--- Log opened Tue Jun 18 00:00:48 2013 20130618 00:03:01-!- mjs-de [~mjs-de@wh.uni-dortmund.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130618 00:04:31< fabi__> shadowm: I just noticed that the 1.10 addon manager asks if it should also download the dependencies of a newly installed addon. 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Will try to keep up with the logs ...] 20130618 00:47:35-!- irker782 [~irker@ai0867.net] has quit [Quit: transmission timeout] 20130618 00:50:41-!- shadowm_desktop [ignacio@wesnoth/developer/shadowmaster] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 00:55:04< fabi__> shadowm: I just wanted to test it with "To Lands Unknown" which depends on an extra graphic package. 20130618 00:55:17< shadowm> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21371130/screenshots/master-ats-deps-prompt.png 20130618 00:55:24< fabi__> shadowm: But the extra addon is not deletable nor is it marked as installed. 20130618 00:57:21< shadowm> TLU does not depend on TLU:I. 20130618 00:57:27< shadowm> Not as far as campaignd and clients care. 20130618 00:58:50< shadowm> Shocking, I know, but I have the campaignd configuration right in front of me and both TLU and TLU:I have empty dependencies attributes. 20130618 00:59:20< Espreon> Hmmm, odd. 20130618 00:59:44-!- nurupo [~nurupo.ga@unaffiliated/nurupo] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130618 00:59:45< shadowm> Espreon: If you are the uploader, make sure you didn't write it as "depends" or some other word that isn't "dependencies". 20130618 00:59:56< Espreon> Perhaps I didn't put the dependencies= thingy into the pbl I actually use to upload them... 20130618 00:59:59 * Espreon shrugts 20130618 01:00:02< Espreon> *shrugs 20130618 01:00:12< Espreon> I have "dependencies=" in the sample pbl 20130618 01:00:23< Espreon> And I don't have the pbl I actually use with me 20130618 01:00:46< fabi__> shadowm: Shouldn't the dependencies being displayed in the campaign info box? 20130618 01:01:05< shadowm> Yes. 20130618 01:01:33< shadowm> Add-on info box, too. 20130618 01:03:46< fabi__> shadowm: Yes, I meant the addon manager's info box. 20130618 01:06:16-!- nurupo [~nurupo.ga@unaffiliated/nurupo] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 01:11:57-!- nurupo [~nurupo.ga@unaffiliated/nurupo] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130618 01:34:47-!- bumbadadabum [~bumba@d155109.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20130618 01:42:46-!- Alarantalara [~Adium@CPEc0c1c09e8055-CM00252eac6d62.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 01:43:14-!- Alarantalara [~Adium@CPEc0c1c09e8055-CM00252eac6d62.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Client Quit] 20130618 01:57:30-!- cjhopman [cjhopman@nat/google/x-pdqkojujarxjcpdu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 02:00:56-!- prkc [~negusnyul@BC06D8CE.dsl.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20130618 02:10:03-!- LordBob_ [~LordBob_@2a01:e34:ee82:47e0:21e:c2ff:fe01:261f] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20130618 02:13:33-!- LordBob_ [~LordBob_@2a01:e34:ee82:47e0:21e:c2ff:fe01:261f] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 02:14:02-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130618 02:25:35-!- Alarantalara [~Adium@CPEc0c1c09e8055-CM00252eac6d62.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 02:25:49-!- Alarantalara [~Adium@CPEc0c1c09e8055-CM00252eac6d62.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Client Quit] 20130618 02:35:27< shadowm> !log 89714490d32c769ee0ed80143ac47b5b2a8aa073 20130618 02:35:27< shikadibot> shadowm: Revision 897144 (Alexander van Gessel) on Mon Jun 17 19:29:14 2013: 20130618 02:35:31< shikadibot> shadowm: Remove '[filter_vision]viewing_side, which has been deprecated since before 1.10 20130618 02:35:34< shikadibot> shadowm: Web interface URL: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/commit/897144 20130618 02:36:00< shadowm> AI0867: The changelog entry appeared in 1.11.0. 20130618 02:40:35-!- stikonas [~gentoo@wesnoth/translator/stikonas] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 20130618 02:50:26-!- irker408 [~irker@ai0867.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 02:50:27< irker408> wesnoth: Ignacio R. 