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20130618 00:56:28< Alikexhi> Is there a wesnoth bugzilla somewhere ?
20130618 00:57:23< fabi__> Alikexhi: Yes, bugs.wesnoth.org
20130618 00:57:50< shadowm> It's not a bugzilla, though.
20130618 01:01:39< Alikexhi> maybe you know this bug ?
20130618 01:01:40< Alikexhi> http://postimg.org/image/iq4jaf57r/
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20130618 01:04:02< shadowm> Since I'm too lazy to do a pixel-by-pixel comparison of the Troll Whelp labeled "nice bug", could you maybe describe the bug in question?
20130618 01:10:59< Alikexhi> dwarf transform into troll
20130618 01:11:05< Alikexhi> mbut only on planning mode
20130618 01:11:15< Alikexhi> when ction is executed it becomes dwarf again
20130618 01:12:14< Alikexhi> but if another action is planned by this berkserker, he appears again as a troll
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20130618 06:46:32< d4rch0n> I have a question regarding rights to use the Wesnoth graphics. I'm making a game and using the graphics.. As long as I release it under GPL, this is legal correct?
20130618 06:46:42< d4rch0n> I could distribute it freely?
20130618 06:48:48< celticminstrel> Are the graphics CC?
20130618 06:49:03< celticminstrel> Creative Commons?
20130618 06:49:20< d4rch0n> I'm not sure. I thought everything was released under GPL
20130618 06:49:59< celticminstrel> Well, if that's the case, then yes.
20130618 06:50:23< celticminstrel> But I don't know if it's the case, so you'll have to wait for someone else on that.
20130618 06:50:28< d4rch0n> ok thanks
20130618 06:50:56< celticminstrel> If they're Creative Commons, it's probably safe as well; just note that you'd have to attribute your source.
20130618 06:51:06< celticminstrel> In that case.
20130618 06:51:19< d4rch0n> Okay, I'd definitely do that anyway.
20130618 06:51:33< celticminstrel> Well, if it's GPL, you're not required to. :P
20130618 06:51:43< _8680_> Everything in Wesnoth is under the GNU GPL.
20130618 06:51:45< celticminstrel> But yeah, it's nice to do it no matter what.
20130618 06:51:52< d4rch0n> Hehe, I'll definitely give credit where it's due.
20130618 06:51:58< celticminstrel> Okay, so you're good, then, I guess.
20130618 06:52:00< d4rch0n> Thanks, great. 
20130618 06:52:39< _8680_> (I’ve also used Apache 2 on some of my stuff, but I don’t know of anyone else who does that.)
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20130618 06:53:52< _8680_> (That ^ is solely scripts, though, not graphics.)
20130618 06:54:18< d4rch0n> Yeah, I have no idea how it works with graphics or sound.
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20130618 06:55:02< d4rch0n> All I know is the wesnoth art is way better than anything I could draw.
20130618 06:55:21< d4rch0n> Alright, thanks guys. Back to my Wesnoth rip-off
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20130618 17:11:31< ReNoM> hi all
20130618 17:12:59< sea-theorem> hi eRNMo
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20130618 19:24:27< alexandergranase> Hello, i have a question can someone help me
20130618 19:25:36< thunderstruck> alexandergranase: Hi. Just ask your question and someone will reply if they can help you.
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20130618 20:10:47< tahsinjahinkhali> Guys, I need some help.
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20130618 20:11:49< bumbadadabum> tahsinjahinkhali: What do you need help with?
20130618 20:12:25< knyghtmare> Well, Wesnoth doesn't run properly in fullscreen
20130618 20:12:43< bumbadadabum> be more specific
20130618 20:12:46< knyghtmare> only a quarter of the screen is hown
20130618 20:12:52< knyghtmare> *shown
20130618 20:13:02< bumbadadabum> have you looked at Settings/Resolution?
20130618 20:13:47< knyghtmare> Yes, Doesn't fix the problem in any resolution. Wesnoth worked fine in my old macbook
20130618 20:13:59< bumbadadabum> OS/version?
