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20130708 18:46:50< blarumyrran_> wesbot: seen lordbob
20130708 18:46:51< wesbot> blarumyrran_: Sorry, I don't know of lordbob.
20130708 18:46:55< blarumyrran_> wesbot: seen lordbob_
20130708 18:46:55< wesbot> blarumyrran_: The person with the nick LordBob_ last spoke 3d 14h ago.  3d 14h ago they left the channel #wesnoth-dev:
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20130708 21:08:16< BartK> Do any of the wesnoth android releases contribute their earnings back to the Wesnoth project?
20130708 21:08:27< bumbadadabum> I believe so
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20130708 22:04:06< Crendgrim> BartK: see this discussion on Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/wesnoth/comments/1hmjax/another_wesnoth_implementation_for_android/
20130708 22:04:27< BartK> that discussion is with me. :)
20130708 22:05:08< BartK> at the time I asked in here, I hadn't realized I was speaking with one of the Wesnoth devs. :)
20130708 22:07:44< Crendgrim> ah. Nevermind.
20130708 22:08:09< Crendgrim> I didn't realize lendrick was you :)
20130708 22:09:32< BartK> hehe, all good :)
20130708 22:29:43< jetrel_laptop> Gee, I knew gambit did stuff on reddit but I didn't realize he could hand out flair tags
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20130708 22:53:59< jetrel_laptop> BartK: Yeah, fwiw, apple absolutely would not do something absurd in their licensing terms to sabatoge FOSS on the app store.  They love open-source.  They happen to place other things above it in the value chain, but they absolutely don't have anything against it.
20130708 22:54:52< jetrel_laptop> I think there's a classic problem here where when something is off, people immediately assume *malice*.
20130708 22:58:24< jetrel_laptop> The big thing I think is if a choice comes down to a tossup between benefitting users, versus benefitting developers, their philosophy is to be on the user's side.  This does a bunch of things that really trip up developers, and it's easy for devs to assume that it's just because they're doing it out of spite.
20130708 23:01:38< jetrel_laptop> But in something that's not a zero-sum game, they'd always prefer to have both users *and* devs benefit.
20130708 23:05:16< jetrel_laptop> That said, there are a certain number of things they've done which are a bit ham-fisted and just are honest mistakes, but they've fixed those.  Some of them just take time to setup a good system for.
20130708 23:07:16< jetrel_laptop> (People forget for example that for the whole first year, there wasn't even an app store - you got the software that was preinstalled on the device, and that was it.)
20130708 23:09:55< jetrel_laptop> Another strong reason for this is they're really pretty conservative about security, and there are a number of decisions they've made that were done for security reasons which others pegged as being for "malicious big brother" reasons.
20130708 23:11:12< jetrel_laptop> There was for example a period of time where the built in browser got access to JIT compilation for javascript that compiled it down to machine code, and where third-party apps had to live with a slightly different version that didn't do this.
20130708 23:13:48< jetrel_laptop> From listening to a podcast where some of their browser devs were talking about this, the reason for this is that hey - you know - that's *machine code*.  They didn't want some privilege escalation compromising user apps and thus having the potential to destroy user data (or worse) - they could guarantee their own app was safe from that, but they weren't ready to sandbox the other apps correctly.
20130708 23:14:29< jetrel_laptop> But if you were to hear The Register's account of it, it was obviously because of an evil ploy to keep people away from javascript, and locked into the app store.  :/
20130708 23:17:23< jetrel_laptop> </rant>
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20130708 23:34:14< Laela> I plan to try to write [modification] that switches players factions&leaders&start positions with each other after only 1 team has any canrecruit_yes and restarts game then while keeping track of score = amount of leader kills and leader deaths of each side, possibly more later. Does anything like that already exist?
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