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20130721 13:44:30< Grognor> morning, fellas.
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20130721 13:49:05< Grognor> how tolerant are the locals of Obvious Newbie Questions?
20130721 13:54:45< Grognor> (on the principle of 'never ask to ask, just ask'...) for example, I just crushed a friend of mine in a game. I was drakes, he was undead. I told him he didn't summon any ghouls and that this was a mistake, but he said according to the wiki it's not a mistake. so I consult you people
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20130721 14:20:58< zookeeper> Grognor, i'm not a MP expert, but i'd think that both adepts and ghouls are pretty important.
20130721 14:21:20< zookeeper> and yes, obvious newbie questions are fine.
20130721 14:22:01< Grognor> seems to me adepts rank as 'essential' against drakes because they take hyperdamage from cold
20130721 14:22:54< zookeeper> yep
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20130721 14:45:34< Laela> clear
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20130721 15:19:14< Gambit> Guess who was too asinine to salt the passwords in their forum database?
20130721 15:19:25< Gambit> Ubuntu. http://www.zdnet.com/ubuntu-forums-hacked-1-82m-logins-email-addresses-stolen-7000018336/
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20130721 15:31:07< Grognor> what a lousy bunch! I'm sure you would not have made the same mistake
20130721 15:38:54< Gambit> Darn right.
20130721 15:39:10< Gambit> First thing I did at work.
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20130721 15:42:33< Grognor> now that we've been properly introduced, perhaps you should teach me some less obvious basics of MP strategy
20130721 15:42:54< Gambit> You don't want lessons from me on how to play Wesnoth. :P
20130721 15:43:14< Grognor> are you sure
20130721 15:43:38< Grognor> you've already displayed an aversion to obvious mistakes and you're named after a chess term
20130721 15:43:52< Gambit> And yet... surprisingly bad at Wesnoth.
20130721 15:44:08< Grognor> that's pretty good evidence of high-quality tactical teachin' skills
20130721 15:44:22< Grognor> eh a no's a no
20130721 15:44:31< Gambit> Um... so dwarves are a pain in the butt because of their high defense, so you should use magical attacks on them.
20130721 15:44:42< Gambit> And also woses don't like fire.
20130721 15:45:30< Gambit> If you use an ulfserker to attack something with no melee attack, he does a funny laugh.
20130721 15:45:58< Gambit> And that's pretty much everything you need to know. Congratulations.
20130721 15:46:21< Grognor> I already knew those things
20130721 15:48:52< Grognor> something I don't know about dwarves is what they're supposed to do against ghosts
20130721 15:53:05< Grognor> thunderers? ulfserkers during the daytime? ijdk
20130721 15:57:09< trewe> Grognor, dont forget the outlaws
20130721 15:57:18< Soliton> also footpads, poachers, maybe thiefs.
20130721 15:57:22< Grognor> well, they don't fare much better
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20130721 16:02:01< Grognor> footpads are pretty good against undead I guess because skeletons? I don't see what they have on ghosts though, aside from being able to zone them out + retaliate
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20130721 16:23:27< vultraz> bumbadadabum: 
20130721 16:23:40< bumbadadabum> what?
20130721 16:23:49< vultraz> ^
20130721 16:24:03< bumbadadabum> "[16:22] <bumbadadabum> what?" ?
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20130721 16:24:21< vultraz> invite dugi to somedutchguy >_>
20130721 16:27:00< bumbadadabum> vultraz: DON'T MENTION IT HERE
20130721 16:27:18< vultraz> nice, you're compounding it by making it look secret
20130721 16:27:33< Gambit> Oh bumbadadabum are you embarrassed by your little hangout?
20130721 16:27:50< Gambit> Are you afraid you'd look bad if certain people were to idle in it?
20130721 16:28:04< bumbadadabum> no
20130721 16:29:24< vultraz> bumbadadabum: YOU'RE the one who wanted to talk to Dugi___ so talk to him
20130721 16:29:49< Dugi___> What's the problem, guys?
20130721 16:31:08< bumbadadabum> vultraz is
20130721 16:31:19< vultraz> bumbadadabum is
20130721 16:31:27< lipkab> Gambit is
20130721 16:32:41< Grognor> grognor am
20130721 16:33:09< janebot> Donkey!
20130721 16:33:25< lipkab> ...but janebot isn't!
20130721 16:33:31< lipkab> She's a lie.
20130721 16:34:01< celticminstrel> Oh huh, there's a dugi.
20130721 16:34:07< celticminstrel> Interesting.
