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20130622 04:33:08< _Coffee> ping Crab_
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20130622 05:30:55< fabi_> hi _Coffee
20130622 05:31:10< fabi_> _Coffee:  Can I help you ?
20130622 05:31:21< _Coffee> fabi_: hi
20130622 05:31:29< fabi_> :-
20130622 05:31:32< fabi_> )
20130622 05:31:36< _Coffee> yeah, I'd like to finish off with the patch for the unit facing on recruit
20130622 05:31:50< fabi_> Uh yes.
20130622 05:32:08< fabi_> Can you provide me with a github pull request ?
20130622 05:32:23< _Coffee> ?
20130622 05:32:24< fabi_> I will read it and commit if appropriate.
20130622 05:32:31< shadowm> _Coffee has commit access.
20130622 05:32:47< fabi_> My fault :-)
20130622 05:32:56< _Coffee> yeah, I have commit access but I thought I would run it past oither first :)
20130622 05:33:25< _Coffee> https://gna.org/patch/?3943
20130622 05:33:32< fabi_> No problem. I am willing to read your patch over the weekend.
20130622 05:33:53< _Coffee> the thing is that it doesn't yet turn towards the part of the map with the most action
20130622 05:34:26< _Coffee> if you remember what you mentioned last time about it...
20130622 05:34:46< _Coffee> I am thinking about making this map location a fall-back if no unit is seen outside of fog
20130622 05:35:18< fabi_> _Coffee: Well, good old gna. Would you mind to give me a githuib pull request as well?
20130622 05:35:35< _Coffee> so where would I do that?
20130622 05:36:20< _Coffee> oh, I see
20130622 05:36:27< fabi_> _Coffee: Register yourself at github (no big deal), fork wesnoth (no big deal, there is a webfrontend, just ws button)
20130622 05:36:33< _Coffee> no I got it
20130622 05:36:41< _Coffee> I just haven't got the patch complete yet
20130622 05:36:46< fabi_> Then, commit your change to your copy.
20130622 05:36:51< _Coffee> I am thinking of a score based approach
20130622 05:37:13< _Coffee> where minimum of clost enemy unit distance+enemy unit level
20130622 05:38:13< fabi_> Well, I trust you on this. Do what you thing works best, if in doubt, ask here in the channel.
20130622 05:38:48< _Coffee> I'll code that up then in a short piece of code :)
20130622 05:39:27< fabi_> Just take your time :-) There is no need to hurry. I bet, the next stable release won't happen before xmas :-)
20130622 05:42:31< _8680_> _Coffee: Note that you should put your work for a pull request on its own branch, because any commit you push to the branch you used for a pull request becomes part of that pull request.
20130622 05:42:47< fabi_> ?
20130622 05:43:06< _Coffee> too many pull request for me to easily tell either :P
20130622 05:43:23< fabi_> hell, what?
20130622 05:44:41< _8680_> Well, you should start a new branch to work on a new thing in general, but I find it more salient with GitHub pull requests.
20130622 05:45:22< _Coffee> _8680_: maybe that its a good idea
20130622 05:45:54< _Coffee> I'd like to also fix the bug where a unit is placed and it doesn't take into account locations where it can't nrmally move
20130622 05:46:03< _Coffee> it is sort of in the same vein
20130622 05:46:58< fabi_> _Coffee: Do you refer on ingame unite placement or is this also an editor thing?
20130622 05:47:20< _Coffee> when you place a unit where another unit is it goes as per castle recruitment until it finds a suitable spot
20130622 05:47:35< _Coffee> although it can be in a terrain that is not possible to be reached by movement
20130622 05:47:37< fabi_> yes, and that is a good thing
20130622 05:47:53< _Coffee> I had to code around that in an addon
20130622 05:48:02< _Coffee> but I'd like to fix this
20130622 05:48:04< fabi_> Indeed, you can shove units into mountains, for example
20130622 05:48:34< fabi_> You search for the nearest field that can be occupied?
20130622 05:48:41< _Coffee> yes
20130622 05:49:30< _Coffee> otherwise in survivals (UMC) you can force units into walls for 0% defense easily
20130622 05:50:06< _Coffee> anyway, one thing at a time
20130622 05:52:38< fabi_> _Coffee: Okay, just notice me if you have a pull request ready.