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Morelle wesnoth-old:master 88df34 / src/campaign_server/campaign_server.cpp: campaignd: Allow existing add-ons with invalid names to be reuploaded https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/commit/88df3418f99f05f2465ace970eaa36656ff6ee0e 20130618 03:36:54-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130618 03:40:44-!- Gambit_ [~gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 03:41:01-!- Gambit [~gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20130618 04:02:19< AI0867> 02:36 < shadowm> AI0867: The changelog entry appeared in 1.11.0. <-- I believe my git log showed 1.10 in there somewhere 20130618 04:02:33-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-23-22-136-101.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 04:02:33< travis-ci> [travis-ci] wesnoth/wesnoth-old#70 (master - 88df341 : Ignacio R. Morelle): The build passed. 20130618 04:02:33< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Change view : https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/compare/e9bcbb88f35a...88df3418f99f 20130618 04:02:33< travis-ci> [travis-ci] Build details : http://travis-ci.org/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/builds/8182926 20130618 04:02:33-!- travis-ci [~travis-ci@ec2-23-22-136-101.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20130618 04:02:35< AI0867> but I could be wrong, I suppose 20130618 04:03:05< shadowm> AI0867: If your git log showed 1.10 it'd still mean it's a rather recent thing. 20130618 04:03:22< shadowm> Maybe you could pinpoint the specific commit though. 20130618 04:17:44< shadowm> !dir /src/tests 20130618 04:17:44< shikadibot> shadowm: Web interface URL to dir src/tests: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/tree/master/src/tests 20130618 04:20:15< AI0867> shadowm: you're right. 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hullo LordBob_ 20130618 14:12:15< thunderstruck> Crab_: Hi. 20130618 14:12:32< thunderstruck> Crab_: Do you have a moment to talk 20130618 14:12:36< thunderstruck> ? 20130618 14:12:49< Crab_> thunderstruck: hello 20130618 14:12:51< Crab_> yes 20130618 14:13:15< thunderstruck> Did you read my email? 20130618 14:13:44< Crab_> thunderstruck: I've read it, but hasn't got a chance to give a detailed answer yet 20130618 14:14:43< thunderstruck> Crab_: ok. Anyway, what I wanted to make sure was to ask if it is a good idea to start from mp create? If so, there will be some conflicting changes with the lipkab's stuff. 20130618 14:15:13< Crab_> He's working on gui stuff now, right? 20130618 14:16:44< thunderstruck> Crab_: well, yes. But in multiplayer_create.*pp gui and game set up is mixed together. 20130618 14:17:34< thunderstruck> Crab_: in addition, he already moved options to a separate window and that would change the way how to load the game. 20130618 14:18:26< thunderstruck> how to start a game* 20130618 14:18:42-!- EliDupree [~quassel@66-189-34-122.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 14:19:22< Crab_> thunderstruck: do you have any alternate 'where to start' proposals? 20130618 14:20:19< thunderstruck> Crab_: I could work on that upgrader for old-syntax. 20130618 14:20:24< thunderstruck> Crab_: it does not depend on anything. 20130618 14:21:55< Crab_> thunderstruck: let me think a little... 20130618 14:27:33< Crab_> thunderstruck: reading the code, it's definitely mixed together too much 20130618 14:27:43< Crab_> I think that we'd need to modify the way the game is started to make it less mixed together 20130618 14:28:03< Crab_> but, to get this right, we need to coordinate with lipkab 20130618 14:30:37< thunderstruck> Crab_: yes, I also think the same. So, I'll contact him on the forums and will act accordingly depending on his progress. In the meantime, I could work on that uprader, if you agree. 20130618 14:30:53< thunderstruck> s/uprader/upgrader 20130618 14:32:57-!- exciton_ [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 14:36:23-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20130618 14:37:23-!- exciton_ [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20130618 14:37:54-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 14:45:08< Crab_> thunderstruck: I would recommend getting your current code to wesnoth before that 20130618 14:45:08< Crab_> thunderstruck: so you'll have no 'pending' work. 20130618 14:46:49< thunderstruck> Crab_: Sure. I was just waiting your email reply so that I could look into that problem with hashes myself and then apply a fix you suggested. 20130618 14:47:21< Crab_> thunderstruck: I had a small mistake there, it's just config::hash() which doesn't use md5 or sha1. 