20130721 16:34:37< Grognor> wow, this channel isn't even registered
20130721 16:34:47< bumbadadabum> it is
20130721 16:34:53< Grognor> +t isn't on, so any hooligan could come in and vandalize the topic
20130721 16:35:04< vultraz> huh
20130721 16:35:06-!- bumbadadabum changed the topic of #wesnoth to: Wesnoth User Channel | http://www.wesnoth.org/ | Latest stable version: 1.10.6 | Latest development version: 1.11.5 | Public IRC logs: http://irclogs.wesnoth.org | Don't paste on IRC! Use a pastebin: http://pastebin.com | http://imagebin.org wat
20130721 16:35:11< Grognor> oh whoops I sent that query to nickserv rather than chanserv
20130721 16:35:16< bumbadadabum> 0_0
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20130721 16:35:20< celticminstrel> Oh yeah.
20130721 16:36:20< celticminstrel> I remember discovering that before.
20130721 16:36:58< Grognor> of course the channel is registered, silly me. but +t actually isn't on! makes me wonder, are wesnoth players really just so considerate, intelligent, and self-secure as to get no joy in vandalism?
20130721 16:37:03< Grognor> if so, good job, everyone! carry on
20130721 16:37:25< bumbadadabum> I mostly wonder what the point would be
20130721 16:37:44< Gambit> Sometimes responsible people update it with information about service outages.
20130721 16:37:48< Grognor> well it would be like wikipedia vandalism. no point, but teenagers and the like get a kick out of it
20130721 16:41:23< Grognor> I gather that you're a big name round these parts, bumbadadabum
20130721 16:41:33< bumbadadabum> From who?
20130721 16:41:46< zookeeper> Grognor, poachers at night are decent at whittling down ghosts, i suppose. a thief backstab might do a fair amount of damage if you dare to risk it.
20130721 16:43:06< Grognor> I honestly wouldn't know what to do if I was knalgan against undead and the other person summoned nothing but ghosts and maybe a ghoul or two just to annoy me. chalk it up to inexperience and ignorance, but I still wouldn't know what to do.
20130721 16:43:59< Grognor> bumbadadabum: the official wesnoth twitter account follows you. I have Basic in Skill (Internet Sleuth)
20130721 16:44:24< Gambit> bumbadadabum is on the translation team
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20130721 16:45:11< Grognor> bumbadadabum: regarding what Gambit just said, I hope you've read Le Ton Beau de Marot
20130721 16:45:29< bumbadadabum> Why?
20130721 16:45:47< Grognor> it's a book about translation, among other topics
20130721 16:47:03< Gambit> By the way, if anyone else in here does stuff for Wesnoth and is on twitter, let me know.
20130721 16:47:12< Gambit> It's been a while since I asked.
20130721 16:47:17< Grognor> I play it and I'm on twitter
20130721 16:47:26< Gambit> More than playing it :P
20130721 16:47:32< Grognor> that was a bad joke I'm so sorry
20130721 16:49:56< trewe> well, ocasionally I use twitter
20130721 16:50:25< Grognor> a few days ago I woke up thinking about wesnoth and it took me several minutes to remember that other things in the world, such as my watch, existed
20130721 16:50:42< Grognor> call it a conflagration of monomania
20130721 16:51:14< mcwise> Grognor, ok I will call it that
20130721 16:53:03< Grognor> kracko.
20130721 16:54:01< mcwise> I am confused.
20130721 16:54:27< Grognor> I try to use "kracko" as an intjerjection; I haven't decided/discovered what it means yet, aside from being a common boss in Kirby games
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20130721 16:58:50< mcwise> d'accord
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20130721 17:03:12< Grognor> am I right in surmising that wesnoth is very comfortable at its current level of popularity
20130721 17:04:57< mcwise> probably
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20130721 17:31:21< zookeeper> Grognor, i don't think there's really any attempts to advertise wesnoth in hopes of gaining more popularity, so i guess so.
20130721 17:31:39< zookeeper> more would (likely) be better, but that's kinda obvious.
20130721 17:32:18< Grognor> because humans are not automatically strategic, you cannot infer a lack of desire for X from observed lack of planning and action (and skullduggery) to obtain X
20130721 17:32:22< Grognor> reliably
20130721 17:33:19< mcwise> well in your original question, who did you mean by "wesnoth"?