20130622 05:52:57< _8680_> You needn’t only work on one thing at a time if you use separate branches for each thing.
20130622 05:54:38< _Coffee> _8680_: there are branches for each version of wesnoth
20130622 05:54:49< _Coffee> do I make a subbranch orsomething?
20130622 05:56:16< _8680_> There’s not really such a thing as a sub-branch.
20130622 05:57:10< _8680_> What exactly I’d advise doing depends on where you are now.
20130622 05:57:27< _8680_> (For more about branches, see <http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Branching>.)
20130622 05:57:52< _Coffee> _8680_: I used branches on another project a few years back
20130622 05:58:33< _8680_> You know how to use them, then?
20130622 05:58:57< _Coffee> _8680_: well, I can google what I have forgotten :)
20130622 06:00:17< _8680_> Okay. I do highly recommend topic branches [http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Branching-Branching-Workflows#Topic-Branches].
20130622 06:01:35< _Coffee> _8680_: so you are saying I should be making a local branch?
20130622 06:02:14< _8680_> That depends on where you are now. Are you using the standard command-line Git, or a Git GUI?
20130622 06:02:28< _Coffee> _8680_: command line git
20130622 06:03:09< _8680_> _Coffee: What does `git log --format=oneline` show for you?
20130622 06:03:28< _8680_> In other words, where are you in your commit history?
20130622 06:03:49< _8680_> Are you on master? If so, does that differ from upstream master?
20130622 06:04:05< _Coffee> my repository is up to date
20130622 06:04:11< _8680_> Do you have a Wesnoth fork on GitHub?
20130622 06:04:24< _Coffee> no
20130622 06:04:40< _8680_> Have you done any work in your local repository?
20130622 06:04:47< _Coffee> it is a minor patch that gets inserted between only 2 line s of other code
20130622 06:04:58< _8680_> That you have not yet committed, that is?
20130622 06:05:03< _Coffee> not on git
20130622 06:05:06< _8680_> s/committed/pushed/
20130622 06:05:17< _Coffee> only on svn
20130622 06:05:35< _8680_> Oh, you’re still using SVN? I didn’t realize that was possible.
20130622 06:05:41< _Coffee> nono
20130622 06:05:50< _Coffee> I am now on git, but I have not committed anything for git
20130622 06:06:00< shadowm> _8680_: GitHub has a SVN-to-Git service.
20130622 06:06:12< fabi_> ;-(
20130622 06:06:14< shadowm> Not for sane people.
20130622 06:06:26< fabi_> :-)
20130622 06:06:34< _8680_> _Coffee: Do you have uncommitted changes in your local repository?
20130622 06:06:56< _Coffee> _8680_: no, because I have the changes in a patch that I am working on
20130622 06:07:33< _8680_> Okay. I advise using branches rather than patches, now that you have Git.
20130622 06:07:38< _Coffee> I get away with this because it is only a minor code insertino
20130622 06:08:29< _Coffee> so a local branch and then a git pull request if sending to someone else?
20130622 06:08:43< _8680_> In this case, it would just be a single commit on its own branch, effectively the same as a patch.
20130622 06:09:18< _8680_> Yes. Create a new branch, e.g. “coffee-some-feature”, then apply the patch.
20130622 06:09:33< _Coffee> _8680_: local for me, not on git-hub, right?
20130622 06:09:42< _8680_> _Coffee: Yes.
20130622 06:09:51< _Coffee> _8680_: got it
20130622 06:10:02< _8680_> Then after pushing that branch to your GitHub fork, you can open a pull request from it to the main wesnoth-old.
20130622 06:10:07< _Coffee> and then I can sweitch back to master if I wanted to see the latest from HEAD
20130622 06:10:11< _Coffee> (switch
20130622 06:10:18< _8680_> Yes.
20130622 06:11:12< _8680_> Once you’re using branches (or doing much at all), I advise using `fetch` rather than `pull`, which allows for more control over how remote commits are integrated into your local repository.
20130622 06:11:57< _Coffee> _8680_: ok
20130622 06:12:33< _8680_> After fetching, you will need to either `merge` the new commits with yours, or `rebase` your commits “on top of” the new ones.
20130622 06:14:10< _8680_> `rebase` results in cleaner history, but is considered rude to use on commits that you have already pushed.