20130618 14:47:26< thunderstruck> Crab_: and also you said you were going to test changes yourself, so shouldn't I wait for that as well? 20130618 14:48:04< Crab_> thunderstruck: I'd say "no". it looked good enough and if there'll be bugs spotted later we can fix them 20130618 14:50:36< Crab_> thunderstruck: I don't want you to do the config upgrade part yet, because I think that "Enable engine to work properly with both [scenario] and [multiplayer] tags when used in multiplayer games." should be done first 20130618 14:50:50< Crab_> thunderstruck: for example, it might turn out that we don't need to upgrade anything 20130618 14:51:18< thunderstruck> Crab_: hmm.. that's true. 20130618 14:51:34-!- sea-theorem [~sea@fsf/member/sea4ever] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 14:51:34< Crab_> thunderstruck: and so I'm thinking about studying and refactoring the way we get the "level" config from game config 20130618 14:51:43< Crab_> thunderstruck: and the 'studying' part won't cause any conflicts 20130618 14:51:48< Crab_> thunderstruck: since you'll be reading the code mostly 20130618 14:52:15< Crab_> in general, it looks like "const game config + input from mp dialogs" => level config 20130618 14:52:38< Crab_> where mp dialogs have some state, and can ask the game config to be reloaded with different set of defines 20130618 14:53:17< Crab_> e.g. "const game config + input from mp dialogs" => "reload game config for campaign, new const game level" + "input from other mp dialogs" => level config 20130618 14:57:15< Crab_> thunderstruck: ideally, the gui of the dialogs should be independent on the configs/engine part 20130618 14:58:04< Crab_> thunderstruck: so, lipkab would be able to change the dialogs in any way, and just signal the transitions we want (change game options, reload main game config for new campaign/difficulty, get the level config, etc) 20130618 14:58:53< Crab_> also, most of the dialogs need some input data 20130618 14:58:54< thunderstruck> Maybe it would be a good start to first separate gui from all other stuff? 20130618 14:59:22< Crab_> it can't be 'fully' separated but at least it should not modify the main level config directly 20130618 14:59:51< Crab_> dialogs need info from game config / game options to work 20130618 15:00:10< Crab_> e.g. to show the list of scenarios, we need to get a list of scenarios. 20130618 15:00:47< thunderstruck> Yes, I'm aware of that. I was working with that part for my demo. 20130618 15:00:50< Crab_> this list can be taken directly from main game config or it can be a post-processed form ( which, for example, would include both MP scenarios and MP campaigns) 20130618 15:01:08< Crab_> direct reading is usually not that much of a problem 20130618 15:01:33< Crab_> writes are worse, since they tend to mix the gui and logic 20130618 15:01:59< Crab_> I think that the good idea is to study the current implementation for a day or two first 20130618 15:04:15< Crab_> then you'll be able to decide how best to change it 20130618 15:04:16< Crab_> and push the part that you've already done to master (after some more testing) 20130618 15:04:41< thunderstruck> Crab_: ok. 20130618 15:05:22< thunderstruck> Crab_: I will write you later, then I have something more to tell you. 20130618 15:05:48-!- kex [~kex@89.205.70.185] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 15:07:23< Crab_> thunderstruck: ok! I think that it'll be a good thing to code a 'dummy' dialog for MP campaigns, to allow you to test 'select campaign/select difficulty' things and to launch the game (with all sides controlled by you, locally) 20130618 15:07:31-!- kex [~kex@89.205.70.185] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20130618 15:08:02< Crab_> thunderstruck: that way we'll be able avoid some of the conflicts, until we've done with the engine part 20130618 15:08:22-!- kex [~kex@89.205.70.185] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 15:08:54< thunderstruck> Crab_: why I can't use current dialogs as I did in my demo? 20130618 15:09:14< Crab_> thunderstruck: you can, but you need to be careful and talk to lipkab 20130618 15:09:45< thunderstruck> Crab_: I meant that I can use current dialogs for testing. 