20130721 17:33:31< mcwise> it can mean many things
20130721 17:33:34< Grognor> not sure
20130721 17:34:02< Grognor> maybe the devs, maybe the players, maybe both, maybe some group I haven't thought of. it was deliberately equivocal
20130721 17:34:44< mcwise> well I for one think wesnoth is pretty popular already
20130721 17:34:51< mcwise> and it's a good thing
20130721 17:34:57< blarumyrran_> But what do the PEOPLE of Wesnoth think? Has anyone asked for their opinion in deciding their fate?
20130721 17:35:53< mcwise> I only let them conquer villages and kingdoms blarumyrran_ I don't ask for their opinion really
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20130721 17:36:31< Grognor> I guess what I'd want is for it to have been more popular 9 years ago so there'd be lots of really hardcore pros nowadays, igniting spectacular duels and cultivating a culture of excellence and arete
20130721 17:36:55< mcwise> well you can't change the past, I guess
20130721 17:37:03< Grognor> but as the saying goes, while it's never too late for something to should have happened, it can easily be too late for something to have happened
20130721 17:37:35< Grognor> on the other hand, maybe five years from now I can spearhead the "highly visible excellence" trend. haw.
20130721 17:38:09< mcwise> what do you mean by that?
20130721 17:38:18< Grognor> by what
20130721 17:38:31< mcwise> by your last message
20130721 17:38:53< mcwise> you mean you will be a pro in 5 years?
20130721 17:39:08< Grognor> "maybe". (probably not)
20130721 17:39:42< mcwise> well I'm bored
20130721 17:39:48< mcwise> anyone want to have a quick 1on1
20130721 17:39:50< Grognor> I mean, do people livestream this game? or is that considered pointless because replays
20130721 17:40:03< mcwise> I never saw this game being livestreamed
20130721 17:40:21< mcwise> I think it's not really made for being livestreamed, is it?
20130721 17:40:29< Grognor> I guess not
20130721 17:40:41< mcwise> http://www.twitch.tv/search?query=wesnoth#stq=wesnoth&stp=1
20130721 17:40:49< Grognor> it was made before livestream was a thing
20130721 17:41:00< blarumyrran_> :D that's not much of a reason
20130721 17:41:06< mcwise> well that's not what I meant
20130721 17:41:14< mcwise> I meant, it's not really fitting to be livestreamed
20130721 17:41:37< mcwise> but I saw chess being streamed as well
20130721 17:41:37< Grognor> I know what you meant; I was postulating an explanation for why that is
20130721 17:43:01< Grognor> I'll 1v1 you if you promise not to make fun of me for being bad
20130721 17:43:13< mcwise> I promise it
20130721 17:43:35< mcwise> can you host the match? I don't feel able to
20130721 17:44:51< Grognor> no time limit okay?
20130721 17:45:06< mcwise> sure
20130721 17:45:07< mcwise> I have time now
20130721 17:45:12< mcwise> on this beautiful sunday
20130721 17:45:49< Grognor> password is normativity
20130721 17:46:11< mcwise> what's it supposed to mean?
20130721 17:46:57< shadowm> Games in the MP lobby can be password-protected.
20130721 17:47:23< shadowm> That allows limiting who can join the game without disabling observers completely.
20130721 17:47:41< mcwise> Yeah I was more talking about the password itself
20130721 17:47:48< mcwise> I noticed Grognor using quite advanced words
20130721 17:47:59< mcwise> I had to use the dictionary for each of his messages hehe
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20130721 20:03:17< mcwise> Grognor, I'm not sure as well, I just noticed I got your 2 urfserkers pretty easy, because they stood on a bad terrain
20130721 20:03:33< Grognor> people who actually play this game are much harder to defeat than my friends
20130721 20:03:35< celticminstrel> ulf
20130721 20:03:50< Grognor> one of my ulfs was standing on bad terrain because he had to be standing on bad terrain to kill your adept
20130721 20:03:57< mcwise> ah yeah I remember
20130721 20:04:01< Grognor> the other one was on bad terrain because I didn't expect the thief to get instagibbed
20130721 20:04:05< celticminstrel> Not urf. >_>
20130721 20:04:09< mcwise> thanks celticminstrel 
20130721 20:04:31< Grognor> I didn't realize they could die to a single adept blast
20130721 20:04:32< mcwise> I didn't as well
20130721 20:04:34< mcwise> I figured, I had to go offensive now or never
20130721 20:04:42< mcwise> and just threw everything on you
20130721 20:04:56< mcwise> oh, another thing
20130721 20:05:03< mcwise> I noticed you had more than 7 units pretty early
20130721 20:05:14< mcwise> remember that it will decrease your income then
20130721 20:05:20< Grognor> I don't react well to losing, by the way. this is me being much calmer than I would be normally
20130721 20:05:38< Grognor> okay. that's a good point. I will keep that in mind
20130721 20:05:43< mcwise> I had 7 units pretty long and figured I can stall it out and overwhelm you later with more money/units
20130721 20:05:54< Grognor> well, you were right
20130721 20:06:06< mcwise> (also my bats as level 0, don't contribute to that limit, so I had them as a fast spy)
20130721 20:06:30< mcwise> hm other than that you might analyse the replay, but honestly I was very lucky as well
20130721 20:06:31< Grognor> I figured *I* would stall and use the natural dwarven inclination to defense as a springboard for crushing you, but that doesn't work ... at night ... against undead
20130721 20:07:02< Grognor> you made two easily avoidable mistakes
20130721 20:07:14< mcwise> that adept one
20130721 20:07:17< mcwise> and the other?
