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20130720 11:05:31< Cyber_Rock> hi, I had a little query, the map list only shows map upto the letter "O"
20130720 11:05:43< Cyber_Rock> why aren't other maps being listed
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20130720 11:06:50< Cyber_Rock> they are listed alphabetically
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20130720 11:10:56< Cyber_Rock> can anyone help me on this matter?
20130720 11:11:06< Cyber_Rock> I am really in a fix
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20130720 11:17:38< Cyber_Rock> hi,the map list only shows map upto the letter "O"
20130720 11:17:42< Cyber_Rock> why aren't other maps being listed
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20130720 11:36:19< Cyber_Rock> please help
20130720 11:36:28< Cyber_Rock> the map list only shows map upto the letter "O"
20130720 11:36:43< Cyber_Rock> other maps are not being listed
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20130720 11:41:53< Cyber_Rock> can anyone help me
20130720 11:48:41< fabi__> Cyber_Rock: hi
20130720 11:48:57< fabi__> Cyber_Rock: Which version do you use?
20130720 11:49:11< fabi__> Cyber_Rock: And which map list? The one in the mp creation screen?
20130720 11:55:50< Cyber_Rock> yes
20130720 11:56:15< Cyber_Rock> version 1.10.6 fabi__ 
20130720 11:56:25< Cyber_Rock> mp creation screen map list
20130720 11:57:08< fabi__> Any suspicious output from the game? You need to run it on the commandline or check a log file.
20130720 11:57:49< Cyber_Rock> they were being displayed till I installed sacrificed survivial
20130720 11:58:36< fabi__> I guess there is a problem with one of the map's names included in that addon.
20130720 11:58:55< fabi__> It might cause problems with your encoding/font/whatever.
20130720 11:59:19< fabi__> Can you confirm that removing the named addon fixes the issue?
20130720 12:00:37< Cyber_Rock> no it doesn't
20130720 12:00:40< Cyber_Rock> I have tried it
20130720 12:00:57< Cyber_Rock> It seems like the list was truncated
20130720 12:00:57< fabi__> okay
20130720 12:01:18< fabi__> then let's check the output
20130720 12:01:49< Cyber_Rock> everything is present till 1 map starting from the letter O, namely orocia mod after that there are no maps listed
20130720 12:02:05< fabi__> I understand.
20130720 12:02:09< Cyber_Rock> fabi__, I don't know how to check the output
20130720 12:02:19< fabi__> Which operation system are you on?
20130720 12:02:42< Cyber_Rock> win 7
20130720 12:02:46< fabi__> hmmm
20130720 12:02:52< fabi__> I do not know about windows.
20130720 12:03:03< fabi__> Let me google.
20130720 12:03:27< Cyber_Rock> I can try debug mode, maybe it should have the debug argument
20130720 12:03:37< shadowm> Cyber_Rock: Do you know where you installed Wesnoth?
20130720 12:04:13< Cyber_Rock> shadowm, the default, program files-> Battle for Wesnoth 1.10.6
20130720 12:04:29< shadowm> Okay, browse to that location in Windows Explorer.
20130720 12:05:04< shadowm> I believe you will then see a "Show Compatibility Files" option or something like that in the toolbar; if you do, click on that.
20130720 12:05:33< shadowm> Then you should see a file named 'stderr.txt' (a text file) in the directory. That's where Wesnoth logs its output.
20130720 12:05:57< Cyber_Rock> ok
20130720 12:08:23< fabi__> Cyber_Rock: You can show us the contents of the file on pastebin.com.
20130720 12:08:50< Cyber_Rock> uhh, it is not much of a log file, just 10 lines
20130720 12:09:24< Cyber_Rock> but i'll show you
20130720 12:11:42< Cyber_Rock> http://pastebin.com/xfuhP2GP
20130720 12:12:30< Cyber_Rock> first I tried it in local game then in official server
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20130720 12:13:57< fabi__> It seems there is something wrong with your "User data directory".
20130720 12:14:02< Cyber_Rock> yes
20130720 12:14:14< Cyber_Rock> it says something like that
20130720 12:14:23< Cyber_Rock> but i can't understand what it means
20130720 12:15:56< Cyber_Rock> by the way, the maps folder is empty
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20130720 12:16:23< Cyber_Rock> and it is read-only
20130720 12:16:27< fabi__> That is fine, the folder contains maps you create with the editor.
20130720 12:16:35< fabi__> But it should not be read-only.
20130720 12:16:35< Cyber_Rock> ok
20130720 12:17:09< Cyber_Rock> but how would that affect the maps in mp creating list
20130720 12:17:14< shadowm> Do you have any other add-ons installed besides the orocia mod one?
20130720 12:18:31< fabi__> Cyber_Rock: The game merges your editor self made maps into the list.