20130618 15:13:01< Crab_> thunderstruck: for campaigns, the flow would look like ' "const game config which has a list of campaigns + input from mp dialogs, in particular campaign and difficulty level selection" => "reload game config for the selected campaign, new const game level" + "input from other mp dialogs to pick a starting scenario, and then another dialog for side, faction, and leader selection" => level config' 20130618 15:13:14< Crab_> thunderstruck: you can use current dialogs where you don't need to change them much, but I was thinking about the new dialogs that you'll eventually need to code, but for now we'll be ok with a stub/dummy 20130618 15:15:56< Crab_> thunderstruck: most important is to get the config transitions right, to get proper read-only input data for the dialogs (e.g. the list of starting points for a campaign) 20130618 15:15:56< Crab_> thunderstruck: the dialogs can be later adapted 20130618 15:16:21< thunderstruck> Crab_: The last time I talked with fabi and lipkab, we decided to that there could be a "Switch to" button which would change the current "maps menu" from stand-alone scenarios to campaigns and vice-versa. 20130618 15:16:22-!- Alarantalara [~Adium@CPEc0c1c09e8055-CM00252eac6d62.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 15:17:17< thunderstruck> If that would still be something to which others would agree, the only new dialog I would neeed would be select starting scenario dialog. 20130618 15:17:44< Crab_> thunderstruck: good. doing that directly would require you to do a big change the maps menu dialog, and it can be done if you agree with libkab that you'll work on that file for a while change it a lot. 20130618 15:18:48< thunderstruck> Crab_: I actually already implemented "Switch to" button in a hacky fashion. 20130618 15:18:52< thunderstruck> as part of my demo. 20130618 15:19:28< Crab_> thunderstruck: so, if you can get "go ahead, we will not have merge troubles if you work on the maps menu dialog now", that'll be enough to start working on it 20130618 15:20:02< thunderstruck> Crab_: and personally, I wouldn't go for a new dialog to select a starting scenario for a campaign. 20130618 15:20:09< thunderstruck> 1) new dialogs means more clicks 20130618 15:20:24< thunderstruck> 2) usually people would want to start from the 1st scenario 20130618 15:20:41< LordBob_> vultraz: I'm back 20130618 15:21:03< thunderstruck> 3) the drop-down box or similar in mp options window would help to avoid 1) 20130618 15:21:39< Crab_> thunderstruck: note that in order to show the list of scenarios or to show the scenario-specific options, you'll need to reload the game config for a new campaign (with a campaign define set), which can take a small but noticeable amount of time 20130618 15:24:52< Crab_> thunderstruck: so, you cannot simply click on a campaign in the maps dialog, then select the difficulty, then select the starting scenario - there would be a pause before the list of scenarios is available (unless you ask the user to add some extra metadata to campaign definition, describing all the starting points in advance) 20130618 15:25:00< thunderstruck> Crab_: well, in a way I imagine how things would look like, mp create screen would not require scenarios data from campaign 20130618 15:25:09< thunderstruck> Crab_: because options would be in different window 20130618 15:25:18< Crab_> thunderstruck: yes, you're right 20130618 15:25:30< thunderstruck> Crab_: and it would not display a map for campaigns, but a picture (can't remember how those a called) 20130618 15:26:37< Crab_> thunderstruck: so, then, the first step is to change the 'maps menu' dialog to have the lists of maps and list of scenarios, but not depend on actual scenario data for campaigns. right? 20130618 15:27:53< thunderstruck> Crab_: well, there would be two use cases: stand-alone scenario and campaign 20130618 15:28:15< thunderstruck> for stand-alones everything would be similar, except that options would be moved to new window 20130618 15:28:45< Crab_> for stand-alone scenarios, we'll need the scenario data to display the metadata(description/images/etc). for campaigns, that metadata would come from the [campaign] tag 20130618 15:28:53< thunderstruck> for campaigns, after campaign is selected, the difficulty dialog would pop-up and then after difficulty is selected, we could load game config with appropriate defines 20130618 15:29:24< thunderstruck> and then in mp options we could switch between starting scenarios because we have all the information we need 20130618 15:29:36< Crab_> so, after loading the game config with appropriate defines, go to options dialog to select the options, in particular, the starting scenario of the campaign 20130618 15:29:41< Crab_> yes, looks good 20130618 15:30:12< Crab_> and then, as the last step, there'll be the side selection dialog, both for standalone scenarios and for mp campaign scenarios 20130618 15:30:29< thunderstruck> Crab_: yes, moving options to new window solves most "we don't have enough information" problem 20130618 15:30:37< thunderstruck> solves "we * 20130618 15:32:06< thunderstruck> By the way, maps menu isn't a dialog, IIRC. 20130618 15:32:35< Crab_> thunderstruck: maps menu like this one? http://taufanlubis.