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20130707 02:24:43< irker215> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 61bd7e6e44ab / data/ai/micro_ais/ais/ (mai_goto_engine.lua micro_ais_wml_tags.lua): Goto MAI: add ignore_units= parameter https://github.com/wesnoth/wesnoth-old/commit/61bd7e6e44ab24de3e88cd8caf2536da16edd9dd
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20130707 03:13:46< irker215> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master 874eb7cafdfd / data/ai/micro_ais/scenarios/goto.cfg: Goto MAI test scenario: move ghost removal into turn end event http://git.io/ashi4A
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20130707 03:26:43< mattsc> Grammar convention question: I called the new Micro AI "Hang Out", that is, using two words, since I want it to be described by the verb 'to hang out', rather than the place (noun) where one does this.
20130707 03:26:47< mattsc> However, anything that has to do with to "go to" is always contracted into one word, including an MAI by that name.
20130707 03:27:13< mattsc> So, should I rename everything hang out/hang-out/hang_out to hangout?  Does anybody care?
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20130707 15:29:47< mordante> servus
20130707 15:31:41< mordante> Rhonda, seems http://wesnoth.debian.net/ stopped logging at the 4th of July
20130707 15:34:53< mordante> AI0867, I haven't been able to reproduce that clang warning using clang 3.3
20130707 15:35:55< mordante> wesbot seen trademark
20130707 15:35:55< wesbot> mordante: The person with the nick trademark last spoke 3d 4h ago.  2d 2h ago they left with the message: Ping timeout: 248 seconds
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20130707 16:38:39< Ivanovic> hi mordante
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20130707 17:00:45< mordante> hi Ivanovic 
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20130707 18:58:19< irker824> wesnoth: Mark de Wever wesnoth-old:master 36e211109903 / src/game_preferences_display.cpp: Use a more efficient way to clear a string. http://git.io/KhmgTA
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20130707 19:16:45< trademark> hello
20130707 19:17:31< trademark> mordante, I just read your mails
20130707 19:19:37< trademark> mordante, ping me when you'll be available :)
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20130707 19:40:27< mordante> hi trademark 
20130707 19:40:36< mordante> available now, but not very long
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20130707 19:50:16< irker824> wesnoth: mattsc wesnoth-old:master e78585586f8a / data/ai/lua/ai_helper.lua: ai_helper.put_labels: add show_coords= parameter http://git.io/vTAmDw
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20130707 20:03:09< trademark> mordante, ok
20130707 20:03:44< trademark> mordante, what is the "symbol file"?
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20130707 20:13:17< mordante> trademark, first of all what translations are we talking about?
20130707 20:14:58< trademark> mordante, translation in reply packet, such as if an error occurs : "Sorry the pbl couldn't be understand, the line XX is wrong."
20130707 20:15:36< mordante> They should be send in English and your example directly shows the need for a symbol file
20130707 20:16:05< mordante> the translation of 'line XX' needs to be translated
20130707 20:16:22< mordante> but how XX is translated, depends on the language
20130707 20:16:54< trademark> ok so the symbol files are use for the variable in the message
20130707 20:17:31< mordante> yes for example actions/move.cpp starting at 1113
20130707 20:18:04< mordante> it uses a symbols and vgettext to get the proper hotkey name
20130707 20:18:48< trademark> ok, so I should use vgettext too and send the result string?
20130707 20:19:37< trademark> about the license, why can't it be shipped with the Wesnoth client? What are the needs for a specific request?
20130707 20:19:43< mordante> no
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20130707 20:20:06< mordante> you need to send the untranslated error and a list of symbols
20130707 20:20:56< trademark> ha ok
20130707 20:21:30< mordante> something like http://paste.debian.net/14852/
20130707 20:22:01< mordante> that also means these error strings should be in the translated string database of the client
20130707 20:22:08< trademark> yep
20130707 20:22:35< mordante> which means we need to be careful when mixing different versions of the game
20130707 20:23:11< trademark> I guess it's the same problem with the multiplayer server?
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20130707 20:23:35< mordante> yeah, but I'm not sure whether we there try to translate error messages
20130707 20:24:07< AI0867> 15:34 < mordante> AI0867, I haven't been able to reproduce that clang warning using clang 3.3 <-- are you talking about the draw thing? I might be a false positive. Are there two different virtual draw functions?
20130707 20:24:16< AI0867> because their signatures don't match
20130707 20:24:35< trademark> mordante, and about the license question?
20130707 20:25:31< mordante> trademark, other addon-servers might want to use a different license
20130707 20:25:44< mordante> so rather not hard-code it in the client
20130707 20:26:50< trademark> ok
20130707 20:27:27< trademark> I forgot that this server could be use by anyone who wants
20130707 20:28:53< mordante> trademark, I will review your code another time, I prefer to do it when you're around
20130707 20:29:30< trademark> mordante, ok, I have other quick Q/A
20130707 20:29:35< mordante> ok
20130707 20:29:48< trademark> mordante, where should I put the tests? (is there a special directory in the hierarchy?)
20130707 20:30:20< mordante> yes it's called tests/
20130707 20:31:09< trademark> I don't know why I didn't see it
20130707 20:31:31< trademark> and about the stream issue, do you think my solution is acceptable?
20130707 20:33:07< mordante> AI0867, the draw indeed seems to hide a function, but a function I do not wish to use
20130707 20:33:25< mordante> AI0867, still puzzled why I don't get the warning, which clang are you using?
20130707 20:34:11< mordante> trademark, looking
20130707 20:34:25< trademark> and finally about validating each request/reply, I think that the validation files are really valuable as documentation (even if we only use it in debug mode for example).
20130707 20:35:13< mordante> seems a valid reason to add them, whether or not only in debug mode can then be decided later
20130707 20:36:35< mordante> trademark is it possible to determine whether a steambuf is busy transmitting data (and making progress) versus waiting forever?
20130707 20:37:22< mordante> if x MB is transmitted it will take some time to transmit so we need to be able to detect a stalled versus an active transmission
20130707 20:45:04< mordante> got to go now, bye
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20130707 21:51:56< A_Guy> Hey, guys, does [filter_vision] detect whether the unit is hidden?
20130707 21:52:02< A_Guy> I get the impression that it doesn't, but I could be wrong.
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20130707 22:04:21< Sapient> it should respect hiddenness
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20130707 22:26:35< trademark> AI0867, or everyone else, is there any docs for the WML validation schema? For example I put "mandatory="true"" in my schema, so I expect a failure if the key/value pair is missing, but nothing happens.
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20130707 23:51:08< AI0867> mordante: travis uses clang 3.2
20130707 23:54:47< AI0867> trademark: I don't know of any other than this: http://wiki.wesnoth.org/GSoC_2011_Sytyi
20130707 23:55:59< AI0867> which links to http://wiki.wesnoth.org/ValidationDesign and http://wiki.wesnoth.org/WML_Annotation_Format
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