20130721 20:07:22< Grognor> failing to move that bat that one time
20130721 20:07:28< Grognor> which would have been much worse if not for the hilarious RNG
20130721 20:07:34< Grognor> for you, I mean.
20130721 20:07:39< mcwise> well I didn't expect an attack
20130721 20:07:48< mcwise> and I wanted to observe the field with it
20130721 20:08:40< mcwise> I played as letting a unit die is not a big deal, but it might be otherwise
20130721 20:09:11< mcwise> lol that match took us like 2 hours
20130721 20:09:15< Grognor> I really hate high-variance units like bats
20130721 20:09:35< Grognor> I mean, I love bats, but I wish you could predict whether they'll die in any given turn
20130721 20:10:04< Grognor> um
20130721 20:10:07< Grognor> how about a rematch
20130721 20:10:13< mcwise> generally yes, but not today
20130721 20:10:21< mcwise> or, not now, atleast
20130721 20:10:25< Grognor> you mean I don't get to redeem myself!?
20130721 20:10:57< mcwise> well I don't have the nerve to play a 2 hour game now again
20130721 20:11:08< mcwise> it's challenging and needs focus
20130721 20:11:11< Grognor> well, I've been awake for, let's see...
20130721 20:11:13< mcwise> and I'm not focused at the moment
20130721 20:11:20< Grognor> you know, I can't remember when I woke up, except that it was yesterday
20130721 20:11:38< mcwise> oh
20130721 20:11:40< mcwise> don't say that
20130721 20:11:45< mcwise> it makes my victory less valuable
20130721 20:11:49< Grognor> hey, this is how heroes are made! how do you think they got that superhuman endurance?
20130721 20:12:09< mcwise> because they are... superhuman?
20130721 20:12:11< Grognor> I always stay awake for ridiculous lengths of time, and then sleep for equally ridiculous lengths of time
20130721 20:12:44< mcwise> I only sleep for ridiculous lengths of time...
20130721 20:12:45< Grognor> "being superhuman" doesn't actually explain anything, comrade. it's training that strengthens the will to persevere!
20130721 20:13:10< Grognor> bah, how could you understand true manliness... you didn't even summon any ghouls or zombies...
20130721 20:13:27< mcwise> haha
20130721 20:13:45< mcwise> I like to have skeletons controlling the map
20130721 20:14:24< Grognor> I hope you don't do that against drakes
20130721 20:14:29< mcwise> and behind that skeleton line something with huge damage, in this case dark adepts as they are really good versus dwarves
20130721 20:14:39< mcwise> I don't really know the drake race
20130721 20:14:40< blarumyrran_> many years ago skeletons used to be very important, but now ghouls are more important
20130721 20:14:42< Grognor> dark adepts are good versus everything
20130721 20:15:15< mcwise> well I could use ghouls instead of one of the adepts as well
20130721 20:15:19< mcwise> but ghouls need a strong frontline as well
20130721 20:15:28< mcwise> or, I like to play it like this at least
20130721 20:15:38< Grognor> the purpose of ghouls seems to be poisoning the enemy during the daytime to delay engagement until night
20130721 20:15:45< Grognor> that's why they have the fearless trait, ne?
20130721 20:16:00< mcwise> woah seems like an advanced strategy
20130721 20:16:03< blarumyrran_> ghouls take up damage and they are painful to attack in melee
20130721 20:16:15< Grognor> that too, they are the closest the undead have to a tank
20130721 20:16:17< mcwise> I was only going so far as "poison enemy to force them to heal up in villages"
20130721 20:16:24< blarumyrran_> and they are resistant to fiery ranged attacks
20130721 20:16:30< blarumyrran_> unlike skeletons
20130721 20:16:40< blarumyrran_> so they make excellent meatshields both ways
20130721 20:16:46< mcwise> so ghouls have better resistances versus a thunderdwarf as well?
