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20130701 02:01:48< irker529> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master adb90c9113f0 / data/core/macros/ai_micro_ais.cfg: Micro AI macros: fix a mistake in comments http://git.io/lG4oyA
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20130701 03:49:51< irker529> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 7244442f4bcf / src/addon/ (manager_ui.cpp state.hpp): addon/state: Add addons_tracking_list typedef http://git.io/OokDzA
20130701 03:49:54< irker529> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master adb6dc303ce6 / src/gui/dialogs/addon/description.cpp: gui2/taddon_description: Refactor add-on name coloring logic http://git.io/5Vr1xg
20130701 03:49:57< irker529> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 92755323d169 / data/gui/default/window/addon_description.cfg: gui2/taddon_description: Add a row for listing add-on dependencies http://git.io/sf6u3Q
20130701 03:50:00< irker529> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master a5e9d3f8f2a7 / / (5 files in 3 dirs): gui2/taddon_description: Implement listing of add-on dependencies http://git.io/v6t64Q
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20130701 03:59:52< irker529> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 922958877fd9 / changelog src/addon/info.cpp: addon/info: Demote circular dependency errors to info loglevel http://git.io/GFFSpw
20130701 04:01:19< AI0867> shadowm: ^ why?
20130701 04:01:31< shadowm> Read the commit message.
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20130701 04:03:15< AI0867> what if campaign bar decides music pack foo is pretty nice and uses it too?
20130701 04:03:33< shadowm> Then it depends upon both.
20130701 04:04:45< shadowm> Of course I'm expecting people to use dependencies in a reasonable fashion.
20130701 04:05:06< shadowm> I mean, nothing stops some fool from publishing an add-on that depends upon all other add-ons anyway.
20130701 04:10:01< AI0867> which means you can't install bar without installing foo
20130701 04:11:35< shadowm> You can.
20130701 04:11:55< irker529> wesnoth: Ignacio R. Morelle wesnoth-old:master 6c86a20fb279 / src/gui/dialogs/addon/description.cpp: gui2/taddon_description: Resolve the full dependency tree for display http://git.io/7gHBxQ
20130701 04:12:23< shadowm> Add-on dependencies have never been enforced and they are all implicitly optional. The user is allowed to choose to install missing dependencies or ignore them.
20130701 04:12:28< shadowm> This wasn't my idea.
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20130701 04:59:29< irker529> wesnoth: JaMiT wesnoth-old:master dd194affaa0a / src/menu_events.cpp: Safer tracking of location when creating units via debug mode. http://git.io/UsdeLg
20130701 04:59:31< irker529> wesnoth: JaMiT wesnoth-old:master 41f881687258 / src/unit_types.cpp: Implement [base_unit] before any other processing of unit types. http://git.io/8YfBTA
20130701 04:59:33< irker529> wesnoth: JaMiT wesnoth-old:master 908f0eebed21 / changelog: Changelog entry for r56092. http://git.io/LsdP-g
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20130701 10:41:09< irker529> wesnoth: Pierre T wesnoth-old:asio_campaignd fe3dba15f228 / .travis.yml src/campaign_server/wml_request.hpp: Try to resolve compilation failures. http://git.io/owl6gw
20130701 10:41:11< irker529> wesnoth: Pierre T wesnoth-old:asio_campaignd 6e3d44415e75 / SConstruct src/SConscript: Try to remove compilation failures. http://git.io/8SLz0w
20130701 10:41:37< trademark> AI0867, thanks for the fixes, I tried with clang++ in local and it seems to work
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20130701 11:26:37< vultraz> LordBob_: around?
20130701 11:26:56< LordBob_> Yup
20130701 11:27:13< trademark> AI0867, yeah it works with both compilators \o/
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20130701 12:17:40< AI0867> shadowm: maybe we should introduce 'depends' and 'recommends'/'suggests' levels, like APT?
20130701 12:18:09< AI0867> 22:22 < AI0867> interestingly, campaignd now builds on gcc versions 4.6, 4.7 and 4.8 under both C++11 and C++03, but clang 3.2 only builds it under C++03
20130701 12:18:25< AI0867> 23:52 < shadowm> ... it is going to be called campaignd too? Come on.
20130701 12:18:27< AI0867> 23:52 < shadowm> It's not 2003.
20130701 12:18:33< AI0867> trademark: ^
20130701 12:18:36 * shadowm hits AI0867 with a rolled newspaper.
20130701 12:18:52< shadowm> AI0867: I ranted a lot about dependency tiers back in... 2012.
20130701 12:18:54< AI0867> you have a point
20130701 12:19:07< AI0867> I may have missed that
20130701 12:19:23< shadowm> I was going to work on it and then... let's say 'events' conspired to make me lose interest in doing it myself.
20130701 12:19:51< shadowm> Right now, trademark has the baton for the campaignd parade, so it's the least ideal time to work on campaignd features too.
20130701 12:20:24< shadowm> I am sure I even posted to the ML with my proposal back in the day. Actually, I'm not sure if that was in 2011 or 2012. When was 1.10 released?
20130701 12:20:39< shadowm> It was a few weeks around the 1.10.0 release.
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20130701 14:35:47< AI0867> shadowm: well, if we need to rewrite campaignd, then now may not be the ideal time
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20130701 14:38:09< AI0867> I also see a forum_user_handler dependency
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20130701 14:38:34< AI0867> which is great on wesnoth.org, but not so much everywhere else
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20130701 16:20:21< trademark> shadowm, AI0867, why are you saying that now is not a good time to rewrite campaignd?