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/linux-game-battle-for-wesnoth04.png 20130618 15:33:22< thunderstruck> Crab_: yes, it is "maps_menu_" in mp create. 20130618 15:33:36< thunderstruck> Although, I should renamed it later :) 20130618 15:33:41< thunderstruck> rename it* 20130618 15:37:21< Crab_> thunderstruck: ok, here's a more recent screenshot of the new proposed changes - http://forums.wesnoth.org/download/file.php?id=61664&mode=view 20130618 15:37:55< Crab_> thunderstruck: but I don't know in what shape the code actually is 20130618 15:39:41< Crab_> thunderstruck: ideally, we want to change this dialog a bit once it's ready, to add support for mp campaigns, to make sure that campaigns are visible, and a new game config is properly loaded when someone selects a MP campaign and selects difficulty, and goes to next dialog 20130618 15:39:59< Crab_> (and we'll also need to go back to previous config if someone goes back to this dialog) 20130618 15:40:37< Crab_> you already have the code to load a new config for the campaign in 1-2 lines, via resources::game_config_manager 20130618 15:42:45< Crab_> so, you'll need to make sure that the campaigns are visible in the list 20130618 15:43:13< Crab_> and that should be easy (as in your demo, but based on slightly different code) 20130618 15:43:31< thunderstruck> Crab_: yes, that is not a problem. 20130618 15:44:03< thunderstruck> Crab_: oh, but there is also this dependency manager 20130618 15:44:37< Crab_> sorry, I'll have to read the code to comment on it 20130618 15:44:54< Crab_> so, nothing that I can say about it now :) 20130618 15:45:17< thunderstruck> Crab_: no problem. I have to read a lot code myself :) 20130618 15:46:14< thunderstruck> I think it would be the best to take lipkab's changes and start working from them if they don't have major flaws. 20130618 15:46:43< Crab_> ok :) so, then, read lipkab's code and figure out what changes are necessary to that dialog to support campaigns (with the idea that this dialog will work only with campaign metadata, and as part of mp_game_settings, it'll return the id of the selected campaign) 20130618 15:46:54< thunderstruck> So he could later finish to work on what he wanted without any merge problems. 20130618 15:46:58< Crab_> yes 20130618 15:49:08< thunderstruck> Crab_: I have to go afk. 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20130618 19:11:01< vultraz> submit a pull request, you could get commit access if you do another (I think) 20130618 19:11:17< bumbadadabum> I'd have to figure pull requests out 20130618 19:12:15< vultraz> alright, I'll commit it for you 20130618 19:12:42< vultraz> in a bit, probably in the morning 20130618 19:13:56< bumbadadabum> I get an "Image not found" when selecting units 20130618 19:14:30-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 19:14:30-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130618 19:19:30-!- exciton [chuck-the-@89.208.169.104] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 19:26:59-!- LordBob_ [~LordBob_@2a01:e34:ee82:47e0:21e:c2ff:fe01:261f] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20130618 19:28:33-!- boucman [~rosen@wesnoth/developer/boucman] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 19:32:42-!- esr [~esr@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 19:32:42-!- esr [~esr@static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 20130618 19:32:42-!- esr [~esr@wesnoth/developer/esr] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 19:54:32-!- _8680_ [~8680@2002:44e1:f952:0:76de:2bff:fed4:2766] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20130618 20:01:19-!- _8680_ [~8680@2002:44e1:f952:0:2118:eabc:6f40:9e49] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 20:18:11-!- LordBob_ [~LordBob_@che33-7-78-232-36-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 20:22:18-!