20130618 20:14:13< knyghtmare> Mac OS 10.8.4
20130618 20:14:32< bumbadadabum> is this on 1.10 or 1.11?
20130618 20:14:43< knyghtmare> 1.10.6
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20130618 20:15:15< bumbadadabum> I recommend you ask Alarantalara
20130618 20:15:23< knyghtmare> By PM?
20130618 20:15:30< bumbadadabum> or on IRC
20130618 20:15:36< bumbadadabum> wesbot: seen Alarantalara
20130618 20:15:37< wesbot> bumbadadabum: The person with the nick Alarantalara last spoke 3d 3h ago.  4h 12m ago they were seen quitting on the channels #wesnoth-dev and #wesnoth-umc-dev with the message: Quit: Leaving.
20130618 20:16:21< bumbadadabum> I don't have a mac anymore, and didn't use fullscreen when I did, so I sadly cannot help you with this
20130618 20:18:09< knyghtmare> Does it bring any more info that I had the same problem with other games of the Free Game Alliance?
20130618 20:18:21< knyghtmare> Such as Xonotic and Planeshift
20130618 20:18:32< knyghtmare> Both gave the same problem as Wesnoth
20130618 20:18:49< bumbadadabum> I don't know much about this, sorry
20130618 20:19:15< Laela> i had same thing on windows and setting resolution to lowest and then normal fixed it for me
20130618 20:19:29< knyghtmare> Okay, I shall contact Alarantalara then.
20130618 20:19:50< knyghtmare> resolution to lowest?
20130618 20:20:00< knyghtmare> I will try that 
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20130618 20:22:23< knyghtmare> Tried that. Fullscreen works properly unto 1280x800, then the problem starts...
20130618 20:22:49< _8680_> I believe the problem is that the version of Simple DirectMedia Layer (SDL — which provides Wesnoth’s fullscreen functionality) that Wesnoth uses uses, on Mac, an *ancient* fullscreen interface, which has been removed from Mac OS 10.8 (or 10.7?).
20130618 20:24:11< knyghtmare> Mac OS 10.8 I think. Wesnoth worked properly on Mac OS 10.7
20130618 20:24:31< celticminstrel> It does, yes.
20130618 20:24:49< celticminstrel> I can't upgrade to 10.8 without getting a new computer. :/
20130618 20:25:09< bumbadadabum> Don't
20130618 20:25:20< bumbadadabum> 10.8 isn't worth it in my opinion
20130618 20:25:26< celticminstrel> I have no plans to in the near future, but why?
20130618 20:25:27< bumbadadabum> I like 10.6.8 much better
20130618 20:25:37< celticminstrel> I like 10.7.
20130618 20:25:43< bumbadadabum> 10.7 is ok
20130618 20:26:01< celticminstrel> Part of the reason I have no plans to upgrade in the near future is that I want a Mac Pro but it's totally not worth it.
20130618 20:26:32< knyghtmare> New Macs come with 10.8 pre-installed nowadays....
20130618 20:27:14< celticminstrel> The Mac Pro is not worth its cost, so if I do ever get a new Mac it'll probably end up being either a Mini or a Hackintosh. :/
20130618 20:27:49< knyghtmare> So, back to my problem, how do get fullscreen to work at higher resolutions?
20130618 20:28:03< bumbadadabum> I made the switch from Mac to Linux a while back
20130618 20:28:18< celticminstrel> Does it at least work windowed?
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20130618 20:28:32< bumbadadabum> Windowed is better in every way for me
20130618 20:28:34< knyghtmare> yes
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20130618 20:29:06< celticminstrel> Does it work if you run in windowed but resize the window to fill the screen?
20130618 20:29:15< celticminstrel> You can resize it arbitrarily by dragging at the corners.
20130618 20:29:19< knyghtmare> yep
20130618 20:29:26< bumbadadabum> celticminstrel: or pressing the green plus
20130618 20:29:41< knyghtmare> I'm currently doing that
20130618 20:29:52< celticminstrel> Ah, but you'd prefer true fullscreen, I guess.
