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20130712 10:26:06< ErSidward> hi, I've got a weird issue... sometimes after hitting "execute all actions" in planning mode, it seems to end the turn by itself even though there's still stuff I want to do, anyone know what's up with that?
20130712 10:26:24< ErSidward> I've got 1.10.3 from debian wheezy repos
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20130712 10:35:00< thunderstruck> ErSidward: you can fill a bug report here: https://gna.org/bugs/?group=wesnoth
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20130712 10:54:23< ErSidward> sweet, I'll probably do that - wanted to make sure it's just not me doing something stupid :p
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20130712 11:59:18< Necrosporus> ErSidward, though you'd better also try 1.10.6
20130712 11:59:36< Necrosporus> What if that bug is already fixed somehow ?
20130712 12:00:33< Necrosporus> thunderstruck, it's debian, so I guess it's better to be filled against debian unless it's not fixed in latest version also
20130712 12:07:14< thunderstruck> When you are submitting a bug, there is a field for a version. So, whoever who will be interested in that bug could try to reproduce it in the latest dev version.
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20130712 15:13:10< Laela> what is dev version mp channel here
20130712 15:13:58< zookeeper> #wesnoth-mp but there's hardly ever anything going on there.
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20130712 16:00:33< sur_nhm> Is it just me, or does the source code I'm getting from git weigh about 1.7 GB?
20130712 16:02:05< zookeeper> not just you
20130712 16:02:43< zookeeper> it's that big because a git clone contains all the changes ever made to every file.
20130712 16:04:57< sur_nhm> Oh my
20130712 16:05:31< sur_nhm> I'm pretty sure it wasn't that way with SVN... was it?
20130712 16:05:52< zookeeper> it wasn't
20130712 16:06:16< sur_nhm> Huh. Why did BfW move to git anyway?
20130712 16:07:11< zookeeper> makes branching and merging easier for coders, i guess. and all the cool guys are using it, too.
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20130712 16:35:54< Necrosporus> Is there a way to download only recent code?
20130712 16:36:27< zookeeper> i don't think so
20130712 16:45:55< Necrosporus> I should have reported it probably, but wesnoth 1.10.5 crashes when it tries to show filename with incorrect UTF-8 names 
20130712 16:46:09< Necrosporus> error general: Invalid UTF-8 string: "�%9D�%9F-Эл�%8C�%84�%8B в о�%81аде - п�%80ока�%87ка вой�%81к.gz"
20130712 16:46:09< Necrosporus> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'utils::invalid_utf8_exception' //  what():  std::exception // Aborted
20130712 16:48:01< thunderstruck> Necrosporus: The latest dev version has quite recent code.
20130712 16:48:06< Necrosporus> filename in hex: d0253944d02539462dd0add0bbd1253843d1253834d12538425fd0b25fd0bed1253831d0b0d0b4d0b55f2d5fd0bfd1253830d0bed0bad0b0d1253837d0bad0b05fd0b2d0bed0b9d1253831d0ba2e677a
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20130712 16:49:55< H-Hour> Necrosporus, you can create a "shallow" clone if you don't want the full history: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1209999/using-git-to-get-just-the-latest-revision
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20130712 16:52:11< sur_nhm> Huh, so if I want just the latest revision and to be able to update it, I should get a shallow clone?
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20130712 16:56:35< planetmaker> Hello. I'm looking for the landscape art. Any hint on where I need to look in the repository (once it's finished cloning)?
20130712 17:00:28< blarumyrran> do you mean big digital paintings depicting landscapes, or terrain art as in the images from which hexes of various terrains are rendered?
20130712 17:01:14< planetmaker> the latter
20130712 17:01:40< blarumyrran> data/core/images/terrain
20130712 17:01:41< blarumyrran> iirc
20130712 17:03:32< planetmaker> ah, yes, there, thanks :-)
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20130712 17:10:43< planetmaker> do there also exist the files put into the rendering process? xcf and / or blend files (or whatever tools are usually used)?
20130712 17:11:19< blarumyrran> blender is not used for anything that goes into wesnoth, afaik
20130712 17:11:42< blarumyrran> & no there is no storage of xcf's or psd's afaik
20130712 17:11:44< janebot> blarumyrran: Are you disagreeing with me? The nerve of some humans!
20130712 17:13:20< planetmaker> ah. A pity, but thanks
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20130712 20:31:26< sur_nhm> Quick question. Is 'elf' capitalised or not?
20130712 20:31:43< zookeeper> not
20130712 20:32:10 * sur_nhm rushes to fix his writing.
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20130712 20:32:21< zookeeper> IIRC, you'd only capitalize "Elves" if speaking of the race as a whole
20130712 20:34:06< sur_nhm> As in 'Elves of the forest' but 'an Irdyan elf'?
20130712 20:34:35< zookeeper> yes
20130712 20:35:07< sur_nhm> Thanks muchly
20130712 20:35:31< blarumyrran> muchly isn't a word!
20130712 20:36:44< zookeeper> blarumyrran isn't a name
20130712 20:39:52< blarumyrran> it is
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20130712 22:54:57< sur_nhm> Yet another git-related question: since git refuses to complete the clone, even with --depth=1, and a quick Google shows that git has no resuming capabilities, I wonder if there's a bundle of the source code, or whether downloading the source code from wesnoth.org would allow me to update it via git despite it not quite being the repo.
20130712 22:55:50< lipkab> sur_nhm: The sad truth is: no.
20130712 22:55:56< sur_nhm> Ugh.