20130622 06:15:21< _Coffee> makes sense
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20130622 10:48:56< mordante> servus
20130622 10:49:06< mordante> Ivanovic, you were looking for me?
20130622 10:50:29< Ivanovic> jepp, i was
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20130622 10:59:24< mordante> thanks for the C++11 link nurupo, looks interesting
20130622 11:00:00< mordante> wesbot, seen trademark
20130622 11:00:00< wesbot> mordante: Person, who 8d 12h ago used nick Trademark, last spoke 7d 10h ago.  1d 3h ago as trademark_ they left with the message: Ping timeout: 246 seconds
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20130622 12:52:14< mordante> I'm off bye
20130622 12:52:24< _Coffee> see you
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20130622 12:53:09< _Coffee> a question about git pull requests
20130622 12:53:22< _Coffee> I see a few of them there, so it can be done easily enough
20130622 12:53:47< _Coffee> if I have a local branch and committed to it, do I upload that branch to github?
20130622 12:54:09< _Coffee> it says I should fork the repository first, but I figure that might take a long time to download again
20130622 13:12:43< thunderstruck> _Coffee: If you have a fork and want to push your changes to Wesnoth's master you do something as "git push upstream <local branch>:master"
20130622 13:13:08< _Coffee> thunderstruck: hello
20130622 13:13:13< _Coffee> I don't have a fork
20130622 13:13:16< thunderstruck> _Coffee: Hi.
20130622 13:13:25< _Coffee> I figure that might take a while for such a project
20130622 13:13:45< thunderstruck> _Coffee: Do you have Wesnoth's repo?
20130622 13:13:54< _Coffee> I only have a local branch of wesnoth's repository
20130622 13:14:08< _Coffee> and my own branch with a commit or 2
20130622 13:15:22< thunderstruck> _Coffee: Well, I rather inexperienced with git myself, but I had cloned Wesnoth's repo and after I made a fork, I set up cloned repo to behave as a fork
20130622 13:15:50< thunderstruck> thunderstruck: so in case you have cloned Wesnoth's repo you don't need to download everything again. 
20130622 13:16:06< _Coffee> how does that work?
20130622 13:16:10< thunderstruck> _Coffee: but I'm not sure what happens if you only have a branch
20130622 13:16:20< _Coffee> I have the whole repository
20130622 13:16:30< thunderstruck> _Coffee: https://help.github.com/articles/fork-a-repo
20130622 13:16:40< thunderstruck> _Coffee: IIRC, just skip the cloning part
20130622 13:16:50< _Coffee> ok
20130622 13:16:54< thunderstruck> _Coffee: you just need to run some commands to set some things
20130622 13:16:55< _Coffee> will give that a shot
20130622 13:17:09< _Coffee> just don't want to download a whole copy
20130622 13:17:35< thunderstruck> _Coffee: I think you should first run a command so that your cloned repo would link to your fork on github
20130622 13:17:43< thunderstruck> _Coffee: and then you set upstream etc
20130622 13:19:31< thunderstruck> _Coffee: try this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2432764/how-to-change-a-remote-repository-uri-using-git
20130622 13:21:49< _Coffee> thanks, I'll get there in the end :P
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20130622 13:49:50< _Coffee> thunderstruck: thanks, you saved me some time, that was what I was after
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20130622 16:51:25< irker988> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master b83e68 / data/ai/micro_ais/ais/mai_goto_engine.lua: Goto MAI: Ensure that persistent data always are in WML table format http://git.io/uqJZcg
20130622 16:55:42< thunderstruck> _Coffee: you're welcome
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20130622 19:26:21< vultraz> hullo LordBob_ 
20130622 19:26:39< LordBob_> hello there.
20130622 19:26:42< vultraz> how go whatever artz you're making?
