadabum will find himself exiled.
20130505 04:31:44< Gambit> Pass that along.
20130505 04:31:50< Espreon> He has caused no trouble.
20130505 04:32:11< Hulavuta1> ._. do you have the log
20130505 04:32:13< Gambit> I'm not playing with the white supremacist stalker brigade from 4chan.
20130505 04:32:19< Gambit> They will be banned, and we will move on.
20130505 04:32:32< Gambit> There will be no more games.
20130505 04:33:20< Gambit> I've just sent a complete dossier on the incident to all the administrators and moderators in the community.
20130505 04:33:57< Espreon> Ca nichoca — I cry.
20130505 04:34:20< Hulavuta1> I wanna see the log >_>
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20130505 06:17:20< Necrosporus> Does wesnoth liches have philacteria?
20130505 06:18:04< Necrosporus> or using harry potter mythology, some analog of chorcruxes
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20130505 06:19:42< celticminstrel> I would assume that if anything they have a phylactery.
20130505 06:20:37< shadowm> There is no mainline evidence suggesting they have any kind of soul container like that.
20130505 06:38:19< celticminstrel> That's why I said "if anything".
20130505 06:39:41< AI0867> the 'phylactery' is their skull
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20130505 07:03:58< Necrosporus> So what happens with an lich when it is... i.e. smashed with a hammer?
20130505 07:04:10< Necrosporus> 0hp
20130505 07:04:16< _8680_> Necrosporus: It dies.
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20130505 07:04:33< Necrosporus> But that's a lich, he's already sort of dead
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20130505 07:05:02< _8680_> Necrosporus: Well, it dies fully this time.
20130505 07:05:30< Necrosporus> So just that?
20130505 07:05:34< _8680_> There’s nothing that suggests that normal liches have any such immortality.
20130505 07:05:58< Necrosporus> That's too easy... fantasy liches can live even when there's only a half of skull left or something
20130505 07:06:02< _8680_> The extra-special super-powerful liches, though, often do.
20130505 07:06:13< _8680_> I think so anyway.
20130505 07:06:25< celticminstrel> I think there's some in-game evidence that liches can come back after you kill them, isn't there? Not entirely sure though...
20130505 07:06:31< shadowm> Jevyan and Mal-Ravanal were permanently banished.
20130505 07:06:51< shadowm> Those are your most powerful mainline liches.
20130505 07:07:08< NoQ> > normal liches
20130505 07:07:18< _8680_> Doesn’t Mal-Ravanal have some kind of invincibility?
20130505 07:07:20< shadowm> Mal-Ravanal was anything but normal.
20130505 07:07:33< _8680_> It’s been years since I played EI.
20130505 07:07:56< _8680_> Yes, he was one of the extra-special super-powerful liches.
20130505 07:08:10< _8680_> The campaign archvillain liches.
20130505 07:09:51< celticminstrel> Aren't there some liches that appear more than once, though?
20130505 07:10:00< shadowm> Not in mainline.
20130505 07:10:11< celticminstrel> Ah, okay.
20130505 07:10:16< shadowm> Well, except for Malifor, I guess.
20130505 07:10:21< shadowm> But NR is poorly written and everyone knows that.
20130505 07:10:35< shadowm> He's still destroyed in the next scenario for good.
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20130505 07:16:40< celticminstrel> NR?
20130505 07:16:57< shadowm> Northern Rebirth.
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20130505 08:27:30< Necrosporus> I wonder, why did I find An Orcish incursion interesting, while all the campaign is mostly plain kill the leader
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20130505 12:48:37< siddh> :D
20130505 12:48:41< siddh> hello 
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20130505 13:33:56< bumbadadabum> 20130505 04:31:36< Gambit> And if he causes any more trouble for Wesnoth, bumbadadabum will find himself exiled.
20130505 13:33:56< bumbadadabum> 20130505 04:31:44< Gambit> Pass that along.
20130505 13:34:04< bumbadadabum> Oh, you're going to exile me?
20130505 13:34:06< bumbadadabum> for what?
20130505 13:34:12< bumbadadabum> The fuck did I do?
20130505 13:37:01< blarumyrran> he's probably being edgy and ironic
20130505 13:37:12< blarumyrran> and doesn't mean it seriously
20130505 13:37:23< bumbadadabum> Well, he called me an asshole on Twitter
20130505 13:37:28< bumbadadabum> he banned me from ##Gambot
20130505 13:37:35< bumbadadabum> I think he might be serious
20130505 13:37:38< blarumyrran> nah
20130505 13:37:53< blarumyrran> unless you are black, of course
20130505 13:37:56< blarumyrran> he hates black people
20130505 13:38:21< bumbadadabum> The problem is that he thinks I'm a white supremacist or something
20130505 13:38:40< blarumyrran> then he's definitely being ironic
20130505 13:38:46< blarumyrran> he is a white supremacist himself
20130505 13:39:38< blarumyrran> he said the most important reason to object to Khalifa is that it has "brown people" in it
20130505 13:40:56< blarumyrran> also, that he applauds people who fight advocates of black civil rights
20130505 13:42:15< blarumyrran> also, that he plans to update the forum guidelines so as to encourage his racialist agenda
20130505 13:48:48< bumbadadabum> Lol he's hating on me on twitter
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20130505 14:19:00< Gambit> blarumyrran: Wow you still don't understand sarcasm.
20130505 14:19:55< Gambit> I mean, you understand it perfectly. Congratulations.