20130618 20:30:03< celticminstrel> Sadly, I have no idea how to help, sorry. :/
20130618 20:30:12< celticminstrel> Other than the suggestion I just made.
20130618 20:30:29< knyghtmare> I know, but a solution will turn up
20130618 20:30:35< knyghtmare> eventually...
20130618 20:33:19< celticminstrel> Alarantalara is the one who makes the Mac builds of Wesnoth, if I recall correctly.
20130618 20:34:00< knyghtmare> I shall contact him, as I said before
20130618 20:36:50 * celticminstrel just meant to clarify why him. >_>
20130618 20:37:15< bumbadadabum> celticminstrel: He is
20130618 20:38:58< knyghtmare> chat with you all later...It's midnight in my place
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20130618 20:47:36< UukGoblin> where can I find a list of things that give me experience? I could only find that killing a unit gives 8 * level XP, but other actions give them too
20130618 20:50:57< celticminstrel> Attacking a unit gives XP equal to the enemy's level.
20130618 20:51:05< celticminstrel> Assuming you survive, of course.
20130618 20:51:20< celticminstrel> You get no experience for attacking level 0 units, but 4 XP for killing them.
20130618 20:51:40< celticminstrel> I think that's the only standard source of experience, though presumably campaigns could award experience for anything they want.
20130618 20:52:54< UukGoblin> is that per a successful "slash" or just once per attack? I.e. if my unit has a 10-4 attack, hits twice and misses twice against a lvl1 opponent - does it give it 1xp or 2?
20130618 20:55:23< celticminstrel> It doesn't matter whether you hit or how many strikes you get. It's one XP per enemy level each time you order the unit to attack something and it survives.
20130618 20:56:43< UukGoblin> cool thanks
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20130618 21:04:50< zookeeper> attacking == taking part in combat with (both attacked and defender gets xp)
20130618 21:05:06< zookeeper> s/attacked/attacker
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20130618 21:11:22< celticminstrel> Oh, yeah, you also get the XP when someone attacks you.
20130618 21:11:28< celticminstrel> Forgot that detail. >_>
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20130618 21:17:54< UukGoblin> cool :-)
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20130618 21:58:30< alexandergranase> I absolutely love this game :)
20130618 21:59:22< jetrel_laptop> <3
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20130618 22:17:37< UukGoblin> gah
20130618 22:18:04< UukGoblin> in 1.10.3, I hit <ctrl>-<space> without first executing all my planned actions
20130618 22:18:26< UukGoblin> and then on the computer's turn, it attacked my unit that was in a tile before executing that action (no longer there)
20130618 22:18:30< UukGoblin> and now it all froze :-\
20130618 22:18:53< UukGoblin> had to cancel my action and it unfroze
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20130618 22:20:32< UukGoblin> \o/ victory
20130618 22:20:55< UukGoblin> that decoy with that footpad was quite accidental - it fished the Dark Adept out of between two strong skeletons
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20130618 23:34:18< UukGoblin> my lancer didn't upgrade to level 3 :-/ got healed but it's still on 2 :-(
20130618 23:35:03< _8680_> UukGoblin: Not all units can advance to level 3.
20130618 23:36:13< _8680_> A unit type’s manual page will show what unit types it can advance to, if any.
20130618 23:39:37< zookeeper> lancers are so easy to get killed that you'll want them to remain easy to replace :p
20130618 23:45:24< UukGoblin> that's a shame
20130618 23:45:54< UukGoblin> knights seem like better value for money then
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20130618 23:53:57< zookeeper> UukGoblin, lancers have a higher max damage output and are easier to replace
20130618 23:54:02< zookeeper> and faster too
20130618 23:55:20< zookeeper> grand knight 17-2 vs lancer 12-3
20130618 23:58:55< zookeeper> that's 34 damage at lvl3 vs 36 at lvl2... so i'd say the lancer is definitely better value for money than a knight, unless you particularly need blade or the ability to _not_ charge
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