20130712 22:56:28< sur_nhm> So, basically, it sucks to have an unstable connection, eh?
20130712 22:56:40< lipkab> Yeah, pretty much.
20130712 22:57:14< Gambit> sur_nhm: How long will you be around?
20130712 22:57:14< lipkab> I took me five attempts to get the repo, if that's any consort.
20130712 22:57:23< Gambit> shadowm or AI0867 may be able to help you out
20130712 22:57:37< lipkab> One interrupted at 89%...
20130712 22:57:40< sur_nhm> Now? For the next five minutes or so (it's nearly midnight here).
20130712 22:57:57< Gambit> Okay they won't be around until later unfortunately.
20130712 22:58:06< Gambit> And yeah it really sucks that git has no resuming.
20130712 22:58:15< sur_nhm> Lipkab: two got an unexpected EoF, one interrupted at ~50%, and one got stuck at 93%.
20130712 22:58:21< sur_nhm> Stuck at 93%...
20130712 22:58:27< lipkab> Welcome to Git.
20130712 22:58:32< sur_nhm> That makes me want to tear my hair out.
20130712 22:58:46< sur_nhm> And yet git is supposed to be better than SVN.
20130712 22:59:07< lipkab> It's actually better, once you managed to do the clone.
20130712 22:59:17< sur_nhm> Oh? So that's the big hurdle?
20130712 22:59:23< lipkab> Yeah.
20130712 22:59:40< sur_nhm> I'll assault it double-time, then! Not one step back!
20130712 22:59:42< sur_nhm> :P
20130712 23:00:25< sur_nhm> Though, now that I'm apparently out of my Wesbreak, perhaps I should take my old project up again and try to give the Hebrew translation of Wesnoth a normal shape.
20130712 23:00:45< lipkab> It's in fact more unstable-connection friendly, once you have the repo.
20130712 23:01:06< sur_nhm> Huh.
20130712 23:01:12< lipkab> SVN requires you connection to commit, Git does not.
20130712 23:01:32< sur_nhm> Well, I'm no dev.
20130712 23:01:46< lipkab> That's the coolest feature of Git from my limited point of view.
20130712 23:01:49< sur_nhm> Just a guy who likes spotting bugs and getting the newest art fresh out of the oven.
20130712 23:02:13< lipkab> sur_nhm: Well, for you it will make no difference I guess.
20130712 23:02:26< sur_nhm> Once I get the damn repo, yeah.
20130712 23:02:29< lipkab> "git pull" instead of "svn up", that's all.
20130712 23:02:36< sur_nhm> Indeed.
20130712 23:02:49< sur_nhm> Anyway, now's bedtime for me. G'night.
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20130712 23:03:07< Gambit> I'm amazed git lacks resume.
20130712 23:03:42< lipkab> Linus has a nice stable connection and he doesn't care about the other half of humanity :P
20130712 23:03:58< Gambit> I'm going to assume there's some Torvalds Logic™ at work here, yeah.
20130712 23:10:17< shadowm> He isn't the lead maintainer atm IIRC.
20130712 23:10:49< Gambit> Wow you were 10 minutes late shadowm.
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20130712 23:12:10< shadowm> Gambit: A wizard is never late, young Gambit.
20130712 23:12:27< Gambit> No. You are late.
20130712 23:12:32< Gambit> And if you show up late to work again, you're fired.
20130712 23:12:40< shadowm> I am your boss.
20130712 23:12:44< shadowm> You're fired.
20130712 23:12:46< Gambit> Every day you're 10-15 minutes late for your shift.
20130712 23:13:01< Gambit> At the end of the day you don't clean up for the next shift.
20130712 23:13:08< Gambit> You never do any prep work for them.
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20130712 23:13:56< Gambit> Hey shadowm, serious question... can I mail you a letter?
20130712 23:14:05< shadowm> No.
20130712 23:14:24< Gambit> Aw come on. The #minecraft ops are going to mail each other things this August.
20130712 23:14:27< shadowm> Assuming you meant snail mail.
20130712 23:14:31< Gambit> Yes.
20130712 23:14:34< shadowm> No.
20130712 23:14:40< Gambit> I bought a bunch of foil Prowling Pangolins.
20130712 23:14:41< shadowm> And I am not a #minecraft op or regular.
20130712 23:14:43< Gambit> I want to send you one.
20130712 23:15:05< blarumyrran> :3
20130712 23:16:10< zookeeper> would it be a pink and perfumed letter with lots of <3's?
20130712 23:16:47< Gambit> Yes.
20130712 23:17:01< Gambit> Every i would be dotted with a heart.
20130712 23:17:26< Gambit> The return address would be written in glue and glitter.
20130712 23:17:31< zookeeper> so cute! ^___^
20130712 23:18:17< Gambit> shadowm: You totally want this letter now, right?
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20130712 23:22:51< zookeeper> i want it
20130712 23:23:15< Gambit> A foil prowling pangolin?
20130712 23:24:01< zookeeper> i dunno what that means
20130712 23:24:17< Gambit> A shiny copy of this card: http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=26428
20130712 23:24:36< Gambit> <shadowm> I don't even play that game.
20130712 23:24:40< Gambit> Too bad.
20130712 23:25:33< zookeeper> no i don't want those
20130712 23:25:54< zookeeper> i hate collectibles and am deeply ashamed that as a kid i collected hockey cards just like everyone else
20130712 23:27:17< zookeeper> (and i think MtG counts as collectibles)
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