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: sea-theorem 20130618 20:22:27-!- Netsplit over, joins: sea-theorem 20130618 20:23:28-!- skyfaller_ [~skyfaller@ool-43551edd.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 20:23:35-!- skyfaller [~skyfaller@wikipedia/Skyfaller] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130618 20:26:13-!- LordBob_ [~LordBob_@che33-7-78-232-36-126.fbx.proxad.net] has left #wesnoth-dev [] 20130618 20:43:58< Ivanovic> wesbot: seen mordante 20130618 20:43:58< wesbot> Ivanovic: The person with the nick mordante last spoke 6d 23h ago. 6d 23h ago was here and on the channel #wesnoth-de with the message: Quit: Leaving 20130618 20:51:54-!- Sirp_ [d040cb0b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.64.203.11] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 21:00:50-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 21:05:01-!- irker707 [~irker@ai0867.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 21:05:01< irker707> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth-old:new_mp_create_ui 130828 / src/multiplayer_create.cpp: Make the filter box editable. http://git.io/_RTANg 20130618 21:05:01< irker707> wesnoth: Boldizsár Lipka wesnoth-old:new_mp_create_ui 21260e / src/ (7 files): RIP mp_options.?pp http://git.io/XB3Wow 20130618 21:08:51-!- lipkabb [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 21:08:51-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130618 21:09:48< lipkabb> Soliton: Please do what needs to be done: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=38958 20130618 21:12:04-!- lipkabb is now known as lipkab 20130618 21:14:21< Soliton> lipkab: it is done. 20130618 21:14:54< lipkab> Thanks. 20130618 21:16:14< _8680_> Perhaps a notice should be posted to the campaign’s forum thread? 20130618 21:16:35< lipkab> Yeah, good idea. 20130618 21:21:47-!- lipkabb [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 21:21:59-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Quit: Trallala] 20130618 21:23:49-!- lipkabb [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130618 21:24:03-!- lipkabb [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 21:28:25< lipkabb> Sirp_: Maybe Wesnoth birthday is a good enough reason to make an appearance on the forums? ;) 20130618 21:33:15-!- lipkabb [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130618 21:35:01-!- lipkabb [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 21:37:46-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 21:39:53-!- lipkabb [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20130618 21:41:45-!- lipkabb [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 21:42:49-!- lipkab [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130618 21:48:06-!- lipkabb [~lipk@host-91-147-212-174.biatv.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20130618 21:48:27-!- flix [~flix@178.77.175.34] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 22:16:51-!- trewe [~trewe@87-196-99-220.net.novis.pt] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 22:19:21-!- Gallaecio [~quassel@84.120.219.21.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20130618 22:39:12-!- LordBob_ [~LordBob_@che33-7-78-232-36-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 22:51:35-!- Octalot [~noct@host86-128-72-16.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 23:12:07-!- LordBob_ [~LordBob_@che33-7-78-232-36-126.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: LordBob_] 20130618 23:19:27-!- thunderstruck [~thunderst@cpc5-sgyl29-2-0-cust174.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20130618 23:20:32-!- Gambit [~gambit@wesnoth/developer/grickit] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 23:24:55-!- H-Hour [~H-Hour@cpc7-sgyl35-2-0-cust428.18-2.cable.virginmedia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20130618 23:27:07-!- Alarantalara [~Adium@CPEc0c1c09e8055-CM00252eac6d62.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #wesnoth-dev 20130618 23:29:56-!- trademark_ [~trademark@mne69-1-82-67-17-201.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20130618 23:37:41-!- wesbot changed the topic of #wesnoth-dev to: current repo: https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old (Please read the dev-ml for the latest status!) | http://wiki.wesnoth.org/SummerOfCodeIdeas | 196 bugs, 334 feature requests, 27 patches | Logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! 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