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20130621 00:19:17< UukGoblin> hm
20130621 00:19:25< UukGoblin> couldn't recruit, even though I had money and leaders and everything
20130621 00:19:39< UukGoblin> saved, quit the game, loaded - and it worked
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20130621 00:26:18< fabi> UukGoblin: Which campaign? What version of the game?
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20130621 00:33:29< UukGoblin> 1.10.3, LoW Ka'lian under Attack
20130621 00:33:52< UukGoblin> I have the save, but it won't reproduce the bug
20130621 00:34:15< bumbadadabum> UukGoblin: did you use ctrl+r or the right-click menu?
20130621 00:34:27< UukGoblin> bumbadadabum, I think I tried both
20130621 00:34:48< UukGoblin> it let me choose a unit to recruit, and then nothing happened - no error message, the unit just didn't appear
20130621 00:35:04< bumbadadabum> I sometimes have a bug where ctrl+r didn't make the manu appear
20130621 00:35:06< UukGoblin> money wasn't taken either
20130621 00:35:08< bumbadadabum> *menu
20130621 00:35:13< bumbadadabum> this I've never seen
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20130621 00:40:53< Laela> when hotkey doesnt work then i just use alt+tab until it does
20130621 00:42:12< UukGoblin> just happened again
20130621 00:43:04< UukGoblin> nothing new in the console... last two things logged were: 
20130621 00:43:11< UukGoblin> 20130620 23:19:03 error display: Tile at -999,-999 isn't on the map, can't scroll to the tile.
20130621 00:43:22< UukGoblin> can I debug this somehow? :-]
20130621 00:44:05< UukGoblin> neither ctrl-r nor right-clicking works, and I can't recruit neither an archer nor fighter
20130621 00:45:05< UukGoblin> ah... exited planning mode
20130621 00:45:07< UukGoblin> and it worked
20130621 00:45:13< UukGoblin> so only bugs out in planning mode it seems
20130621 00:45:50< fabi> UukGoblin: Would you please fill a bug report at bugs.wesnoth.org and add the savefile?
20130621 00:46:25< UukGoblin> fabi, ok, but not today
20130621 00:46:33< UukGoblin> going to bed soon
20130621 00:46:55< fabi> UukGoblin: Sure, take your time. It is important to add an exact description how to reproduce the problem.
20130621 00:47:13< UukGoblin> yeah I'll try to reproduce it exactly, tomorrow or Saturday :-)
20130621 00:47:39< UukGoblin> also, the bastards are recruiting level 2 units straight away, this is unfair! ;-[
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20130621 00:49:42< fabi> UukGoblin: :-) But this is common in most mainline campaigns. Only a few beginner campaigns restrict the recruitment of the ai to lvl1 units on easy.
20130621 00:49:58< fabi> UukGoblin: And only on early scenarios.
20130621 00:50:27< fabi> UukGoblin: You have to compensate for the fact that the ai does not have the possibility to recall higher level units.
20130621 00:51:45< UukGoblin> yeah yeah
20130621 00:51:49< UukGoblin> ;-[
20130621 00:51:59< UukGoblin> it's OK
20130621 00:52:02< UukGoblin> I'm playing on hard
20130621 00:52:06< UukGoblin> let him try his best
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20130621 01:12:21< Aristosseur> hello
20130621 01:12:31< Aristosseur> can anyone tell me how to fix this: http://i.imgur.com/FAf5WqG.jpg
20130621 01:12:46< Aristosseur> cleared cache and reinstalled the scenario but I had the same problem
20130621 01:18:21< Laela> sure this isnt scenario problem?
20130621 01:18:38< Laela> from chat seems other player had something similar
20130621 01:21:21< Aristosseur> nah it's fine on his
20130621 01:21:22< Aristosseur> http://i.imgur.com/pUyyMJ0.jpg
20130621 01:21:57< fabi> Aristosseur: I have seen this bug before, I think in a thread on the forum. Most likely in the technical support section.
20130621 01:22:05< Laela> that one reminds me of TLU, but i dont know how to fix whatever you have
20130621 01:22:15< Aristosseur> I searched missing sprites but didn't get anything of a fix
20130621 01:22:19< fabi> Aristosseur: Which platform are you playing on?
20130621 01:22:28< Aristosseur> winxp 1`.10.6 eng
20130621 01:24:02< fabi> Aristosseur: Hmmm, I thought it was on macosx, but that might not be relevant.