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20130720 12:19:03< Cyber_Rock> shadowm, I have many add-ons installed, What I mean to say is that they are arranged alphabetically, and the list goes only till O, this problem started when I installed sacrifice survival, which has about 12 maps
20130720 12:19:57< Cyber_Rock> after the last map on the list there are few more maps - should be about 7-8
20130720 12:21:46< Cyber_Rock> So, I can do anything in my power to rectify the problem, although it just seems as if the list is truncated, tbh might not be correct because even if I move the other scenarios from add-ons folder (so that they are not accounted for) the map list still ends at O
20130720 12:23:16< fabi__> If you remove all addons (you do not need to delete them, move them with a file browser), does the problem still exist?
20130720 12:23:26< Cyber_Rock> fabi__, yes
20130720 12:23:43< Cyber_Rock> as I said, I moved them, I did not delete them
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20130720 12:24:06< shadowm> If you remove all add-ons you shouldn't really be seeing any maps other than the mainline ones.
20130720 12:24:12< Cyber_Rock> all in all there are 29 add-ons including all era, map sets, campaigns, scenarios and all
20130720 12:24:25< Cyber_Rock> shadowm, not all add-ons
20130720 12:24:48< Cyber_Rock> should I move all add-ons?
20130720 12:24:59< shadowm> fabi asked you whether the problem is present even after removing/moving away all add-ons.
20130720 12:25:06< Cyber_Rock> wait
20130720 12:25:37< Cyber_Rock> but how would I know, there is no mainline map after numbers
20130720 12:26:00< Cyber_Rock> they are like 2p*** and so on and so forth
20130720 12:26:14< shadowm> Maybe you know what add-ons provide the maps you are currently missing in the list? You can just keep those add-ons for the testing procedure.
20130720 12:26:28< Cyber_Rock> ok
20130720 12:27:42< shadowm> And when you said you have "many" add-ons installed, I assume that's a reasonable number of add-ons? Say, less than 50 and not more than 200?
20130720 12:30:32< Cyber_Rock> <Cyber_Rock> all in all there are 29 add-ons including all era, map sets, campaigns, scenarios and all
20130720 12:31:10< Cyber_Rock> shadowm, ok, even after I moved the add-ons the missing ones were not showing
20130720 12:31:46< Cyber_Rock> then I installed the missing one from the add-ons server which can be accessed from ingame
20130720 12:32:34< Cyber_Rock> that single add-on appeared then I moved all the add-ons back to their original place, now only the one I downloaded is being displayed, others are not shown
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20130720 12:33:56< Cyber_Rock_> <Cyber_Rock> all in all there are 29 add-ons including all era, map sets, campaigns, scenarios and all
20130720 12:34:02< Cyber_Rock_> shadowm, ok, even after I moved the add-ons the missing ones were not showing
20130720 12:34:08< Cyber_Rock_> then I installed the missing one from the add-ons server which can be accessed from ingame
20130720 12:34:11< Cyber_Rock_> that single add-on appeared then I moved all the add-ons back to their original place, now only the one I downloaded is being displayed, others are not shown
20130720 12:34:43< Cyber_Rock_> shadowm, I already said there were 29 add-ons even before you asked :)
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20130720 12:38:50< Cyber_Rock_> now, I will have to download all those add-ons once more :(
20130720 12:39:17< Cyber_Rock_> shadowm, what option do I have?
20130720 12:40:17< shadowm> Didn't you just move them to a different dir?
20130720 12:41:32< Cyber_Rock_> yes
20130720 12:41:37< Cyber_Rock_> and now I moved them back
20130720 12:41:47< Cyber_Rock_> and they are not being displayed in-game
20130720 12:41:57< Cyber_Rock_> neither the maps nor the era
20130720 12:42:05< Cyber_Rock_> not even the sp campaign
20130720 12:42:52< shadowm> Are you looking at the correct directory for add-ons?
20130720 12:42:56< Cyber_Rock_> yes
20130720 12:43:11< shadowm> That'd be C:/Users/lenovoi/Documents/My Games/Wesnoth1.10\data\add-ons in your case.
20130720 12:43:23< shadowm> And in case it isn't obvious, you do need to restart Wesnoth for that kind of change to take effect.
20130720 12:43:55< Cyber_Rock_> yes
20130720 12:43:57< Cyber_Rock_> I did that
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20130720 12:44:21< Cyber_Rock_> after every test, I restart wesnoth
20130720 12:45:03< shadowm> You could try deleting C:/Users/lenovoi/Documents/My Games/Wesnoth1.10/cache, but I'd be more inclined to think you restored your add-ons in the wrong location.
20130720 12:45:11< shadowm> *to the wrong location.
20130720 12:45:29< Cyber_Rock_> C:\Users\lenovoi\Documents\My Games\Wesnoth1.10\data\add-ons
20130720 12:45:57< shadowm> Also, you _are_ running Wesnoth using the shortcut as usual, right?
20130720 12:46:04< Cyber_Rock_> yes
20130720 12:46:23< Cyber_Rock_> shortcut has the config file as an argument
20130720 12:46:32< Cyber_Rock_> I mean preference
20130720 12:47:03< Cyber_Rock_> config-dir
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20130720 12:49:29< Cyber_Rock_> I really have low bandwidth, plus the amount of data-transfer is also very limited
20130720 12:51:20< fabi__> Any news in the log file?