20130505 14:25:53< blarumyrran> Gambit , even in case you really were trolling with your racial tirade - doesn't that just make you a racist troll? The vast majority of people on the internet who use racist slurs or rants, are not ideologically racist
20130505 14:26:54< blarumyrran> then you are just another internet racist troll - i do not think that is something to be proud of either
20130505 14:27:35< Gambit> I think at this point you have forgotten what I even said.
20130505 14:27:41< bumbadadabum> blarumyrran: Tell that to /r/ShitRedditSays
20130505 14:28:03< bumbadadabum> all internet racism is super serious, if I were to believe them
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20130505 14:39:39< bumbadadabum> Gambit: Why does your political ideology influence you so much to the point of this happening?
20130505 14:41:08< Gambit> I think you need to reread the posting guidelines, the code of conduct, and ask Crushmaster why he can't publish his campaign on the add-on server if you think this isn't something Wesnoth would stand behind.
20130505 14:41:33< bumbadadabum> Gambit: He actually wanted to play the game and code for it
20130505 14:42:52< Gambit> My original ban was in #minecraft, where we often ban known trolls that came from reddit. He has since become a creepy stalker thanks to you.
20130505 14:43:01< bumbadadabum> Thanks to me?
20130505 14:43:07< bumbadadabum> You're funny
20130505 14:43:40< Gambit> You told him about ##shadowm. You told him about Wesnoth. You gave him my twitter.
20130505 14:43:52< bumbadadabum> I didn't give him your twitter
20130505 14:43:52< Gambit> Why don't you give him my email address next and I can get lots of spam from 4chan?
20130505 14:44:08< bumbadadabum> Well, we were talking about wesnoth
20130505 14:44:14< bumbadadabum> so he asked what wesnoth was
20130505 14:44:29< bumbadadabum> and I gave him the link to wesnoth.org and #wesnoth
20130505 14:44:57< bumbadadabum> "Gambit: Why don't you give him my email address next and I can get lots of spam from 4chan?"
20130505 14:45:10< Gambit> Yeah, you invited the creepy racist stalker into your channel.
20130505 14:45:13< bumbadadabum> He said he doesn't even frequently visit 4chan
20130505 14:45:26< Gambit> And gave him more information.
20130505 14:45:30< bumbadadabum> Gambit: He didn't say anything racist to me
20130505 14:45:38< bumbadadabum> or in the wesnoth channels
20130505 14:47:22< Gambit> No duh.
20130505 14:47:30< bumbadadabum> Gambit: Give me evidence of his "white supremacy"
20130505 14:47:58< bumbadadabum> He said he was expressing this thoughts against SRS
20130505 14:48:01< Gambit> See that's the thing. I already sent my justification for the ban to everyone who actually matters.
20130505 14:48:03< bumbadadabum> and not supporting racism
20130505 14:48:24< bumbadadabum> Gambit: Did you throw my name around everywhere
20130505 14:48:27< bumbadadabum> of course you did
20130505 14:48:41< bumbadadabum> because I am SOOOOO troubling wesnoth
20130505 14:48:47< bumbadadabum> by having him in my channel
20130505 14:49:55< Gambit> You've put everyone you discuss in the channel at risk of being scrutinized by a community who loves to gather people's personal information and harass them.
20130505 14:50:16< bumbadadabum> Also, you didn't mention you affiliation with SRS
20130505 14:50:48< bumbadadabum> "Gambit: You've put everyone you discuss in the channel at risk of being scrutinized by a community who loves to gather people's personal information and harass them."
20130505 14:50:55< bumbadadabum> And how am I doing that?
20130505 14:51:04< Gambit> See I like how he never mentioned SRS at any point except to you because you probably let slip that you already dislike them. He's playing you.
20130505 14:52:00< Gambit> He's going to de-emphasize what a racist piece of crap he is and silvertongue his way around gathering more information for the eventual raid.
20130505 14:53:09< Gambit> I could have just stonewalled him out of everything and he might have gotten bored and left, but you had to go and give him more information, more drama, more ammunition.
20130505 14:53:25< bumbadadabum> Gambit: Because the bans are baseless
20130505 14:53:33< bumbadadabum> you ban him from #wesnoth, and why?
20130505 14:53:36< bumbadadabum> because you dislike him
20130505 14:54:05< bumbadadabum> You post crap about him in a CLOSED board, where neither me and him can post anything in defense
20130505 14:54:14< Gambit> It's incredibly disingenuous to frame this as a simple difference of opinion.
20130505 14:54:47< Gambit> Hey guess what bumbadadabum, Wesnoth is not the United States of America.
20130505 14:55:01< bumbadadabum> Gambit: It isn't Nazi Germany either
20130505 14:55:18< Gambit> Oh hey there Godwin's Law. It's well known that Hitler hated racists.
20130505 14:55:39< bumbadadabum> Give me evidence that he's racist
20130505 14:55:46< Gambit> Actually, you bring up a good point. I'm done discussing this ban because it's against Wesnoth policies of discussing bans publicly.
20130505 14:55:54< bumbadadabum> and don't come with "he visited /pol/"
20130505 14:56:15< bumbadadabum> Yeah man, run away
20130505 14:56:40< Gambit> Because when they don't have other Wesnoth team members like a translator feeding them, banned people tend to go away when they get bored.
20130505 14:56:49< bumbadadabum> You're being unreasonable and you know it
20130505 14:57:37< bumbadadabum> Gambit: Then you succesfully scared a possible coder away from the game
20130505 14:57:41< bumbadadabum> Congratu-fucking-lations
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