20130621 01:24:15< fabi> Aristosseur: I have seen that you already posted on the forum.
20130621 01:24:53< fabi> Aristosseur: Let's see if there are any responses.
20130621 01:25:08< fabi> Aristosseur: If no solution is found, please fill a bug report at bugs.wesnoth.org
20130621 01:25:36< Aristosseur> very old instance
20130621 01:25:38< Aristosseur> unanswered
20130621 01:25:39< Aristosseur> http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37066
20130621 01:27:22< shadowm> Graphics controller and drivers?
20130621 01:30:53< Aristosseur> http://i.imgur.com/Q8um6eV.png
20130621 01:31:50< shadowm> Hm, so an entirely different manufacturer.
20130621 01:32:51< shadowm> Could you include that in your post? Unfortunately we don't have anyone on the team on Windows with the expertise to look into the issue, but maybe someone could eventually figure it out.
20130621 01:34:01< Laela> What is that addon name? it looks interesting
20130621 01:34:26< Aristosseur> altaz marines, it's really goo
20130621 01:34:28< Aristosseur> d
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20130621 10:18:37< Evropi> hey there
20130621 10:18:43< Evropi> need a good MP campaign
20130621 10:18:49< Evropi> preferably supports 3p
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20130621 10:30:59< UukGoblin> MP campaign? would that be co-op/
20130621 10:31:14< Evropi> well, yeah UukGoblin 
20130621 10:31:28< Evropi> how else would it be MP :P
20130621 10:31:47< Evropi> and be a campaign
20130621 10:31:48< UukGoblin> deathmatch, free-for-all, capture-the-flag or sth?
20130621 10:31:58< UukGoblin> I haven't played MP yet
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20130621 11:23:40< Evropi> I need help
20130621 11:23:48< Evropi> so I had devel version installed
20130621 11:23:54< Evropi> which I compiled from source
20130621 11:24:00< Evropi> I deleted the folder
20130621 11:24:15< Evropi> now I downloaded stable as some of my friends had stable
20130621 11:24:27< Evropi> ran make on it, was fine
20130621 11:24:33< Evropi> make install failed
20130621 11:24:41< Evropi> tried running it, exited before even getting to the intro
20130621 11:24:45< Evropi> What do I do?
20130621 11:28:53< shadowm> Are you using cmake?
20130621 11:30:04< Evropi> yeah
20130621 11:30:28< Evropi> I went into /usr/local/ and deleted all the things it placed everywhere
20130621 11:30:34< Evropi> now hoping it will compile with scons
20130621 11:30:37< Evropi> can't you people just make a tar.gz -.-
20130621 11:30:44< shadowm> Okay, then you need to help Wesnoth a little. With cmake you'll usually create a subdir to build Wesnoth in it and the game doesn't really detect that and it will just bail out on startup since it can't find the data files on the current dir.
20130621 11:31:07< Evropi> oh god what have I done ;_;
20130621 11:31:37< shadowm> So if you have built under a directory named cmakebuild or something inside the source tree you need to pass '..' (without the quotes) to Wesnoth at the end of the command line to point it to the parent dir.
20130621 11:32:06< Evropi> aww crap
20130621 11:32:13< Evropi> the "INSTALL" file didn't say that
20130621 11:32:21< Evropi> oh well, it's deleted now anyway
20130621 11:32:23< shadowm> Also, if make succeeded but make install (which is optional) failed, odds are you are trying the latter without administrative privileges (e.g. sudo or su).
20130621 11:32:30 * Evropi hopes the scons build will work
20130621 11:32:44< Evropi> nah I did it with sudo
20130621 11:32:55< Evropi> come to think of it, I think it *did* install
20130621 11:32:57< Evropi> but still
20130621 11:32:59< Evropi> when I ran it
20130621 11:33:06< Evropi> it exited due to some AI thing
20130621 11:33:17< shadowm> It was looking at the wrong data dir for the wrong version then.
20130621 11:33:43< shadowm> Or some other thing that could have been properly diagnosed with the terminal output and some help.
20130621 11:33:59< Evropi> well, it recommends you build in a separate folder in INSTALL so that makes sense I suppose
20130621 11:34:24< shadowm> Anyway, scons by default will leave the target executables at the root of the source tree, so Wesnoth will be able to detect its data dir automatically when run from there.