20130622 19:28:54< LordBob_> Slowly, but surely
20130622 19:29:27< LordBob_> I'm doing the ToD skies, and for that I'm working straight on the 24hrs schedule
20130622 19:29:44< LordBob_> I'll be easy to reuse them afterwards for the other schedule
20130622 19:30:02< LordBob_> (scheduleS)
20130622 19:30:17< vultraz> ya know what would be REALLY cool, is if the unit box could be animated, and we could have a gradual progression from day to night, along with random cloud cover
20130622 19:30:24< vultraz> but that's not possible
20130622 19:30:26< vultraz> :/
20130622 19:31:06< LordBob_> Depends. £Are you ready to spend the time required to animate those clouds ? :p
20130622 19:31:32< vultraz> I meant clouds generated really randomly, not with a pre-drawn image
20130622 19:31:38< vultraz> but that requires a particle generator
20130622 19:32:05< vultraz> (damn, letting my fantasies get ahead of myself again)
20130622 19:32:29< LordBob_> As for the gradual transition, this would have to be handled via ImagePath functions. Don't know if there is one that does animated transitions, or even if SDL supports them at all
20130622 19:33:13< LordBob_> As for the clouds, I'd say random shapes aren't everything. You also need to give them proper color and lighting
20130622 19:33:21< vultraz> yeah, that too...
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20130622 19:34:52< vultraz> ah well, you're premade images will probably look better than anything code could come up with
20130622 19:36:03< LordBob_> Truth be told, I wouldn't be against the idea of animated clouds.
20130622 19:36:13< LordBob_> Might even say I like the notion a lot
20130622 19:36:34< LordBob_> But it's a hell lot of work
20130622 19:36:43< vultraz> yeah
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20130622 19:37:10< vultraz> plus animations don't work there
20130622 19:38:07< LordBob_> That's nothing code can't work around, though
20130622 19:38:45< vultraz> yes, but it's a extensive process 
20130622 19:39:03< vultraz> (I really keep talking about this...but oh well)
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20130622 19:44:28< vultraz> in order to make animated clouds work, even with images, someone would need to add animation support to the theme code
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20130622 19:53:39< timotei_> Is here anyone who uses Wesnoth on Ubuntu and has it installed from Ubuntu's repository?
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20130622 22:32:16< fabi_> timotei_: here
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20130622 23:26:18< LordBob_> fabi_: online ?
20130622 23:26:27< fabi_> hi LordBob_
20130622 23:26:31< LordBob_> hi there
20130622 23:26:41< LordBob_> A quick question
20130622 23:27:28< LordBob_> Is there a limit to the number of layers that can be overlaid "on the fly", for example when displaying the ToD window
20130622 23:27:30< LordBob_> ?
20130622 23:27:48< fabi_> no
20130622 23:28:27< LordBob_> And, does it have an effect on performance (i.e should we rather aim at minimizing their number) ?
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20130622 23:30:10< fabi_> no
20130622 23:30:32< fabi_> We don't redraw the sidebar that often. 
20130622 23:31:04< LordBob_> Thing is, I'm working on cloudy skies for the ToD window, and I'm thinking it might be interesting to pick clouds randomly from a large pool, rather than have one ToD, one sky
20130622 23:31:39< fabi_> Well, just adding one or two (or even 5) more layers isn't doing any harm.
20130622 23:32:01< fabi_> It would be nice to support some sort of weather system.
20130622 23:32:16< LordBob_> Yeah, I was thinking of something like that
20130622 23:32:24< fabi_> Say a field is being rained on heavily.
20130622 23:32:51< fabi_> Then it might turn from dirt (flat) into mud (swamp) after a turn or two.
20130622 23:34:03< LordBob_> And the weather conditions might also have an effect on some units in scenarios
20130622 23:34:16< LordBob_> Yeah, there's definitely potential in there
20130622 23:34:53< fabi_> Strong wind will force flying units to stay on ground.
20130622 23:35:15< LordBob_> What I'll do is draw a variety of clouds/weather conditions in three sets: day, night, dawn/dusk
20130622 23:35:42< LordBob_> And provide them in separate layers
20130622 23:35:49< LordBob_> Err, separate images
20130622 23:36:27< fabi_> I am currently applying the color shift a tod does on terrain/units on the terrain image in the unit box as well.
20130622 23:36:51< fabi_> Don't you think that might work for the clouds as well?
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20130622 23:38:16< LordBob_> It might be better if it does, indeed: if everything but the clouds is colorshifted, there's a risk they will look out of place
20130622 23:42:47< fabi_> I thought more about saving you 3 times more work for doing cloud images.
20130622 23:43:26< fabi_> Not to talk about special schedules which different lightning conditions.
20130622 23:44:02< fabi_> Say a UMC designer wants to have a setting similar to the Pandora moon from that awful Avatar movie.
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