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20130701 16:42:13< AI0867> trademark: no, I was saying that the changes required for shadowm's new format would require patching campaignd, for which it is now a bad time, due to your efforts
20130701 16:44:06< AI0867> the format is nice, but isn't fully specified yet. Maybe when some questions have been resolved I'll ask you to work it into the new campaignd (or addond, as campaignd is a legacy name from when it contained only campaigns), or possibly patch the old campaignd as a proof-of-concept.
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20130701 16:48:51< trademark> AI0867, is a new format for which parts? Is it to describe add-on?
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20130701 16:59:29< AI0867> trademark: yes, the intention is to move part of the PBL stuff to the _main.cfg
20130701 17:00:18< AI0867> this is what shadowm mailed (over a year ago): http://pastebin.com/kpcFCCMm
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20130701 18:33:57< trademark> AI0867, okay, it's nice to know which parts are subject to evolve ;)
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20130701 18:51:16< trademark> does the license shipped with the add-on is the same as the GPL? Or may the user could use a custom license?
20130701 18:52:49< Ivanovic> trademark: when you upload you have to agree that the content uploaded is licensed under the gpl
20130701 18:53:08< Ivanovic> so *at least* one license for the content is the gpl
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20130701 19:00:44< trademark> Ivanovic, ok! thanks
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20130701 21:13:46< bumbadadabum> wrong channel
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20130701 23:10:18-!- Channel #wesnoth-dev created Tue Jan 27 06:28:41 2009
20130701 23:10:37< nemo> So, does http://lua-users.org/wiki/SandBoxes bear any resemblance to sandboxing Lua does?
20130701 23:10:49< nemo> er
20130701 23:10:54< nemo> *Wesnoth* does
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20130701 23:28:02< _8680_> nemo: Wesnoth doesn’t sandbox Lua scripts; it merely doesn’t provide the `io` library and some of `os`.
20130701 23:28:13< _8680_> (Unless that counts as sandboxing?)
20130701 23:29:03< _8680_> (It also doesn’t provide `coroutine`, `debug`, and something else, I think.)
20130701 23:31:20< nemo> well. that's what I'd initially asked :)
20130701 23:31:32< nemo> specifically, if you guys blocked IO, and if so, could we crib your version of lua 
20130701 23:31:39< _8680_> (Note that I am not an engine developer, I merely have experience with Wesnoth Lua scripting.)
20130701 23:31:42< nemo> I was then told that you used sandboxing and lua sandboxing in particular :)
20130701 23:31:59< nemo> _8680_: hm.  they might still use lua sandboxing then
20130701 23:32:07< nemo> that might still match what that web page describes
20130701 23:32:17< nemo> however, if they stripped lua, that would be more drop-in for us, and certainly more convenient
20130701 23:32:44< _8680_> It’s not, as far as I know, a different version of Lua, except that the Lua library routine calls to expose the `io` library and parts of `os` were removed.
20130701 23:33:41< _8680_> I don’t know enough about the Lua C API to know whether that meant changing the Lua interpreter itself, but I don’t think so.
20130701 23:35:49< nemo> _8680_: right. so my question is...
20130701 23:35:57< nemo> are they doing that using the technique described in the link
20130701 23:36:08< nemo> or, did they take a copy of lua 5.1 or 5.2, and delete/disable chunks of it
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20130701 23:37:05< _8680_> They took a copy of Lua 5.1 (and later 5.2) and deleted/disabled chunks of it.
20130701 23:37:24< _8680_> I’ll check the Web page you referenced; it might apply too.
20130701 23:37:55< jetrel_laptop> wesbot:  seen noy
20130701 23:37:56< wesbot> jetrel_laptop: The person with the nick noy last spoke 24d 2h ago.  8d 3h ago was here and on the channels #wesnoth and #wesnoth-umc-dev with the message: Quit: noy
20130701 23:44:56< _8680_> nemo: I don’t believe any such sandboxing is used, other than not providing `io` and some of `os`, e.g. there are no protections against a Lua script looping infinitely.
20130701 23:46:56< _8680_> Ah, I forgot, `package`, `dofile`, and `require` are also not provided; they are partially replaced with `wesnoth.dofile` and `wesnoth.require`, which are like `dofile` and `require` except that they can only access files in Wesnoth’s “game data” and “user data” directories.
20130701 23:52:27< nemo> _8680_: infinite loop is NBD
20130701 23:52:33< nemo> just annoying. not actually harmful
20130701 23:53:54< _8680_> nemo: I used it as an example of something mentioned in the Web page you referenced that is not implemented in Wesnoth’s Lua subsystem.
20130701 23:54:12< nemo> _8680_: we switched to physfs last release, so file access is done through that now
20130701 23:54:27< nemo> _8680_: I'm hopeful we could just grab wesnoth's variant and drop it in w/ minor tweaking
20130701 23:55:57< _8680_> nemo: I’d think it would be easier to copy the official Lua interpreter rather than Wesnoth’s; the changes to disable a library or some of one are really quite trivial.
20130701 23:56:03< nemo> hm
20130701 23:56:10< nemo> really?
20130701 23:56:26< nemo> thought I'd go w/ something more tried 'n' true
20130701 23:57:01< _8680_> As in deleting a few statements, maybe just one, and optionally a file or two.
20130701 23:58:06< nemo> m.
20130701 23:58:08< nemo> for example?
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20130701 23:58:30< nemo> actually. do you happen to know where I'd find that in your revision history?
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