20130621 11:36:57< Evropi> that's nice
20130621 11:37:06< Evropi> you should probably change the INSTALL file instructions then
20130621 11:38:08< shadowm> Strictly speaking, make install can be run as any other user if the installation prefix can be modified by them.
20130621 11:39:44< Evropi> no, you need root privileges for it to work
20130621 11:39:50< Evropi> oh uhh
20130621 11:39:52< Evropi> I see what you mean
20130621 11:40:03< Evropi> but still, most people following that guide are NOT programmers (me)
20130621 11:40:32< Evropi> so they wouldn't known to fiddle with those parameters
20130621 11:40:35< Evropi> know*
20130621 11:40:57< shadowm> It's not a programmer thing.
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20130621 16:42:31< Evropi> anyone got a good 4 player or more multiplayer scenario? Preferably co-operative
20130621 16:43:27< bumbadadabum> SX is good
20130621 16:43:43< bumbadadabum> if that's your sort of thing
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20130621 16:46:35 * zookeeper would like to manage to bring BoL up-to-date again
20130621 16:46:50< bumbadadabum> zookeeper: BoL?
20130621 16:46:57< zookeeper> brotherhood of light
20130621 16:47:00< zookeeper> the 4 white mages thing
20130621 16:47:06< bumbadadabum> yeah, I remember that one
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20130621 17:01:00< fabi> zookeeper: Isn't it a Bob the Mighty?
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20130621 17:45:16< zookeeper> fabi, yes
20130621 17:45:33< zookeeper> but i rewrote and maintained it for quite a while, and i doubt bob has any plans to update it.
20130621 17:48:14< fabi> zookeeper: It is not ported to 1.10?
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20130621 18:23:53< zookeeper> fabi, not that i know
20130621 18:26:22< fabi> zookeeper: And the latest version is a 1.8 or earlier?
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20130621 18:46:34< zookeeper> fabi, yeah, 1.8
20130621 18:47:16< fabi> zookeeper: Shouldn't be that much of a problem, maybe you just ask for help on the forum. There are enough skilled people out there willing to help.
20130621 18:48:50< fabi> zookeeper: I know you can easily do it yourself, but I wouldn't spend time on a task that can be done by less skilled people as well.
20130621 18:56:36< zookeeper> fabi, asking for help tends to be more work than just doing it myself because i'd have to review their changes anyway
20130621 18:57:16< fabi> zookeeper: Is BoL that complicated?
20130621 18:58:01< fabi> zookeeper: The changes between 1.8 and 1.10 aren't that heavy, are they? Most likely it is enough to run wmllint and invest only a little extra work.
20130621 18:58:12< zookeeper> i guess
20130621 18:58:57< fabi> zookeeper: Anyway, I wish you luck with it, I remember BoL to be a nice addon.
20130621 19:00:38< zookeeper> when you spend the bulk of your time on other projects, it's always kinda hard to get to work on ones you haven't touched in a while (in this case wesnoth) even though you know it'd be easy and simple once you start on it.
20130621 19:01:55< fabi> Which other projects are you involved in? Another game or your daily work?
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20130621 19:05:45< zookeeper> another game
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20130621 19:07:27< fabi> zookeeper: Can you give me an URL?
20130621 19:08:36< zookeeper> sure, http://swc.hard-light.net/
20130621 19:09:35< fabi> zookeeper: cool, freespace2 conversion. Have you seen the Wing Commander conversion based on freespace?
20130621 19:09:57< zookeeper> yeah, but i haven't really felt like trying it
20130621 19:10:06< zookeeper> diaspora (the BSG TC) is really cool though
20130621 19:11:15< fabi> zookeeper: Yes, that one is cool as well. I am following the development even before the split with "Beyond the red line" was made.
20130621 19:12:00< zookeeper> right
20130621 19:12:42< fabi> zookeeper: The demo for "BtrL" was already promising. It made already a lot of fun.
20130621 19:12:58< zookeeper> yeah, it had some impressive stuff
20130621 19:13:33< zookeeper> diaspora even more so
20130621 19:13:46< fabi> zookeeper: But I didn't manage to start the ship the last time I tried Diaspora. You seem to need some shortcut for triggering the start sequence, couldn't figure out how to do so with my German keyboard.
20130621 19:14:09< zookeeper> oh :/
20130621 19:14:36< fabi> Tried for half an hour and searched the internet. That was really frustrating.
20130621 19:14:50< zookeeper> huh. was that right after the mod
20130621 19:14:53< zookeeper> 's launch?