20130721 20:16:59< blarumyrran_> no, that's pierce damage
20130721 20:17:01< Grognor> they don't have better pierce resist than skeletons but they do have good pierce resist
20130721 20:17:28< mcwise> well still I will try to use them next times
20130721 20:17:46< Grognor> I might be alone in this but I also really really like zombies
20130721 20:17:49< mcwise> as you see Grognor I don't have much game knowledge :P I just recently played one or two campaigns
20130721 20:17:55< Grognor> they are so cool
20130721 20:18:13< mcwise> yes I like them too, but I want to win. I can play with units I like in campaings or such
20130721 20:18:28< Grognor> they're comeback units
20130721 20:18:47< Grognor> if you're losing you can pull off a zombification and turn the tides
20130721 20:19:21< Grognor> undead is my favorite faction, did I mention
20130721 20:19:40< mcwise> no, you didn't
20130721 20:19:50< mcwise> I feel most comfortable with them as well, that's why I picked them
20130721 20:20:38< Grognor> ghouls are especially effective against dwarves because they are slow and therefore it takes them a long time to get to villages. or so I hear
20130721 20:21:40< mcwise> yep, makes sense
20130721 20:24:51< Grognor> I think I've been awake for 25 hours
20130721 20:25:16< mcwise> so you should go to sleep soon I guess
20130721 20:25:33< Grognor> I refuse
20130721 20:26:45< celticminstrel> Do it.
20130721 20:27:24< Grognor> no!
20130721 20:28:37< Grognor> Ore wo dare da to omotte yagaru?!
20130721 20:28:59< celticminstrel> I don't understand Japanese...
20130721 20:29:38< Grognor> neither do I. I copy-pasted that from TVTropes. supposedly it means "Who the Hell do you think I am?!"
20130721 20:30:03< celticminstrel> I think you're Grognor!
20130721 20:32:18< Grognor> that's right! retired dread pirate captain Grognor, assistant to the Assailer of the Hidden Walls, minstrel of war and diluted rum, and Broken Cog: that's me, straight outta the deep blue sky! You cannot hold even a birthday candle to the blazing flame of my winning spirit!
20130721 20:32:55< mcwise> You should really get some rest... :P
20130721 20:32:59< celticminstrel> XD
20130721 20:33:14< celticminstrel> Why are you the minstrel? I'm supposed to be the minstrel.
20130721 20:33:15< Grognor> which goes to show one inviolable truth on which all others must rest lest paradox breach the seams between the Real and the Sublime: that I go to sleep whenever the damn well Hell I feel like it!
20130721 20:33:31< celticminstrel> Yeah yeah, whatever.
20130721 20:33:34< blarumyrran_> One only has to stay awake for 26 hours, to ascend to transcendence! If that doesn't work, wait a few more hours
20130721 20:34:06< Grognor> oh please, this is nothing. I regularly stay awake for 60 hours at a time, only to sleep for 25 afterward
20130721 20:34:19< Grognor> also, I'm homeless and it's *really* hot in my car right now
20130721 20:34:42< mcwise> you're homeless and connected to the net?
20130721 20:35:06< celticminstrel> Smartphone/laptop.
20130721 20:35:07< mcwise> did someone let his wifi be open again
20130721 20:35:28< Grognor> you can /whois me to see that my wifi is from starbucks right now
20130721 20:35:58< celticminstrel> How does that mean Starbucks?
20130721 20:36:17< mcwise> [Grognor] (~Kraken@ip-64-134-223-212.public.wayport.net): epistemic perdition
20130721 20:36:17< mcwise> wat
20130721 20:36:31< Grognor> it's right there, public.wayport.net
20130721 20:36:54< celticminstrel> Yeah, I had no idea that meant Starbucks.
20130721 20:37:20< Grognor> if you actually go to wayport.net in your browser, it takes you to AT&T, which is the ISP for starbucks hotspots
20130721 20:37:47< Grognor> come on, fellas, this is obvious
20130721 20:37:52< blarumyrran_> ... it's the isp for a ton of stuff
20130721 20:38:13< Grognor> well, you know what they say
20130721 20:38:13< blarumyrran_> ah you were kidding
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20130721 21:15:29< Grognor> if I don't go to sleep soon I will probably die, so goodbye, nice meeting everyone
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