20130720 12:51:38< shadowm> The most help I could possibly provide is redundant questions to ensure you actually did restore your add-ons correctly.
20130720 12:52:41< Cyber_Rock_> fabi__, no news
20130720 12:52:47< Cyber_Rock_> fabi__, no error
20130720 12:54:24< Cyber_Rock_> shadowm, yes I did restore my add-ons correctly, I just moved them back to their original position. In whole, I moved them away and then I moved them back. The problem is, when I moved them back, they vanished completely from in-game (they are still presend in add-ons directory)
20130720 13:01:54< Cyber_Rock_> it worked
20130720 13:02:09< Cyber_Rock_> shadowm, why weren't you sure
20130720 13:02:20< shadowm> Why wasn't I sure about what?
20130720 13:02:43< Cyber_Rock_> <shadowm> You could try deleting C:/Users/lenovoi/Documents/My Games/Wesnoth1.10/cache, *****but I'd be more inclined to think you restored your add-ons in the wrong location*****.
20130720 13:02:53< Cyber_Rock_> shadowm, it was the cache all along
20130720 13:03:24< shadowm> Because it's been a long time since I last heard of caching misbehavior in Wesnoth.
20130720 13:03:30< Cyber_Rock_> for 15 minutes I tried everything, checking and double checking every step I made
20130720 13:03:36< Cyber_Rock_> and then it was cache
20130720 13:04:02< Cyber_Rock_> shadowm, if you have a forum id, then you should post some parts of this conversation, it might help someone in future
20130720 13:04:45< Cyber_Rock_> The old cache is gone and so is the problem
20130720 13:05:18< shadowm> I think the developers would prefer a bug report to look at. So if I understand correctly, the missing maps were also caused by the stale cache?
20130720 13:05:21< Cyber_Rock_> Now, not only can I see my old add-ons (the were already being displayed), I can also see the maps that had gone missing
20130720 13:05:37< Cyber_Rock_> shadowm, yes
20130720 13:05:42< Cyber_Rock_> I can see them now
20130720 13:06:29< Cyber_Rock_> shadowm, fabi__ thank to both of you
20130720 13:06:40< shadowm> Hm, you mentioned that the editor\maps directory already existed and was set to read-only? Are there more objects in your configuration directory set to read-only too?
20130720 13:06:45< fabi__> :-)
20130720 13:07:06< shadowm> Just making sure the stale cache wasn't actually a result of Wesnoth being unable to write to it.
20130720 13:08:10< Cyber_Rock_> no
20130720 13:08:24< Cyber_Rock_> they are just read only for other users of the computer
20130720 13:08:34< Cyber_Rock_> My user can write to them just fine
20130720 13:08:50< Cyber_Rock_> same is the case with editor/maps
20130720 13:09:20< Cyber_Rock_> now I see that
20130720 13:10:03< Cyber_Rock_> shadowm, the cache is now filled again
20130720 13:10:17< Cyber_Rock_> shadowm, so that means that wesnoth can write into it
20130720 13:11:15< Cyber_Rock_> I am using version 1.10.6
20130720 13:13:59< Cyber_Rock_> bye
20130720 13:14:04< Cyber_Rock_> and thank you once again
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20130720 13:14:56< shadowm> Should've mentioned that F5 is a suitable replacement to manual cache deletion unless Wesnoth is more broken on Windows than I thought.
20130720 13:15:08< shadowm> F5 as in the keyboard key, on the titlescreen.
20130720 13:15:59< fabi__> I still suspect something wrong with his filesystem.
20130720 13:16:28< fabi__> The editor's map directory should not cause this kind of error if just empty.
20130720 13:16:50< shadowm> I doubt the editor maps dir had anything to do with anything.
20130720 13:17:20< fabi__> Not necessarily. It is just a hint that more right stuff might be broken.
20130720 13:18:13< shadowm> The MP create screen literally just calls get_files_in_dir() to ask for a list of files in editor/maps and then pushes copies of the gathered list onto the listbox contents source.
20130720 13:18:23< fabi__> indeed
20130720 13:18:43< shadowm> So there is no way that could interfere with anything.
20130720 13:19:24< fabi__> That is not the point.
20130720 13:19:47< fabi__> At least parts of his directory can't be accessed by Wesnoth.
20130720 13:20:59< shadowm> 20130720 15:40:30 error filesystem: Could not open 'C:/Users/lenovoi/Documents/My Games/Wesnoth1.10/editor/maps/' for reading.
20130720 13:21:15< shadowm> Only code that generates that message in 1.10 is istream_file(), which is _not_ to be used on a directory path.
20130720 13:22:11< shadowm> So perhaps there is something trying to read editor/maps/<invisible character that didn't make it to the paste here>, or get_files_in_dir() is returning a list containing just the empty string.
20130720 13:26:05< fabi__> I can't reproduce the problem on my linux environment.
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