20130621 19:15:03< zookeeper> i'd imagine that to be the most FAQ
20130621 19:15:21< fabi> I guess so. It was at least half 3/4 year ago.
20130621 19:15:29< fabi> half or
20130621 19:16:32< fabi> Maybe it is time to give it another try.
20130621 19:16:40< zookeeper> right. i think the newer version fixes some issues, but if that one still happens, i can find the answer for you :P
20130621 19:17:00< fabi> Okay, I will try again right away.
20130621 19:19:21< fabi> zookeeper: It looks like the download is still at the same version, R1, right?
20130621 19:23:40< zookeeper> yeah
20130621 19:23:50< fabi> zookeeper: Oh, I can't try it. My graphic card is too weak... :-(
20130621 19:24:09< zookeeper> i don't recall if the updates are a completely new download or patches you apply... probably the latter
20130621 19:24:12< zookeeper> really?
20130621 19:24:22< zookeeper> according to what?
20130621 19:24:36< fabi> The pcie express one died, now I am using the onboard one. It is not really useful for much OpenGL.
20130621 19:25:21< zookeeper> well you _can_ disable all the flashy stuff in the launcher if you don't mind things looking simpler
20130621 19:25:46< zookeeper> i'd think that if you disable shaders and so on, it'd run ok with integrated graphics
20130621 19:25:52< fabi> I will try.
20130621 19:26:05< fabi> Download is nearly there.
20130621 19:28:58< zookeeper> in the launcher's advanced settings, check "disable glsl (shader) support" under "troubleshoot" and probably "disable vertical sync" under "game speed". that should do it.
20130621 19:29:43< zookeeper> the in-game detail level settings ought to be much less meaningful
20130621 19:30:51< zookeeper> and you probably want to keep all of those at max level regardless, except that 5/5 "model detail" is a bit excessive and dropping that a notch or even two shouldn't hurt much
20130621 19:31:58< zookeeper> (5/5 "model detail" IIRC _octuples_ the distances at which LOD models are switched, which is ridiculous)
20130621 19:32:19< zookeeper> or at least quadruples, dunno.
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20130621 19:49:35< fabi> zookeeper: Still compiling...
20130621 19:50:01< zookeeper> compiling? O.o
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20130621 19:53:00< fabi> zookeeper: Yes, there is no linux ready to use binary.
20130621 19:53:18< zookeeper> oh, right.
20130621 19:55:47< fabi> zookeeper: Okay, made it into the launch tube. The text on the screen writes "Press '\' to signal you are ready to launch".
20130621 19:56:55< fabi> "\" is only available by pressing "right alt + ?" on my keyboard and that does nothing.
20130621 19:57:00< zookeeper> so do you have patch 1.0.3?
20130621 19:57:07< fabi> hmmmm
20130621 19:57:12< fabi> most likely not
20130621 19:57:33< zookeeper> you'll likely want that regardless of whether that fixes the issue or not
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20130621 20:01:21< zookeeper> i think it's the key left of z (which at least on finnish keyboards has < and > and |)
20130621 20:01:43< zookeeper> err, left of y on german keyboards i guess :P
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20130621 20:13:21< fabi> zookeeper: No luck. Yes, the | is left from the y. Nothing happens.
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20130621 20:37:47< zookeeper> fabi, right, that's weird. i'd suggest going to the control config screen and checking which bind has \ assigned to it and re-binding it.
20130621 20:38:20< fabi> zookeeper: I already tried that. It seems that key is hardcoded, there is no entry for it.
20130621 20:38:45< fabi> zookeeper: Switching to English keyboard layout doesn't help either.
20130621 20:39:43< zookeeper> fabi, you sure? the bind should be "set throttle to max" or "full throttle" or whatever it's called
20130621 20:40:06< zookeeper> or at least try whatever key is bound to that action
20130621 20:40:46< zookeeper> that's pretty much the answer i found
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20130621 20:42:40< fabi> zookeeper: Ah, that did it. I still searched for "|" and didn't recognize that ready for launch == full throttle.
20130621 20:42:44< fabi> zookeeper: Cool, tx :-)
20130621 20:43:03< zookeeper> yay
20130621 20:43:19< fabi> And it is fast enough with everything disabled and at a low resolution.
20130621 20:43:19< zookeeper> have fun :P
20130621 20:43:25< fabi> :-)
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20130621 23:25:29< zookeeper> fabi_, shredded many toasters yet?
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